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From: Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@mellanox.com>
To: Adrien Mazarguil <adrien.mazarguil@6wind.com>
Cc: Qi Zhang <qi.z.zhang@intel.com>, "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"declan.doherty@intel.com" <declan.doherty@intel.com>,
	"sugesh.chandran@intel.com" <sugesh.chandran@intel.com>,
	"michael.j.glynn@intel.com" <michael.j.glynn@intel.com>,
	"yu.y.liu@intel.com" <yu.y.liu@intel.com>,
	"konstantin.ananyev@intel.com" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>,
	"bruce.richardson@intel.com" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	Thomas Monjalon <thomasm@mellanox.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/4] ethdev: add TTL change actions in flow API
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 08:56:37 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DB7PR05MB4426548A245BB042C748271EC3B00@DB7PR05MB4426.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180416081226.GU4957@6wind.com>

Monday, April 16, 2018 11:12 AM, Adrien Mazarguil:
> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/4] ethdev: add TTL change actions in
> flow API
> 
> Hi Shahaf,
> 
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 05:48:19AM +0000, Shahaf Shuler wrote:
> > Hi Qi,
> >
> > Am wondering if we can make the below more generic and not tailored for
> specific use cases.
> 
> Regarding this, please see my previous answer [1] where I asked Qi to make
> his changes more focused on the use case at hand when it became clear all
> this work was targeting OpenFlow.

OK,
I missed that. Sorry for jumping in late.

> 
> The OF specification [2] defines the behavior associated with each action, for
> instance when a TTL is 0 or decrementing it would yield 0, the packet must be
> dropped. Translating this to a generic decrement action for any packet field is
> not so easy and not convenient.

I am not sure I understand why. It is to set -1 in the TTL field of the generic action. 
We can define the corner cases more carefully as part of the actions. For example - no wrap around. 
I did not understood the drop if TTL is 0 is part of the action (it is not described the action description[1]).
Is this the case? 

I think it is wrong approach to introduce a "combo" actions (both decrements and drops if value) in rte_flow. 
I would model such  operation by a set of (pseudo code)
1. ACTION_FIELD_DEC_INC , ACTION_GO_TO_GROUP
2. (in next group) matching on the TTL , ACTION_DROP 

> 
> Therefore my opinion is that if OF actions as defined by this specification are
> supported as hardware capabilities, it makes sense to define dedicated
> rte_flow actions for each of them (although "OF" should be part of their
> name for clarity).

I still think we may need in the future to support copy/increment/decrement of fields not specifically related to OF. 
It is better to have APIs which will not change or have double meaning. 


[1]
[1]
+Action: ``IP_TTL_DEC``
+^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
+
+Decrement IPv4 TTL or IPv6 hop limit field and update the IP checksum, 
+only applies to packets that contain specific MPLS headers.
+
+.. _table_rte_flow_action_ip_ttl_dec:
+
+.. table:: IP_TTL_DEC


> 
> I'll comment the patch proper in a separate message.
> 
> [1]
> https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdpd
> k.org%2Fml%2Farchives%2Fdev%2F2018-
> April%2F096857.html&data=02%7C01%7Cshahafs%40mellanox.com%7C6d2b
> 747ae47841bc55e508d5a371d2f4%7Ca652971c7d2e4d9ba6a4d149256f461b%7
> C0%7C0%7C636594631626247567&sdata=3oTbKT6QwS1WiAIrkF885dEU76ep4
> xreuHoHiwDA2Ec%3D&reserved=0
> [2]
> https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fw
> ww.opennetworking.org%2Fimages%2Fstories%2Fdownloads%2Fsdn-
> resources%2Fonf-specifications%2Fopenflow%2Fopenflow-spec-
> v1.3.0.pdf&data=02%7C01%7Cshahafs%40mellanox.com%7C6d2b747ae4784
> 1bc55e508d5a371d2f4%7Ca652971c7d2e4d9ba6a4d149256f461b%7C0%7C1%
> 7C636594631626247567&sdata=e6uelVwIu1poE2uIvEJELuIzela8H%2B8HclQE5
> EdKEaM%3D&reserved=0
> 
> --
> Adrien Mazarguil
> 6WIND

  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-16  8:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-28 23:29 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/4] rte_flow extension for vSwitch acceleration Qi Zhang
2018-03-28 23:29 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/4] ether: add flow action to redirect packet in a switch domain Qi Zhang
2018-03-29 10:48   ` Pattan, Reshma
2018-03-29 11:20   ` Pattan, Reshma
2018-03-28 23:29 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/4] ether: add flow last hit query support Qi Zhang
2018-03-28 23:29 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/4] ether: add more protocol support in flow API Qi Zhang
2018-03-29 14:32   ` Pattan, Reshma
2018-03-28 23:29 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/4] ether: add packet modification aciton " Qi Zhang
2018-03-29 15:23   ` Pattan, Reshma
2018-04-02  3:35     ` Zhang, Qi Z
2018-04-01 21:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/4] rte_flow extension for vSwitch acceleration Qi Zhang
2018-04-01 21:19   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/4] ether: add flow action to redirect packet to a port Qi Zhang
2018-04-11 16:30     ` Adrien Mazarguil
2018-04-01 21:19   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/4] ether: add flow last hit query support Qi Zhang
2018-04-11 16:31     ` Adrien Mazarguil
2018-04-01 21:19   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/4] ether: add more protocol support in flow API Qi Zhang
2018-04-11 16:32     ` Adrien Mazarguil
2018-04-12  5:12       ` Zhang, Qi Z
2018-04-12  9:19         ` Adrien Mazarguil
2018-04-12 10:00           ` Zhang, Qi Z
2018-04-01 21:19   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 4/4] ether: add packet modification aciton " Qi Zhang
2018-04-12  7:03     ` Adrien Mazarguil
2018-04-12  8:50       ` Zhang, Qi Z
2018-04-12 10:22         ` Adrien Mazarguil
2018-04-13 13:47           ` Zhang, Qi Z
2018-04-16 13:30             ` Adrien Mazarguil
2018-04-16 15:03               ` Zhang, Qi Z
2018-04-17  9:55                 ` Adrien Mazarguil
2018-04-17 10:32                   ` Zhang, Qi Z
2018-04-10 14:12   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/4] rte_flow extension for vSwitch acceleration Thomas Monjalon
2018-04-16  5:16 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 " Qi Zhang
2018-04-16  5:16   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/4] ethdev: add more protocol support in flow API Qi Zhang
2018-04-16  5:16   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/4] ethdev: add packet field set aciton " Qi Zhang
2018-04-16  5:16   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/4] ethdev: add TTL change actions " Qi Zhang
2018-04-16  5:48     ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-04-16  8:12       ` Adrien Mazarguil
2018-04-16  8:56         ` Shahaf Shuler [this message]
2018-04-16  9:59           ` Adrien Mazarguil
2018-04-16  5:16   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 4/4] ethdev: add VLAN and MPLS pop push action " Qi Zhang
2018-04-16  6:10 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/4] rte_flow extension for vSwitch acceleration Qi Zhang
2018-04-16  6:10   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/4] ethdev: add more protocol support in flow API Qi Zhang
2018-04-19 14:48     ` Adrien Mazarguil
2018-04-16  6:10   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/4] ethdev: add packet field set aciton " Qi Zhang
2018-04-19 14:48     ` Adrien Mazarguil
2018-04-20  2:24       ` Zhang, Qi Z
2018-04-20  8:54         ` Adrien Mazarguil
2018-04-16  6:10   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/4] ethdev: add TTL change actions " Qi Zhang
2018-04-19 14:48     ` Adrien Mazarguil
2018-04-16  6:10   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 4/4] ethdev: add VLAN and MPLS pop push action " Qi Zhang
2018-04-17  7:34     ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-04-19 14:49     ` Adrien Mazarguil
2018-04-23  6:36 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/3] rte_flow extension for vSwitch acceleration Qi Zhang
2018-04-23  6:36   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/3] ethdev: add more protocol support in flow API Qi Zhang
2018-04-23  6:36   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/3] ethdev: add TTL change actions " Qi Zhang
2018-04-23  6:36   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/3] ethdev: add VLAN and MPLS " Qi Zhang
2018-04-24 15:58   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/3] rte_flow extension for vSwitch acceleration Adrien Mazarguil
2018-04-24 15:58     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/3] ethdev: add neighbor discovery support to flow API Adrien Mazarguil
2018-04-24 15:59     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/3] ethdev: add TTL change actions " Adrien Mazarguil
2018-04-24 15:59     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/3] ethdev: add VLAN and MPLS " Adrien Mazarguil
2018-04-25 13:54     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/3] rte_flow extension for vSwitch acceleration Zhang, Qi Z
2018-04-25 22:44       ` Ferruh Yigit

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