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From: Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>
To: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org, thomas@monjalon.net, john.mcnamara@intel.com,
	bruce.richardson@intel.com
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 3/5] Makefiles: Add experimental tag check and warnings to trigger on use
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 11:49:57 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a945deb9-ecee-9538-c3a4-dd3905bd0fa4@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180111205025.GA6879@hmswarspite.think-freely.org>

On 1/11/2018 8:50 PM, Neil Horman wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 08:06:43PM +0000, Ferruh Yigit wrote:
>> On 12/13/2017 3:17 PM, Neil Horman wrote:
>>> Add checks during build to ensure that all symbols in the EXPERIMENTAL
>>> version map section have __experimental tags on their definitions, and
>>> enable the warnings needed to announce their use.  Also add an
>>> ALLOW_EXPERIMENTAL_APIS define to allow individual libraries and files
>>> to declare the acceptability of experimental api usage
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>
>>> CC: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
>>> CC: "Mcnamara, John" <john.mcnamara@intel.com>
>>> CC: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
>>> ---
>>>  app/test-eventdev/Makefile                 | 1 +
>>>  app/test-pmd/Makefile                      | 1 +
>>>  drivers/event/sw/Makefile                  | 1 +
>>>  drivers/net/failsafe/Makefile              | 1 +
>>>  drivers/net/ixgbe/Makefile                 | 1 +
>>>  examples/eventdev_pipeline_sw_pmd/Makefile | 1 +
>>>  examples/flow_classify/Makefile            | 1 +
>>>  examples/ipsec-secgw/Makefile              | 1 +
>>>  examples/service_cores/Makefile            | 1 +
>>>  lib/librte_eal/bsdapp/eal/Makefile         | 1 +
>>>  lib/librte_eal/linuxapp/Makefile           | 2 ++
>>>  lib/librte_eal/linuxapp/eal/Makefile       | 2 ++
>>>  lib/librte_eventdev/Makefile               | 1 +
>>>  lib/librte_security/Makefile               | 1 +
>>>  mk/internal/rte.compile-pre.mk             | 4 ++++
>>>  mk/toolchain/clang/rte.vars.mk             | 2 +-
>>>  mk/toolchain/gcc/rte.vars.mk               | 2 +-
>>>  mk/toolchain/icc/rte.vars.mk               | 2 +-
>>>  18 files changed, 23 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/app/test-eventdev/Makefile b/app/test-eventdev/Makefile
>>> index dcb2ac476..78bae7633 100644
>>> --- a/app/test-eventdev/Makefile
>>> +++ b/app/test-eventdev/Makefile
>>> @@ -32,6 +32,7 @@ include $(RTE_SDK)/mk/rte.vars.mk
>>>  
>>>  APP = dpdk-test-eventdev
>>>  
>>> +CFLAGS += -DALLOW_EXPERIMENTAL_APIS
>>
>> Do we need this internally in DPDK? For application developers this is great,
>> they will get warning unless explicitly stated that they are OK with it.
>>
> I'm not sure what you're asking here.  As I mentioned in the initial post, I
> think we should give blanket permission to any in-tree dpdk library to allow the
> use of experimental API's, but that doesn't really imply that all developers
> would wan't it disabled all the time.  That is to say, I could envision a
> library author who, early in development would want to get a warning issued if
> they used an unstable API, and, only once they were happy with their design and
> choice of API usage, turn the warning off.

I got your point, but I think whoever using an experimental API in another
component in DPDK is almost always the author of the that experimental API, so
not sure this check is ever really needed within dpdk.

But OK, I guess it won't hurt to have more granular approach.

> 
>> Do we have any option than allowing them in DPDK library? And when experimental
>> API modified the users in the DPDK library internally guaranteed to be updated.
>> Why not globally allow this for all DPDK internally?
>>
> For the reason I gave above.  We certainly could enable this in a more top-level
> makefile so that for in-library systems it was opt-in rather than opt-out, but I
> chose a more granular approach because I could envision newer libraries wanting
> it on.  I also felt, generally speaking, that where warning flags were
> concerned, it generally desireous to have them on by default, and make people
> explicitly choose to turn them off.
> 
> Regards
> Neil
> 
> 
>>>  CFLAGS += -O3
>>>  CFLAGS += $(WERROR_FLAGS)
>>>  
>>
>> <...>
>>
>>

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-12 11:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-01 18:56 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/4] dpdk: enhance EXPERIMENTAL api tagging Neil Horman
2017-12-01 18:56 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/4] buildtools: Add tool to check EXPERIMENTAL api exports Neil Horman
2017-12-01 18:56 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/4] compat: Add __experimental macro Neil Horman
2017-12-01 18:56 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/4] dpdk: add __experimental tag to appropriate api calls Neil Horman
2017-12-01 18:56 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/4] Makefiles: Add experimental tag check and warnings to trigger on use Neil Horman
2017-12-08 17:14 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv2 0/4] dpdk: enhance EXPERIMENTAL api tagging Neil Horman
2017-12-08 17:14   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv2 1/4] buildtools: Add tool to check EXPERIMENTAL api exports Neil Horman
2017-12-08 17:14   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv2 2/4] compat: Add __experimental macro Neil Horman
2017-12-08 17:14   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv2 3/4] Makefiles: Add experimental tag check and warnings to trigger on use Neil Horman
2017-12-11 11:35     ` Bruce Richardson
2017-12-11 12:40       ` Neil Horman
2017-12-11 12:45         ` Bruce Richardson
2017-12-11 18:44           ` Neil Horman
2017-12-08 17:14   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv2 4/4] dpdk: add __experimental tag to appropriate api calls Neil Horman
2017-12-11 19:36 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv3 0/4] dpdk: enhance EXPERIMENTAL api tagging Neil Horman
2017-12-11 19:36   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv3 1/4] buildtools: Add tool to check EXPERIMENTAL api exports Neil Horman
2017-12-11 19:36   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv3 2/4] compat: Add __experimental macro Neil Horman
2017-12-11 19:36   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv3 3/4] Makefiles: Add experimental tag check and warnings to trigger on use Neil Horman
2017-12-11 19:36   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv3 4/4] dpdk: add __experimental tag to appropriate api calls Neil Horman
2017-12-12 14:07   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv3 0/4] dpdk: enhance EXPERIMENTAL api tagging Bruce Richardson
2017-12-30 17:15     ` Neil Horman
2018-01-04 12:56       ` Neil Horman
2018-01-05 14:08         ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-05 16:00           ` Neil Horman
2018-01-09  1:32             ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-ci] " Neil Horman
2018-01-09  9:20               ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-09 12:36                 ` Neil Horman
2018-01-19 15:44                 ` Neil Horman
2017-12-12 14:33   ` [dpdk-dev] " Mcnamara, John
2017-12-12 20:18     ` Neil Horman
2017-12-12 15:11   ` Wiles, Keith
2017-12-12 20:14     ` Neil Horman
2017-12-13 15:17 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 " Neil Horman
2017-12-13 15:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 1/5] buildtools: Add tool to check EXPERIMENTAL api exports Neil Horman
2018-01-21 18:31     ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-21 22:07       ` Neil Horman
2017-12-13 15:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 2/5] compat: Add __experimental macro Neil Horman
2018-01-21 18:37     ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-12-13 15:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 3/5] Makefiles: Add experimental tag check and warnings to trigger on use Neil Horman
2018-01-11 20:06     ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-01-11 20:50       ` Neil Horman
2018-01-12 11:49         ` Ferruh Yigit [this message]
2018-01-12 12:44           ` Neil Horman
2018-01-21 18:54             ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-22  1:34               ` Neil Horman
2018-01-22  1:37                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-21 18:50     ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-22  1:19       ` Neil Horman
2017-12-13 15:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 4/5] dpdk: add __experimental tag to appropriate api calls Neil Horman
2018-01-11 20:06     ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-01-11 21:24       ` Neil Horman
2018-01-12 11:50         ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-01-12 14:25           ` Neil Horman
2018-01-12 15:53             ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-12-13 15:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 5/5] doc: Add ABI __experimental tag documentation Neil Horman
2017-12-13 15:32     ` Bruce Richardson
2018-01-11 20:06     ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-01-11 21:29       ` Neil Horman
2018-01-12 11:50         ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-01-12 14:37           ` Neil Horman
2018-01-12 15:55             ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-01-13  0:28               ` Neil Horman
2018-01-13 15:56                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-14 14:36                   ` Neil Horman
2018-01-14 16:27                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-21 20:14     ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-12-13 15:32   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCHv4 0/4] dpdk: enhance EXPERIMENTAL api tagging Bruce Richardson
2017-12-21 14:21   ` Neil Horman
2017-12-30 19:20   ` Luca Boccassi
2017-12-31  1:57     ` Neil Horman
2018-01-22  1:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/5] " Neil Horman
2018-01-22  1:48   ` [dpdk-dev] [[PATCH v5] 1/5] buildtools: Add tool to check EXPERIMENTAL api exports Neil Horman
2018-01-22  1:48   ` [dpdk-dev] [[PATCH v5] 2/5] compat: Add __rte_experimental macro Neil Horman
2018-01-22  1:48   ` [dpdk-dev] [[PATCH v5] 3/5] Makefiles: Add experimental tag check and warnings to trigger on use Neil Horman
2018-01-22  1:48   ` [dpdk-dev] [[PATCH v5] 4/5] dpdk: add __rte_experimental tag to appropriate api calls Neil Horman
2018-01-22  1:48   ` [dpdk-dev] [[PATCH v5] 5/5] doc: Add ABI __experimental tag documentation Neil Horman
2018-01-23 10:35     ` Mcnamara, John
2018-01-29 21:42       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-29 21:46   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/5] dpdk: enhance EXPERIMENTAL api tagging Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-30 15:54     ` Neil Horman
2018-01-30 16:15       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-31 12:18         ` Neil Horman
2018-01-31 12:36           ` Thomas Monjalon

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