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From: Thomas Monjalon <thomas.monjalon@6wind.com>
To: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Cc: Helin Zhang <helin.zhang@intel.com>, dev@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] DPDK and HW offloads
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 19:00:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <10753400.05iPBPOT6f@xps13> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160318101611.2df26ef6@xeon-e3>

2016-03-18 10:16, Stephen Hemminger:
> As I look at how the ethernet device interface in DPDK has exploded in complexity;

Yes I would like to start addressing this complexity in 16.07.

> it makes life very hard for end users.  The goal has been to enable all the cool hardware
> features, but it has put blinders on the driver devlopers; they are ignoring the fact
> that real applications can't just work on one kind of hardware.

+1

> The DPDK is doing a terrible job at providing abstractions.  There needs to be a
> real generic set of operations, and every hardware offload feature must:
>   * have a clear well defined API

+1

>   * if feature is not available in software, then the DPDK must provide
>     a software equivalent feature.

I'm not against this idea. Looking for more opinions.

>   * any difference in API must be hidden from application.
>   * no compile config options about offload.
>   * tests and documentation must work for both hw and sw version
> 
> Right now, all those offload features are pretty much unusable in a real product
> without lots and lots of extra codes and huge bug surface. It bothers me enough
> that I would recommend removing much of the filter/offload/ptype stuff from DPDK!

One of the biggest challenge is to think about a good filtering API.
The offloading has some interaction with the mbuf struct.

I would like to suggest rewriting ethdev API by keeping it as is for some time for
compatibility while creating a new one. What about the prefix dpdk_netdev_ to
progressively replace rte_eth_dev?

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-18 18:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-18 17:16 Stephen Hemminger
2016-03-18 18:00 ` Thomas Monjalon [this message]
2016-03-20 14:17   ` Zhang, Helin
2016-03-20 19:18     ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-03-21 14:52       ` Bruce Richardson
2016-03-21 15:26         ` Kyle Larose
2016-03-22  5:50           ` Qiu, Michael
2016-03-22 10:19             ` Bruce Richardson
2016-03-22 12:19               ` Jay Rolette
2016-03-22 17:17                 ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-03-22 17:41                   ` Jerin Jacob
2016-03-23  2:47               ` Qiu, Michael

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