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From: "Wang, Yipeng1" <yipeng1.wang@intel.com>
To: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Cc: "vincent.jardin@6wind.com" <vincent.jardin@6wind.com>,
	"Richardson, Bruce" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	"Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>,
	"thomas@monjalon.net" <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"Tai, Charlie" <charlie.tai@intel.com>,
	"Gobriel, Sameh" <sameh.gobriel@intel.com>,
	"Wang, Ren" <ren.wang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/7] Add Membership Library
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 02:58:51 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D2C4A16CA39F7F4E8E384D204491D7A64453D73D@ORSMSX105.amr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170821210132.5dd74b10@xeon-e3>

Hi Stephen,

Thanks for the comments. We will remove the needless return initialization in next version.

For the unified API concern, we think the current implementation has two benefits: 1. It is easier to extend the library
with new types of filters without adding a lot of top level APIs every time. 2. When users switch between different
types in their application, they do not need to switch between function calls. They can reuse same code for
different types. 

However, we agree with you that a switch case in the library affects the performance. We
did a quick test and here is the results (cycles/operation):
                          lookup    lookup_bulk(16 batch)     lookup_multi    lookup_multi_bulk
switch_case         50             36                                          57                    45
direct call              47            35                                           54                    45

There will be 3 cycle difference for non-bulk version lookup. I guess if users usually use bulk version, it maybe not
a big concern, but single key lookup indeed slower. If you think the benefit we mentioned does not outweigh the
performance slowdown, we would like to make the change.

We also considered using function pointers to get rid of switch case, but it will be unfriendly to the multi-process usages. 

Please comments.

Thanks
Yipeng

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Hemminger [mailto:stephen@networkplumber.org]
> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 9:02 PM
> To: Wang, Yipeng1 <yipeng1.wang@intel.com>
> Cc: vincent.jardin@6wind.com; Richardson, Bruce
> <bruce.richardson@intel.com>; Ananyev, Konstantin
> <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>; thomas@monjalon.net; dev@dpdk.org; Tai,
> Charlie <charlie.tai@intel.com>; Gobriel, Sameh <sameh.gobriel@intel.com>;
> Wang, Ren <ren.wang@intel.com>
> Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] Add Membership Library
> 
> On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 17:19:46 -0700
> Yipeng Wang <yipeng1.wang@intel.com> wrote:
> 
> > This patch set implements two types of set-summaries, i.e., hash-table
> > based set-summary (HTSS) and Vector Bloom Filter (vBF). HTSS supports
> > both the non-cache and cache modes. The non-cache mode can incur a
> > small chance of false-positives which is the case when the set-summary
> > indicates a key belongs to a given set while actually it is not. The
> > cache mode can also have false-negatives in addition to
> > false-positives. False-negatives means the case when the set-summary
> > indicates a key does not belong to a given set while actually it does.
> > This happens because cache mode allows new key to evict existing keys. vBF
> only has false-positives similar to the non-cache HTSS.
> > However, one can set the false-positive rate arbitrarily. HTSS's
> > false-positive rate is determined by the hash-table size and the signature size.
> 
> I don't think it makes sense to merge two different types  of  tables in one API.
> Especially in DPDK where every cycle counts. You are taking an extra branch on
> each lookup. The user of this API is likely to know exactly what type of objects
> and look are desired.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-23  2:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-22  0:19 Yipeng Wang
2017-08-22  0:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/7] member: implement main API Yipeng Wang
2017-08-22  3:59   ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-08-22 10:02   ` Luca Boccassi
2017-08-24  9:35     ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-08-24  9:55       ` Luca Boccassi
2017-08-24 10:32         ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-09-02 12:55           ` Luca Boccassi
2017-09-02 23:49             ` Luca Boccassi
2017-08-24 18:38     ` Wang, Yipeng1
2017-09-02 12:54       ` Luca Boccassi
2017-08-22  0:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/7] member: implement HT mode Yipeng Wang
2017-08-22  0:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/7] member: implement vBF mode Yipeng Wang
2017-08-22  0:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/7] member: add AVX for HT mode Yipeng Wang
2017-08-22  0:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 5/7] member: enable the library Yipeng Wang
2017-08-22  0:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 6/7] test/member: add functional and perf tests Yipeng Wang
2017-08-22  0:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 7/7] doc: add membership documentation Yipeng Wang
2017-08-22  4:01 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/7] Add Membership Library Stephen Hemminger
2017-08-23  2:58   ` Wang, Yipeng1 [this message]
2017-09-02  1:24 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 " Yipeng Wang
2017-09-02  1:24   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/7] member: implement main API Yipeng Wang
2017-09-02  1:24   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/7] member: implement HT mode Yipeng Wang
2017-09-02  1:24   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/7] member: implement vBF mode Yipeng Wang
2017-09-02  1:24   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 4/7] member: add AVX for HT mode Yipeng Wang
2017-09-02  1:24   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 5/7] member: enable the library Yipeng Wang
2017-09-02  1:24   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 6/7] test/member: add functional and perf tests Yipeng Wang
2017-09-02  1:24   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 7/7] doc: add membership documentation Yipeng Wang
2017-09-04 13:19     ` Mcnamara, John
2017-09-05 23:59   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/7] Add Membership Library Yipeng Wang
2017-09-05 23:59     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/7] member: implement main API Yipeng Wang
2017-09-22 10:47       ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-25 14:15       ` De Lara Guarch, Pablo
2017-09-05 23:59     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/7] member: implement HT mode Yipeng Wang
2017-09-05 23:59     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/7] member: implement vBF mode Yipeng Wang
2017-09-05 23:59     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 4/7] member: add AVX for HT mode Yipeng Wang
2017-09-05 23:59     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 5/7] member: enable the library Yipeng Wang
2017-09-22 10:48       ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-05 23:59     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 6/7] test/member: add functional and perf tests Yipeng Wang
2017-09-05 23:59     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 7/7] doc: add membership documentation Yipeng Wang
2017-09-18 18:42       ` Mcnamara, John
2017-09-25 12:30       ` De Lara Guarch, Pablo
2017-09-27 17:40     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/7] Add Membership Library Yipeng Wang
2017-09-27 17:40       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/7] member: implement main API Yipeng Wang
2017-10-02 10:04         ` De Lara Guarch, Pablo
2017-09-27 17:40       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/7] member: implement HT mode Yipeng Wang
2017-10-02 13:30         ` De Lara Guarch, Pablo
2017-10-03  1:18           ` Wang, Yipeng1
2017-09-27 17:40       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/7] member: implement vBF mode Yipeng Wang
2017-10-02 15:44         ` De Lara Guarch, Pablo
2017-10-03  1:24           ` Wang, Yipeng1
2017-09-27 17:40       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 4/7] member: add AVX for HT mode Yipeng Wang
2017-09-27 17:40       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 5/7] member: enable the library Yipeng Wang
2017-10-02 15:47         ` De Lara Guarch, Pablo
2017-09-27 17:40       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 6/7] test/member: add functional and perf tests Yipeng Wang
2017-10-02 16:20         ` De Lara Guarch, Pablo
2017-09-27 17:40       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 7/7] doc: add membership documentation Yipeng Wang
2017-10-03  4:31       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/7] Add Membership Library Yipeng Wang
2017-10-03  4:31         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/7] member: implement main API Yipeng Wang
2017-10-03  8:42           ` De Lara Guarch, Pablo
2017-10-03  4:31         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/7] member: implement HT mode Yipeng Wang
2017-10-03  8:47           ` De Lara Guarch, Pablo
2017-10-03  4:31         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/7] member: implement vBF mode Yipeng Wang
2017-10-03  8:50           ` De Lara Guarch, Pablo
2017-10-03  4:31         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 4/7] member: add AVX for HT mode Yipeng Wang
2017-10-03  9:01           ` De Lara Guarch, Pablo
2017-10-03  4:31         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 5/7] member: enable the library Yipeng Wang
2017-10-03  9:04           ` De Lara Guarch, Pablo
2017-10-03  4:31         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 6/7] test/member: add functional and perf tests Yipeng Wang
2017-10-03  9:07           ` De Lara Guarch, Pablo
2017-10-03  4:31         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 7/7] doc: add membership documentation Yipeng Wang
2017-10-03  9:08           ` De Lara Guarch, Pablo
2017-10-04  3:12         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/7] Add Membership Library Yipeng Wang
2017-10-04  3:12           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/7] member: implement main API Yipeng Wang
2017-10-04  3:12           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 2/7] member: implement HT mode Yipeng Wang
2017-10-04  3:12           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 3/7] member: implement vBF mode Yipeng Wang
2017-10-04  3:12           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 4/7] member: add AVX for HT mode Yipeng Wang
2017-10-04  3:12           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 5/7] member: enable the library Yipeng Wang
2017-10-04  3:12           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 6/7] test/member: add functional and perf tests Yipeng Wang
2017-10-04  3:12           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 7/7] doc: add membership documentation Yipeng Wang
2017-10-04 13:44             ` Mcnamara, John
2017-10-08 22:14           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/7] Add Membership Library Thomas Monjalon

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