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From: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
To: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>,
	"Tyler Retzlaff" <roretzla@linux.microsoft.com>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org, david.marchand@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] eal: provide leading and trailing zero bit count abstraction
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2023 11:09:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1883454.taCxCBeP46@thomas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230106010446.GA18805@linuxonhyperv3.guj3yctzbm1etfxqx2vob5hsef.xx.internal.cloudapp.net>

06/01/2023 02:04, Tyler Retzlaff:
> On Fri, Jan 06, 2023 at 12:10:45AM +0100, Morten Brørup wrote:
> > > From: Tyler Retzlaff [mailto:roretzla@linux.microsoft.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, 5 January 2023 23.06
> > > 
> > > doesn't create a new kind of mess.
> > > 
> > > so i fudged around a bit to see if i could get a happy medium. i ended
> > > up with this.
> > > 
> > > remove include of rte_debug.h from rte_bitops.h
> > > 
> > >   * had to remove the RTE_ASSERT from existing rte_bitops.h functions
> > >   * this breaks a good piece of the cycle debug -> log -> common ->
> > > bitops -> debug
> > >   * deal breaker? i don't think it was right that we were getting all
> > >     of log, common just for using bitops anyway.
> > > 
> > > move pow2 functions from rte_common.h -> rte_pow2ops.h
> > >   * new header includes rte_bitops.h
> > > 
> > > move log2 functions from rte_common.h -> rte_log2ops.h
> > >   * new header includes rte_bitops.h, rte_pow2ops.h
> > > 
> > > include rte_bitops.h, rte_pow2ops.h and rte_log2ops.h back into
> > > rte_common.h
> > > 
> > >   * this is done to reduce the impact of compatibility break by
> > >     continuing to expose the pow2/log2/bitops via rte_common.h
> > > 
> > > so we end up with 3 standalone headers, where the whole tree builds
> > > without having to add a pile of includes for the new headers. we can
> > > later deprecate the exposure of the inline functions when including
> > > rte_common.h
> > > 
> > >   * one caveat is that there was some contamination coming in via the
> > >     removed rte_debug.h where rte_bitops.h was used. so technically
> > >     a break of api too.
> > > 
> > > objections?
> > > 
> > > if this is no good i'll just fold my new functions into rte_common.h
> > > and
> > > leave the mess for the next person, though i am trying not to do that.
> > > 
> > > thanks for the discussion.
> > 
> > Here's some long term thinking: EAL has grown into a trashcan where too much is thrown in. It should only be a thin shim to abstract the underlying hardware and O/S environment. A step in that direction could be splitting the current EAL into a true EAL and a Utils library. Not now, but perhaps some day in a rosy future.
> > 
> > Your proposal effectively makes rte_common.h even bigger by including rte_bitops.h (which was intended for accessing hardware). I am not sure it is a step in the right direction. On the other hand, introducing yet another header file for bit-mathematical functions is probably worse than adding them to rte_bitops.h.
> > 
> > I can't come up with something good myself, but I lean towards simply adding your functions to rte_common.h and live with the existing mess. If you think your proposal is better, I will not object. I'm only voicing my thoughts.
> 
> it's hard when we are starting with something monolithic and trying to
> split it. you always end up with these iterative transitions toward what
> you want because you have to keep some kind of compat.
> 
> > 
> > @Thomas may have another perspective on the matter.
> 
> Thomas any last word after this back and forth?  This change isn't
> necessarily blocking me but is a distraction i'd like to finish/offload.

I think it is better to move all in rte_bitops.h
rte_common must have almost zero dependency.
If log2 and pow2 are based on bitops operations, it is not a bad fit for rte_bitops.h.




  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-06 10:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-23 22:14 [PATCH 0/2] eal: provide leading and trailing zero bit count Tyler Retzlaff
2022-11-23 22:14 ` [PATCH 1/2] eal: provide leading and trailing zero bit count abstraction Tyler Retzlaff
2023-04-03 21:46   ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-11-23 22:14 ` [PATCH 2/2] test/bitcount: add bitcount tests Tyler Retzlaff
2022-11-23 23:43 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] eal: provide leading and trailing zero bit count Tyler Retzlaff
2022-11-23 23:43   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] eal: provide leading and trailing zero bit count abstraction Tyler Retzlaff
2022-11-24 10:17     ` Morten Brørup
2022-11-28 17:13       ` Tyler Retzlaff
2022-11-28 17:22         ` Morten Brørup
2022-11-28 17:27           ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-05  9:04             ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-01-05 17:23               ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-05 17:27                 ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-05 20:57                   ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-05 21:34                     ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-05 22:06                       ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-05 23:10                         ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-06  1:04                           ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-06 10:09                             ` Thomas Monjalon [this message]
2023-01-06 10:00                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-01-05  7:09     ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-05  9:01       ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-01-05 17:21         ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-06  0:32           ` Stephen Hemminger
2023-01-06 11:48             ` Bruce Richardson
2023-01-06 12:41               ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-06 13:40                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-01-06 18:58                   ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-06 20:51                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-01-10  9:18                       ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-01-06 18:47               ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-09  8:50                 ` Bruce Richardson
2023-04-04 21:23       ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-04-05  8:44         ` Bruce Richardson
2023-04-05 15:22           ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-04-05 15:51             ` Bruce Richardson
2023-04-05 17:25               ` Tyler Retzlaff
2022-11-23 23:43   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] test/bitcount: add bitcount tests Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-04 23:46   ` [PATCH v2 0/2] eal: provide leading and trailing zero bit count Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-09 17:36   ` [PATCH v4 0/2] eal: provide leading and trailing zero bit count abstraction Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-09 17:36     ` [PATCH v4 1/2] eal: move bit operation functions from common to bitops header Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-10 13:56       ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-01-09 17:36     ` [PATCH v4 2/2] eal: provide leading and trailing zero bit count abstraction Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-10 13:55       ` Ferruh Yigit
2023-01-10 17:34         ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-10 18:37         ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-10 13:56     ` [PATCH v4 0/2] " Ferruh Yigit
2023-01-06 22:01 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] eal: provide leading and trailing zero bit count Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-06 22:01   ` [PATCH v3 1/3] eal: move bit functions from common to bitops header Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-06 22:01   ` [PATCH v3 2/3] eal: provide leading and trailing zero bit count abstraction Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-06 22:01   ` [PATCH v3 3/3] test/bitcount: add bitcount tests Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-07  8:15     ` Thomas Monjalon
2023-01-09 16:57       ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-09 17:26         ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-07 13:40     ` Morten Brørup
2023-01-09  8:51   ` [PATCH v3 0/3] eal: provide leading and trailing zero bit count Bruce Richardson
2023-01-10 19:38 ` [PATCH v5 0/2] eal: provide leading and trailing zero bit count abstraction Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-10 19:38   ` [PATCH v5 1/2] eal: move bit operation common to bitops header Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-10 19:38   ` [PATCH v5 2/2] eal: provide leading and trailing zero bit count abstraction Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-10 19:46 ` [PATCH v6 0/2] " Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-10 19:46   ` [PATCH v6 1/2] eal: move bit operation common to bitops header Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-10 19:46   ` [PATCH v6 2/2] eal: provide leading and trailing zero bit count abstraction Tyler Retzlaff
2023-01-20 22:14   ` [PATCH v6 0/2] " Tyler Retzlaff
2023-02-02  9:14     ` David Marchand
2023-02-02 10:56       ` David Marchand
2023-02-02 15:57         ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-02-03  9:14           ` David Marchand
2023-02-02 15:56       ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-02-03  9:21         ` David Marchand
2023-04-01  0:45 ` [PATCH v7 0/4] eal: provide abstracted bit counting functions Tyler Retzlaff
2023-04-01  0:45   ` [PATCH v7 1/4] eal: move bit count functions to bitops header Tyler Retzlaff
2023-04-01  0:45   ` [PATCH v7 2/4] eal: provide abstracted bit count functions Tyler Retzlaff
2023-04-01  0:45   ` [PATCH v7 3/4] pipeline: add include of bitops Tyler Retzlaff
2023-04-01  0:45   ` [PATCH v7 4/4] maintainers: add bitcount test under EAL API and common code Tyler Retzlaff
2023-04-01  7:08   ` [PATCH v7 0/4] eal: provide abstracted bit counting functions Morten Brørup
2023-04-04  0:11 ` [PATCH v8 0/3] " Tyler Retzlaff
2023-04-04  0:11   ` [PATCH v8 1/3] eal: move bit count functions to bitops header Tyler Retzlaff
2023-04-04  0:11   ` [PATCH v8 2/3] eal: provide abstracted bit count functions Tyler Retzlaff
2023-04-04  0:11   ` [PATCH v8 3/3] maintainers: add bitcount test under EAL API and common code Tyler Retzlaff
2023-04-04  8:27   ` [PATCH v8 0/3] eal: provide abstracted bit counting functions Bruce Richardson
2023-08-25  8:41   ` David Marchand

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