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From: Tomasz Duszynski <tduszynski@marvell.com>
To: Tyler Retzlaff <roretzla@linux.microsoft.com>
Cc: "bruce.richardson@intel.com" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	"mb@smartsharesystems.com" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"thomas@monjalon.net" <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran <jerinj@marvell.com>,
	"Ruifeng.Wang@arm.com" <Ruifeng.Wang@arm.com>,
	"mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com" <mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com>,
	"zhoumin@loongson.cn" <zhoumin@loongson.cn>
Subject: RE: [EXT] Re: [PATCH v5 0/4] add support for self monitoring
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2023 07:44:57 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DM4PR18MB436824DBBA14520ADD6949BCD2C29@DM4PR18MB4368.namprd18.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230111210547.GA2134@linuxonhyperv3.guj3yctzbm1etfxqx2vob5hsef.xx.internal.cloudapp.net>



>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tyler Retzlaff <roretzla@linux.microsoft.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2023 10:06 PM
>To: Tomasz Duszynski <tduszynski@marvell.com>
>Cc: bruce.richardson@intel.com; mb@smartsharesystems.com; dev@dpdk.org; thomas@monjalon.net; Jerin
>Jacob Kollanukkaran <jerinj@marvell.com>; Ruifeng.Wang@arm.com; mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com;
>zhoumin@loongson.cn
>Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: [PATCH v5 0/4] add support for self monitoring
>
>On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 09:39:35AM +0000, Tomasz Duszynski wrote:
>> Hi Tyler,
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: Tyler Retzlaff <roretzla@linux.microsoft.com>
>> >Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2023 1:32 AM
>> >To: Tomasz Duszynski <tduszynski@marvell.com>;
>> >bruce.richardson@intel.com; mb@smartsharesystems.com
>> >Cc: dev@dpdk.org; thomas@monjalon.net; Jerin Jacob Kollanukkaran
>> ><jerinj@marvell.com>; mb@smartsharesystems.com; Ruifeng.Wang@arm.com;
>> >mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com; zhoumin@loongson.cn
>> >Subject: [EXT] Re: [PATCH v5 0/4] add support for self monitoring
>> >
>> >External Email
>> >
>> >---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >-
>> >hi,
>> >
>> >don't interpret this as an objection to the functionality but this
>> >looks like a clear example of something that doesn't belong in the
>> >EAL. has there been a discussion as to whether or not this should be in a separate library?
>>
>> No, I don't recall anybody having any concerns about the code
>> placement. Rationale behind making this part of eal was based on the
>> fact that tracing itself is a part of eal and since this was meant to be extension to tracing,
>code placement decision came out naturally.
>>
>> During development phase idea evolved a bit and what initially was
>> supposed to be solely yet another tracepoint become generic API to
>> read pmu and tracepoint based on that. Which means both can be used independently.
>>
>> That said, since this code has both platform agnostic and platform specific parts this can either
>be split into:
>> 1. library + eal platform code
>> 2. all under eal
>>
>> Either approach seems legit. Thoughts?
>>
>> >
>> >a basic test is whether or not an implementation exists or can be
>> >reasonably provided for all platforms and that isn't strictly evident
>> >here. red flag is to see yet more code being added conditionally compiled for a single platform.
>>
>> Even libs are not entirely pristine and have platform specific ifdefs
>> lurking so not sure where this red flag is coming from.
>
>i think red flag was probably the wrong term to use sorry for that.
>rather i should say it is an indicator that the api probably doesn't belong in the eal.
>
>fundamentally the purpose of the abstraction library is to relieve the application from having to
>do conditional compilation and/or execution for the subject apis coming from eal. including and
>exporting apis that work for only one platform is in direct contradiction.
>
>please explore adding this as a separate library, it is understood that there are tradeoffs
>involved.
>
>thanks!

Any ideas how to name the library?


  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-13  7:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 139+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-11  9:43 [PATCH " Tomasz Duszynski
2022-11-11  9:43 ` [PATCH 1/4] eal: add generic support for reading PMU events Tomasz Duszynski
2022-12-15  8:33   ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-11-11  9:43 ` [PATCH 2/4] eal/arm: support reading ARM PMU events in runtime Tomasz Duszynski
2022-11-11  9:43 ` [PATCH 3/4] eal/x86: support reading Intel " Tomasz Duszynski
2022-11-11  9:43 ` [PATCH 4/4] eal: add PMU support to tracing library Tomasz Duszynski
2022-11-21 12:11 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] add support for self monitoring Tomasz Duszynski
2022-11-21 12:11   ` [PATCH v2 1/4] eal: add generic support for reading PMU events Tomasz Duszynski
2022-11-21 12:11   ` [PATCH v2 2/4] eal/arm: support reading ARM PMU events in runtime Tomasz Duszynski
2022-11-21 12:11   ` [PATCH v2 3/4] eal/x86: support reading Intel " Tomasz Duszynski
2022-11-21 12:11   ` [PATCH v2 4/4] eal: add PMU support to tracing library Tomasz Duszynski
2022-11-29  9:28   ` [PATCH v3 0/4] add support for self monitoring Tomasz Duszynski
2022-11-29  9:28     ` [PATCH v3 1/4] eal: add generic support for reading PMU events Tomasz Duszynski
2022-11-30  8:32       ` zhoumin
2022-12-13  8:05         ` [EXT] " Tomasz Duszynski
2022-11-29  9:28     ` [PATCH v3 2/4] eal/arm: support reading ARM PMU events in runtime Tomasz Duszynski
2022-11-29  9:28     ` [PATCH v3 3/4] eal/x86: support reading Intel " Tomasz Duszynski
2022-11-29  9:28     ` [PATCH v3 4/4] eal: add PMU support to tracing library Tomasz Duszynski
2022-11-29 10:42     ` [PATCH v3 0/4] add support for self monitoring Morten Brørup
2022-12-13  8:23       ` Tomasz Duszynski
2022-12-13 10:43     ` [PATCH v4 " Tomasz Duszynski
2022-12-13 10:43       ` [PATCH v4 1/4] eal: add generic support for reading PMU events Tomasz Duszynski
2022-12-13 11:52         ` Morten Brørup
2022-12-14  9:38           ` Tomasz Duszynski
2022-12-14 10:41             ` Morten Brørup
2022-12-15  8:22               ` Morten Brørup
2022-12-16  7:33                 ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-05 21:14               ` Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-05 22:07                 ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-08 15:41                   ` Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-08 16:30                     ` Morten Brørup
2022-12-15  8:46         ` Mattias Rönnblom
2023-01-04 15:47           ` Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-09  7:37         ` Ruifeng Wang
2023-01-09 15:40           ` Tomasz Duszynski
2022-12-13 10:43       ` [PATCH v4 2/4] eal/arm: support reading ARM PMU events in runtime Tomasz Duszynski
2022-12-13 10:43       ` [PATCH v4 3/4] eal/x86: support reading Intel " Tomasz Duszynski
2022-12-13 10:43       ` [PATCH v4 4/4] eal: add PMU support to tracing library Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-10 23:46       ` [PATCH v5 0/4] add support for self monitoring Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-10 23:46         ` [PATCH v5 1/4] eal: add generic support for reading PMU events Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-11  9:05           ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-11 16:20             ` Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-11 16:54               ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-10 23:46         ` [PATCH v5 2/4] eal/arm: support reading ARM PMU events in runtime Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-10 23:46         ` [PATCH v5 3/4] eal/x86: support reading Intel " Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-10 23:46         ` [PATCH v5 4/4] eal: add PMU support to tracing library Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-11  0:32         ` [PATCH v5 0/4] add support for self monitoring Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-11  9:31           ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-11 14:24             ` Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-11 14:32               ` Bruce Richardson
2023-01-11  9:39           ` [EXT] " Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-11 21:05             ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-13  7:44               ` Tomasz Duszynski [this message]
2023-01-13 19:22                 ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-14  9:53                   ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-19 23:39         ` [PATCH v6 " Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-19 23:39           ` [PATCH v6 1/4] lib: add generic support for reading PMU events Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-20  9:46             ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-26  9:40               ` Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-26 12:29                 ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-26 12:59                   ` Bruce Richardson
2023-01-26 15:28                     ` [EXT] " Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-02 14:27                       ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-26 15:17                   ` Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-20 18:29             ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-26  9:05               ` [EXT] " Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-19 23:39           ` [PATCH v6 2/4] pmu: support reading ARM PMU events in runtime Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-19 23:39           ` [PATCH v6 3/4] pmu: support reading Intel x86_64 " Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-19 23:39           ` [PATCH v6 4/4] eal: add PMU support to tracing library Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-01 13:17           ` [PATCH v7 0/4] add support for self monitoring Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-01 13:17             ` [PATCH v7 1/4] lib: add generic support for reading PMU events Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-01 13:17             ` [PATCH v7 2/4] pmu: support reading ARM PMU events in runtime Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-01 13:17             ` [PATCH v7 3/4] pmu: support reading Intel x86_64 " Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-01 13:17             ` [PATCH v7 4/4] eal: add PMU support to tracing library Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-01 13:51             ` [PATCH v7 0/4] add support for self monitoring Morten Brørup
2023-02-02  7:54               ` Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-02  9:43             ` [PATCH v8 " Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-02  9:43               ` [PATCH v8 1/4] lib: add generic support for reading PMU events Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-02 10:32                 ` Ruifeng Wang
2023-02-02  9:43               ` [PATCH v8 2/4] pmu: support reading ARM PMU events in runtime Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-02  9:43               ` [PATCH v8 3/4] pmu: support reading Intel x86_64 " Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-02  9:43               ` [PATCH v8 4/4] eal: add PMU support to tracing library Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-02 12:49               ` [PATCH v9 0/4] add support for self monitoring Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-02 12:49                 ` [PATCH v9 1/4] lib: add generic support for reading PMU events Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-06 11:02                   ` David Marchand
2023-02-09 11:09                     ` [EXT] " Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-02 12:49                 ` [PATCH v9 2/4] pmu: support reading ARM PMU events in runtime Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-02 12:49                 ` [PATCH v9 3/4] pmu: support reading Intel x86_64 " Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-02 12:49                 ` [PATCH v9 4/4] eal: add PMU support to tracing library Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-13 11:31                 ` [PATCH v10 0/4] add support for self monitoring Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-13 11:31                   ` [PATCH v10 1/4] lib: add generic support for reading PMU events Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-16  7:39                     ` Ruifeng Wang
2023-02-16 14:44                       ` Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-13 11:31                   ` [PATCH v10 2/4] pmu: support reading ARM PMU events in runtime Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-16  7:41                     ` Ruifeng Wang
2023-02-13 11:31                   ` [PATCH v10 3/4] pmu: support reading Intel x86_64 " Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-13 11:31                   ` [PATCH v10 4/4] eal: add PMU support to tracing library Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-16 17:54                   ` [PATCH v11 0/4] add support for self monitoring Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-16 17:54                     ` [PATCH v11 1/4] lib: add generic support for reading PMU events Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-16 23:50                       ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-17  8:49                         ` [EXT] " Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-17 10:14                           ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-19 14:23                             ` Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-20 14:31                               ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-20 16:59                                 ` Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-20 17:21                                   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-20 20:42                                     ` Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-21  0:48                                       ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-27  8:12                                         ` Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-28 11:35                                           ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-21 12:15                           ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-21  2:17                       ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-27  9:19                         ` [EXT] " Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-27 20:53                           ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-28  8:25                             ` Morten Brørup
2023-02-28 12:04                               ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-28 13:15                                 ` Morten Brørup
2023-02-28 16:22                                 ` Morten Brørup
2023-03-05 16:30                                   ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-28  9:57                             ` Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-28 11:58                               ` Konstantin Ananyev
2023-02-16 17:55                     ` [PATCH v11 2/4] pmu: support reading ARM PMU events in runtime Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-16 17:55                     ` [PATCH v11 3/4] pmu: support reading Intel x86_64 " Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-16 17:55                     ` [PATCH v11 4/4] eal: add PMU support to tracing library Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-16 18:03                     ` [PATCH v11 0/4] add support for self monitoring Ruifeng Wang
2023-05-04  8:02                     ` David Marchand
2023-07-31 12:33                       ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-08-07  8:11                         ` [EXT] " Tomasz Duszynski
2023-09-21  8:26                           ` David Marchand
2023-01-25 10:33         ` [PATCH 0/2] add platform bus Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-25 10:33           ` [PATCH 1/2] lib: add helper to read strings from sysfs files Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-25 10:39             ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-01-25 16:16               ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-26  8:30                 ` [EXT] " Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-26 17:21                   ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-26  8:35               ` Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-25 10:33           ` [PATCH 2/2] bus: add platform bus Tomasz Duszynski
2023-01-25 10:41           ` [PATCH 0/2] " Tomasz Duszynski
2023-02-16 20:56         ` [PATCH v5 0/4] add support for self monitoring Liang Ma

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