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From: "Wang, Yipeng1" <yipeng1.wang@intel.com>
To: Honnappa Nagarahalli <honnappa.nagarahalli@arm.com>,
	"Richardson, Bruce" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	"De Lara Guarch, Pablo" <pablo.de.lara.guarch@intel.com>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"honnappa.nagarahalli@dpdk.org" <honnappa.nagarahalli@dpdk.org>,
	"gavin.hu@arm.com" <gavin.hu@arm.com>,
	"steve.capper@arm.com" <steve.capper@arm.com>,
	"ola.liljedahl@arm.com" <ola.liljedahl@arm.com>,
	"nd@arm.com" <nd@arm.com>,
	"Gobriel, Sameh" <sameh.gobriel@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/4] Address reader-writer concurrency in rte_hash
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 23:45:31 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D2C4A16CA39F7F4E8E384D204491D7A6614D7F25@FMSMSX151.amr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1536253938-192391-1-git-send-email-honnappa.nagarahalli@arm.com>

Hi Honnappa,

Reply inlined:

>-----Original Message-----
>
>    Currently, reader-writer concurrency problems in rte_hash are
>    addressed using reader-writer locks. Use of reader-writer locks
>    results in following issues:
>
>    1) In many of the use cases for the hash table, writer threads
>       are running on control plane. If the writer is preempted while
>       holding the lock, it will block the readers for an extended period
>       resulting in packet drops. This problem seems to apply for platforms
>       with transactional memory support as well because of the algorithm
>       used for rte_rwlock_write_lock_tm:
>
>       static inline void
>       rte_rwlock_write_lock_tm(rte_rwlock_t *rwl)
>       {
>            if (likely(rte_try_tm(&rwl->cnt)))
>                    return;
>            rte_rwlock_write_lock(rwl);
>       }
>
>       i.e. there is a posibility of using rte_rwlock_write_lock in
>       failure cases.
[Wang, Yipeng]  In our test, TSX failure happens very rarely on a TSX platform. But we agree
that without TSX, the current rte_rwlock implementation may make the writer to
hold a lock for a period of time.

>    2) Reader-writer lock based solution does not address the following
>       issue.
>       rte_hash_lookup_xxx APIs return the index of the element in
>       the key store. Application(reader) can use that index to reference
>       other data structures in its scope. Because of this, the
>       index should not be freed till the application completes
>       using the index.
[Wang, Yipeng]  I agree on this use case. But I think we should provide new API functions for deletion
to users who want this behavior,
without changing the meaning of current API if that is possible.

>    Current code:
>	Cores	Lookup     Lookup
>		with add
>	2	474	   246
>	4	935        579
>	6	1387       1048
>	8	1766       1480
>	10	2119       1951
>	12	2546       2441
>
>    With this patch:
>	Cores	Lookup     Lookup
>		with add
>	2	291	   211
>	4	297	   196
>	6	304	   198
>	8	309	   202
>	10	315	   205
>	12	319	   209
>
[Wang, Yipeng] It would be good if you could provide the platform information on these results.

Another comment is as you know we also have a new extension to rte_hash to enable extendable
buckets and partial-key hashing. Thanks for the comments btw. Could you check if your lockless
scheme also applies to those extensions?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-09-27 23:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-06 17:12 Honnappa Nagarahalli
2018-09-06 17:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/4] hash: correct key store element alignment Honnappa Nagarahalli
2018-09-27 23:58   ` Wang, Yipeng1
2018-09-06 17:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/4] hash: add memory ordering to avoid race conditions Honnappa Nagarahalli
2018-09-28  0:43   ` Wang, Yipeng1
2018-09-30 22:20     ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2018-10-01 22:41       ` Wang, Yipeng1
2018-10-01 10:42     ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-02  1:52       ` Wang, Yipeng1
2018-09-06 17:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/4] hash: fix rw concurrency while moving keys Honnappa Nagarahalli
2018-09-28  1:00   ` Wang, Yipeng1
2018-09-28  8:26     ` Bruce Richardson
2018-09-28  8:55       ` Van Haaren, Harry
2018-09-30 22:33         ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2018-10-02 13:17           ` Van Haaren, Harry
2018-10-02 23:58             ` Wang, Yipeng1
2018-10-03 17:32               ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2018-10-03 17:56                 ` Wang, Yipeng1
2018-10-03 23:05                   ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-04  3:32                   ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2018-10-04  3:54                 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2018-10-04 19:16                   ` Wang, Yipeng1
2018-09-30 23:05     ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2018-10-01 22:56       ` Wang, Yipeng1
2018-10-03  0:16       ` Wang, Yipeng1
2018-10-03 17:39         ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2018-09-06 17:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/4] hash: enable lock-free reader-writer concurrency Honnappa Nagarahalli
2018-09-28  1:33   ` Wang, Yipeng1
2018-10-01  4:11     ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2018-10-01 23:54       ` Wang, Yipeng1
2018-10-11  5:24         ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2018-09-14 21:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/4] Address reader-writer concurrency in rte_hash Honnappa Nagarahalli
2018-09-26 14:36   ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2018-09-27 23:45 ` Wang, Yipeng1 [this message]
2018-09-28 21:11   ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2018-10-02  0:30     ` Wang, Yipeng1

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