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From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
To: "François-Frédéric Ozog" <ff@ozog.com>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] Bit spinlocks in DPDK
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 08:36:14 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131220083614.2a996421@nehalam.linuxnetplumber.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <04be01cefd9c$a3c36460$eb4a2d20$@com>

On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 17:00:43 +0100
François-Frédéric Ozog <ff@ozog.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : Thomas Monjalon [mailto:thomas.monjalon@6wind.com]
> > Envoyé : vendredi 20 décembre 2013 16:39
> > À : François-Frédéric Ozog
> > Cc : dev@dpdk.org
> > Objet : Re: [dpdk-dev] Bit spinlocks in DPDK
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > 07/12/2013 18:54, François-Frédéric Ozog :
> > > 1) If the critical section deals with weakly ordered loads then
> > > explicit fencing MUST be used: if not, out of order execution will
> > > just kill your idea of critical section.
> > [...]
> > > So use rte_mb() or rte_wmb() or rte_rmb() where appropriate. I
> > > recommend the rte_unlock code and documentation explains the out of
> > > order execution issues and the conditions they have to be mitigated
> > > with rte*mb(). I wonder if having an explicit mfence in
> > > rte_sinlock_unlock wouldn't be just necessary to avoid "hairy" bugs.
> > > In addition, we would have rte_sinlock_unlock_no_mb used internally
> > > for performance reasons, and usable externally by advanced users.
> > 
> > Using lock prefix is lighter than using memory barrier and have the same
> > effects.
> 
> Well, in general yes BUT Intel states "../.. locked operations serialize all
> outstanding load and store operations ../.. with one exception. Load
> operations that reference weakly ordered memory types (such as the WC memory
> type) may *not* be serialized" in 8.1.2.2 Software Controlled Bus Locking;
> particularly if streaming loads are used (may happen on certain devices
> memory mapped I/O accesses and the compiler generating streaming loads).
> 
> So this comment is essentially for the PMD writers: use the fencing where
> appropriate, even if the lock prefix is there. As I will be the one
> forgetting the rule, I like to have that in the documentation/comments as
> reminders to keep things neat.
> 
> François-Frédéric

I recommend anyone who needs more information read:
  Documentation/memory-barriers.txt
in the Linux kernel source.

      reply	other threads:[~2013-12-20 16:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-06 21:04 Pashupati Kumar
2013-12-06 22:02 ` Thomas Monjalon
2013-12-06 22:12   ` Pashupati Kumar
2013-12-06 22:24     ` Thomas Monjalon
2013-12-06 22:54       ` Pashupati Kumar
2013-12-07 17:54       ` François-Frédéric Ozog
2013-12-19 16:41         ` Thomas Monjalon
2013-12-20 15:39         ` Thomas Monjalon
2013-12-20 16:00           ` François-Frédéric Ozog
2013-12-20 16:36             ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]

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