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From: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
To: "Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)" <Gavin.Hu@arm.com>,
	Honnappa Nagarahalli <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>
Cc: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"olivier.matz@6wind.com" <olivier.matz@6wind.com>,
	"chaozhu@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <chaozhu@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"bruce.richardson@intel.com" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	"konstantin.ananyev@intel.com" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>,
	"jerin.jacob@caviumnetworks.com" <jerin.jacob@caviumnetworks.com>,
	"stable@dpdk.org" <stable@dpdk.org>, nd <nd@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/2] ring: move the atomic load of head above the loop
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2018 10:36:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <15443120.J8yKmjSJbt@xps> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR08MB3167D05E09C39C714E60904D8FCF0@VI1PR08MB3167.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com>

02/11/2018 08:15, Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China):
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Honnappa Nagarahalli
> > Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 12:31 PM
> > To: Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China) <Gavin.Hu@arm.com>; Stephen
> > Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
> > Cc: dev@dpdk.org; thomas@monjalon.net; olivier.matz@6wind.com;
> > chaozhu@linux.vnet.ibm.com; bruce.richardson@intel.com;
> > konstantin.ananyev@intel.com; jerin.jacob@caviumnetworks.com;
> > stable@dpdk.org; nd <nd@arm.com>
> > Subject: RE: [PATCH v4 2/2] ring: move the atomic load of head above the
> > loop
> > 
> > <Fixing this to make the reply inline, making email plain text>
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 17:53:51 +0800
> > Gavin Hu <mailto:gavin.hu@arm.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > +* **Updated the ring library with C11 memory model.**
> > > +
> > > + Updated the ring library with C11 memory model including the following
> > changes:
> > > +
> > > + * Synchronize the load and store of the tail
> > > + * Move the atomic load of head above the loop
> > > +
> > 
> > Does this really need to be in the release notes? Is it a user visible change or
> > just an internal/optimization and fix.
> > 
> > [Gavin] There is no api changes, but this is a significant change as ring is
> > fundamental and widely used, it decreases latency by 25% in our tests, it may
> > do even better for cases with more contending producers/consumers or
> > deeper depth of rings.
> > 
> > [Honnappa] I agree with Stephen. Release notes should be written from
> > DPDK user perspective. In the rte_ring case, the user has the option of
> > choosing between c11 and non-c11 algorithms. Performance would be one
> > of the criteria to choose between these 2 algorithms. IMO, it probably makes
> > sense to indicate that the performance of c11 based algorithm has been
> > improved. However, I do not know what DPDK has followed historically
> > regarding performance optimizations. I would prefer to follow whatever has
> > been followed so far.
> > I do not think that we need to document the details of the internal changes
> > since it does not help the user make a decision.
> 
> I read through the online guidelines for release notes, besides API and new features, resolved issues which are significant and not newly introduced in this release cycle, should also be included.
> In this case, the resolved issue existed for long time, across multiple release cycles and ring is a core lib, so it should be a candidate for release notes. 
> 
> https://doc.dpdk.org/guides-18.08/contributing/patches.html
> section 5.5 says: 
> Important changes will require an addition to the release notes in doc/guides/rel_notes/. 
> See the Release Notes section of the Documentation Guidelines for details.
> https://doc.dpdk.org/guides-18.08/contributing/documentation.html#doc-guidelines
> "Developers should include updates to the Release Notes with patch sets that relate to any of the following sections:
> New Features
> Resolved Issues (see below)
> Known Issues
> API Changes
> ABI Changes
> Shared Library Versions
> Resolved Issues should only include issues from previous releases that have been resolved in the current release. Issues that are introduced and then fixed within a release cycle do not have to be included here."
> 
>      Suggested order in release notes items:
>      * Core libs (EAL, mempool, ring, mbuf, buses)
>      * Device abstraction libs and PMDs

I agree with Honnappa.
You don't need to give details, but can explain that performance of
C11 version is improved.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-02  9:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 131+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-06  1:18 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] ring: fix c11 memory ordering issue Gavin Hu
2018-08-06  9:19 ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-08-08  1:39   ` Gavin Hu
2018-08-07  3:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] " Gavin Hu
2018-08-07  5:56   ` He, Jia
2018-08-07  7:56     ` Gavin Hu
2018-08-08  3:07       ` Jerin Jacob
2018-08-08  7:23         ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-stable] " Thomas Monjalon
2018-09-17  7:47   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/3] app/testpmd: show errno along with flow API errors Gavin Hu
2018-09-17  7:47     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/3] net/i40e: remove invalid comment Gavin Hu
2018-09-17  8:25       ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-09-17  7:47     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/3] doc: add cross compile part for sample applications Gavin Hu
2018-09-17  9:48       ` Jerin Jacob
2018-09-17 10:28         ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-09-17 10:34           ` Jerin Jacob
2018-09-17 10:55             ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-09-17 10:49       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4] " Gavin Hu
2018-09-17 10:53         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5] " Gavin Hu
2018-09-18 11:00           ` Jerin Jacob
2018-09-19  0:33           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6] " Gavin Hu
2018-09-17  8:11     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/4] bus/fslmc: fix undefined reference of memsegs Gavin Hu
2018-09-17  8:11       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/4] ring: read tail using atomic load Gavin Hu
2018-09-20  6:41         ` Jerin Jacob
2018-09-25  9:26           ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-09-17  8:11       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/4] ring: synchronize the load and store of the tail Gavin Hu
2018-09-17  8:11       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 4/4] ring: move the atomic load of head above the loop Gavin Hu
2018-10-27 14:21         ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-stable] " Thomas Monjalon
2018-09-17  8:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/3] ring: read tail using atomic load Gavin Hu
2018-09-17  8:17     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/3] ring: synchronize the load and store of the tail Gavin Hu
2018-09-26  9:29       ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-09-26  9:59         ` Justin He
2018-09-29 10:57       ` Jerin Jacob
2018-10-17  6:29       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/2] " Gavin Hu
2018-10-17  6:29         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/2] ring: move the atomic load of head above the loop Gavin Hu
2018-10-17  6:35         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/2] ring: synchronize the load and store of the tail Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-10-27 14:39           ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-10-27 15:00             ` Jerin Jacob
2018-10-27 15:13               ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-10-27 15:34                 ` Jerin Jacob
2018-10-27 15:48                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-10-29  2:51                   ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-10-29  2:57                   ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-10-29 10:16                     ` Jerin Jacob
2018-10-29 10:47                       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-10-29 11:10                         ` Jerin Jacob
2018-11-03 20:12                 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2018-11-05 21:51                   ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2018-11-06 11:03                     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2018-10-31  3:35         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/2] rte ring c11 bug fix and optimization Gavin Hu
2018-10-31 10:26           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/2] ring library with c11 memory model " Gavin Hu
2018-10-31 16:58             ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-11-01  9:53             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/2] ring: synchronize the load and store of the tail Gavin Hu
2018-11-01  9:53             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/2] ring: move the atomic load of head above the loop Gavin Hu
2018-11-01 17:26               ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-11-02  0:53                 ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-11-02  4:30                   ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2018-11-02  7:15                     ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-11-02  9:36                       ` Thomas Monjalon [this message]
2018-11-02 11:23                         ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-10-31 10:26           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/2] ring: synchronize the load and store of the tail Gavin Hu
2018-10-31 22:07             ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-11-01  9:56               ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-10-31 10:26           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/2] ring: move the atomic load of head above the loop Gavin Hu
2018-10-31  3:35         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/2] ring: synchronize the load and store of the tail Gavin Hu
2018-10-31  3:35         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/2] ring: move the atomic load of head above the loop Gavin Hu
2018-10-31  9:36           ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-10-31 10:27             ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-11-01  9:53         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/2] ring library with c11 memory model bug fix and optimization Gavin Hu
2018-11-02 11:21           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 " Gavin Hu
2018-11-02 11:21           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/2] ring: synchronize the load and store of the tail Gavin Hu
2018-11-05  9:30             ` Olivier Matz
2018-11-02 11:21           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/2] ring: move the atomic load of head above the loop Gavin Hu
2018-11-02 11:43             ` Bruce Richardson
2018-11-03  1:19               ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-11-03  9:34                 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2018-11-05 13:17                   ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-stable] " Thomas Monjalon
2018-11-05 13:41                     ` Jerin Jacob
2018-11-05  9:44                 ` [dpdk-dev] " Olivier Matz
2018-11-05 13:36                   ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-stable] " Thomas Monjalon
2018-09-17  8:17     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/3] " Gavin Hu
2018-09-26  9:29       ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-09-26 10:06         ` Justin He
2018-09-29  7:19           ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-09-29 10:59       ` Jerin Jacob
2018-09-26  9:29     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/3] ring: read tail using atomic load Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-09-26 10:09       ` Justin He
2018-09-29 10:48     ` Jerin Jacob
2018-10-05  0:47       ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-10-05  8:21         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-10-05 11:15           ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-05 11:36             ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-05 13:44               ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-10-05 14:21                 ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-05 15:11                 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2018-10-05 17:07                   ` Jerin Jacob
2018-10-05 18:05                     ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-05 20:06                       ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2018-10-05 20:17                         ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-05 20:29                           ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2018-10-05 20:34                             ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-06  7:41                               ` Jerin Jacob
2018-10-06 19:44                                 ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-06 19:59                                   ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-07  4:02                                   ` Jerin Jacob
2018-10-07 20:11                                     ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-07 20:44                                     ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-08  6:06                                       ` Jerin Jacob
2018-10-08  9:22                                         ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-08 10:00                                           ` Jerin Jacob
2018-10-08 10:25                                             ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-08 10:33                                               ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-10-08 10:39                                                 ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-08 10:41                                                   ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-10-08 10:49                                                 ` Jerin Jacob
2018-10-10  6:28                                                   ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2018-10-10 19:26                                                     ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2018-10-08 10:46                                               ` Jerin Jacob
2018-10-08 11:21                                                 ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-08 11:50                                                   ` Jerin Jacob
2018-10-08 11:59                                                     ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-08 12:05                                                       ` Jerin Jacob
2018-10-08 12:20                                                         ` Jerin Jacob
2018-10-08 12:30                                                           ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-09  8:53                                                             ` Olivier Matz
2018-10-09  3:16                                             ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2018-10-08 14:43                                           ` Bruce Richardson
2018-10-08 14:46                                             ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-08 15:45                                               ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-08  5:27                               ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2018-10-08 10:01                                 ` Ola Liljedahl
2018-10-27 14:17     ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-stable] " Thomas Monjalon

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