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charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 0/4] get Rx/Tx packet burst mode information X-BeenThere: dev@dpdk.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: DPDK patches and discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: dev-bounces@dpdk.org Sender: "dev" On 9/26/2019 6:15 PM, Stephen Hemminger wrote: > On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 16:36:09 +0000 > "Wang, Haiyue" wrote: > >> Hi Stephen, >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Stephen Hemminger [mailto:stephen@networkplumber.org] >>> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2019 23:57 >>> To: Wang, Haiyue >>> Cc: dev@dpdk.org; Yigit, Ferruh ; Ye, Xiaolong ; >>> Kinsella, Ray ; Iremonger, Bernard ; Sun, Chenmin >>> >>> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 0/4] get Rx/Tx packet burst mode information >>> >>> On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 19:48:14 +0800 >>> Haiyue Wang wrote: >>> >>>> RFCv3 -> v1: >>>> https://patchwork.dpdk.org/patch/59103/ >>>> https://patchwork.dpdk.org/patch/59104/ >>>> https://patchwork.dpdk.org/patch/59105/ >>>> https://patchwork.dpdk.org/patch/59106/ >>>> 1). Use the function 'rte_bsf64' to iterate the options for >>>> getting the name. >>>> >>>> Haiyue Wang (4): >>>> ethdev: add the API for getting burst mode information >>>> net/i40e: support to get the Rx/Tx burst mode >>>> net/ice: support to get the Rx/Tx burst mode >>>> app/testpmd: show the Rx/Tx burst mode description >>>> >>>> app/test-pmd/config.c | 29 +++++++++ >>>> doc/guides/rel_notes/release_19_11.rst | 9 +++ >>>> drivers/net/i40e/i40e_ethdev.c | 2 + >>>> drivers/net/i40e/i40e_ethdev.h | 4 ++ >>>> drivers/net/i40e/i40e_rxtx.c | 72 +++++++++++++++++++++ >>>> drivers/net/ice/ice_ethdev.c | 2 + >>>> drivers/net/ice/ice_rxtx.c | 54 ++++++++++++++++ >>>> drivers/net/ice/ice_rxtx.h | 4 ++ >>>> lib/librte_ethdev/rte_ethdev.c | 75 ++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>> lib/librte_ethdev/rte_ethdev.h | 82 ++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>> lib/librte_ethdev/rte_ethdev_core.h | 5 ++ >>>> lib/librte_ethdev/rte_ethdev_version.map | 5 ++ >>>> 12 files changed, 343 insertions(+) >>>> >>> >>> A couple of meta comments: >>> 1) Could this be part of dev_info_get somehow? >>> >> >> https://patchwork.dpdk.org/patch/57624/ >> 'Think of a better way that doesn't break ABI.' ;-) > > That comment was made relative to 19.08, but 19.11 is the time where > API/ABI breakage is allowed. 'rte_eth_dev_info_get()' is already a little messy, yes this can be part of it but I think separate, smaller, better defined APIs are better. Also almost everybody interested in 'rte_eth_dev_info_get()', but not sure everyone will be interested in this info. > >>> 2) Why should application care? Is this just a test hook? >> >> https://patches.dpdk.org/cover/57623/ >> This is from FD.io VPP's bug, and finally, we come out >> this API for application accessing the burst mode information. >> It can be used as a simple trace or something like performance >> analysis like why slow ? Not in vector, anyway, application can >> get this burst mode information now, not just open PMD debug log >> level. > > From an architecture perspective, diagnostics are good but VPP is probably > taking that too far. It is possible to expose local symbols if they > want to keep using dlsym() by adjusting linker flags. It is more that VPP > is stripping everything. Since VPP has chosen to go their own > way is fixable inside VPP without changing DPDK. Also, long term VPP is > going away from using DPDK drivers. Probably soon they will have their > own drivers for i40e and ice anyway. > > > The basis of my concern is that this is one of those kind of API's > that creates long term technical debt around supporting it as other > things change. >