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From: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>
To: "Doherty, Declan" <declan.doherty@intel.com>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/4] Link Bonding Library
Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 07:33:35 -0400
Message-ID: <20140529113335.GB25784@hmsreliant.think-freely.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <345C63BAECC1AD42A2EC8C63AFFC3ADC13D3327C@IRSMSX101.ger.corp.intel.com>

On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 10:33:00AM +0000, Doherty, Declan wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> > From: Neil Horman [mailto:nhorman@tuxdriver.com] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 6:49 PM
> > To: Doherty, Declan
> > Cc: dev@dpdk.org
> > Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/4] Link Bonding Library
> >
> > On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 04:32:00PM +0100, declan.doherty@intel.com wrote:
> > > From: Declan Doherty <declan.doherty@intel.com>
> > > 
> > > Initial release of Link Bonding Library (lib/librte_bond) with support 
> > > for bonding modes :
> > >  0 - Round Robin
> > >  1 - Active Backup
> > >  2 - Balance l2 / l23 / l34
> > >  3 - Broadcast
> > > 
> > Why make this a separate library?  That requires exposure of yet another API to applications.  Instead, why > not write a PMD that can enslave other PMD's and treat them all as a single interface?  That way this all >  > works with the existing API.
> >
> > Neil
> 
> Hi Neil,
> the link bonding device is essentially a software PMD, and as such supports all the standard PMD APIs, the only new APIs which the link bonding library introduces  are for the control operations of the bonded device which are currently unsupported by the standard PMD API. Operations such as creating, adding/removing slaves, and configuring the modes of operation of the device have no analogous APIs in the current PMD API and required new ones to be created .

Thats really only true in spirit, in the sense that this library transmits and
receives frames like a PMD does.  In practice it doesn't work and isn't
architected the same way.  You don't register the driver using the same method
as the other PMDs, which means that using --vdev on the command line wont work
for this type of device.  It also implies that applications have to be made
specifically aware of the fact that they are using a bonded interface (i.e. they
need to call the bonding setup routines to create the bond).  I would recommend:

1) Register the pmd using the PMD_DRIVER_REGISTER macro, like other PMD's
2) Use the kvargs library to support configuration via the --vdev command line
option, so bonds can be created administratively, rather than just
programatically
3) Separate the command api from the PMD functionality into separate libraries
(use control mbufs to communicate configuration changes to the pmd).  This will
allow users to dynamically load the pmd functionality (without compile or run
time linking requirements), and then optionally use the programatic interface
(or not if they want to save memory)

Regards
Neil

> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-29 11:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 127+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-28 15:32 declan.doherty
2014-05-28 15:32 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/4] " declan.doherty
2014-05-28 16:54   ` Shaw, Jeffrey B
2014-05-29 13:32     ` Doherty, Declan
2014-05-28 15:32 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/4] Link bonding unit tests declan.doherty
2014-05-28 15:32 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/4] Link bonding integration into testpmd declan.doherty
2014-05-28 15:32 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/4] Add Link Bonding Library to Doxygen declan.doherty
2014-05-28 17:49 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/4] Link Bonding Library Neil Horman
2014-05-29 10:33   ` Doherty, Declan
2014-05-29 11:33     ` Neil Horman [this message]
2014-05-29  3:23 ` Cao, Waterman
2014-05-29 10:35   ` Doherty, Declan
2014-06-04 15:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 " declan.doherty
2014-06-04 15:18   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/4] " declan.doherty
2014-06-04 15:18     ` declan.doherty
2014-06-05 15:15     ` Stephen Hemminger
2014-06-06  9:07       ` Doherty, Declan
2014-06-06 15:13         ` Stephen Hemminger
2014-06-09 21:11     ` Eric Kinzie
2014-06-13 14:03       ` Doherty, Declan
2014-06-04 15:18   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/4] Link bonding unit tests, including: - code to generate packet bursts for testing rx and tx functionality of bonded device - virtual/stubbed out ethdev for use as slave ethdev in testing - checkpack fixes declan.doherty
2014-06-04 15:18     ` declan.doherty
2014-06-04 15:18   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/4] Link Bonding Library declan.doherty
2014-06-04 15:18   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/4] Adding link bonding support to testpmd. - Includes the ability to create new bonded devices. - Add /remove bonding slave devices. - Interogate bonded device stats/configuration - Change bonding modes and select balance transmit polices declan.doherty
2014-06-04 15:18   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 4/4] Add Link Bonding Library to Doxygen declan.doherty
2014-06-04 16:10   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/4] Link Bonding Library Doherty, Declan
2014-06-05  8:03   ` De Lara Guarch, Pablo
2014-06-05 11:03   ` Neil Horman
2014-06-06  8:23     ` Doherty, Declan
2014-06-06 14:54       ` Neil Horman
2014-06-13 14:56         ` Doherty, Declan
2014-06-13 15:11           ` Neil Horman
2014-06-06  3:26   ` Cao, Waterman
2014-06-11 16:33   ` Thomas Monjalon
2014-06-13 14:08     ` Doherty, Declan
2014-06-13 15:15       ` Thomas Monjalon
2014-06-13 14:41 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/5] Link Bonding PMD Library Declan Doherty
2014-06-13 14:41   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/5] " Declan Doherty
2014-06-13 14:41   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/5] Link Bonding PMD Library (librte_eal/librte_ether link bonding support changes) Declan Doherty
2014-06-13 16:08     ` Neil Horman
2014-06-13 18:34       ` Doherty, Declan
2014-06-13 19:38         ` Neil Horman
2014-06-16  8:59           ` Doherty, Declan
2014-06-16 11:07             ` Neil Horman
2014-06-16 16:17               ` Richardson, Bruce
2014-06-16 17:47                 ` Neil Horman
2014-06-16 18:07                   ` Richardson, Bruce
2014-06-16 18:09                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2014-06-13 21:59     ` Stephen Hemminger
2014-06-16  7:59       ` Doherty, Declan
2014-06-13 14:42   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/5] Link Bonding PMD Library (Unit Test Suite) Declan Doherty
2014-06-13 14:42   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 4/5] Link Bonding PMD Library (testpmd link bonding API support) Declan Doherty
2014-06-13 14:42   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 5/5] Link Bonding PMD Library (Doxygen Additions) Declan Doherty
2014-06-13 15:20   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/5] Link Bonding PMD Library Neil Horman
2014-06-16 11:18   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/6] Link Bonding Library Declan Doherty
2014-06-18 16:14     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 " Declan Doherty
2014-06-18 16:18       ` Neil Horman
2014-06-24 14:52       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 " Declan Doherty
2014-06-24 16:03         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 " Declan Doherty
2014-06-25 20:07           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 " Declan Doherty
2014-06-26 16:02             ` De Lara Guarch, Pablo
2014-06-26 23:57             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 0/5] link bonding Thomas Monjalon
2014-06-26 23:57               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 1/5] bond: new link bonding library Thomas Monjalon
2014-06-27  0:45                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2014-06-26 23:57               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 2/5] ethdev: add unique name to devices Thomas Monjalon
2014-06-26 23:57               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 3/5] eal: support link bonding device initialization Thomas Monjalon
2014-06-26 23:57               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 4/5] bond: unit tests Thomas Monjalon
2014-06-26 23:57               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 5/5] bond: testpmd support Thomas Monjalon
2014-06-27 10:18               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 0/5] link bonding Declan Doherty
2014-06-27 20:58                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2014-06-29 17:49                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 0/5] link bonding library Declan Doherty
2014-06-30  9:21                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2014-06-30  9:28                     ` Doherty, Declan
2014-07-01 22:01                       ` Thomas Monjalon
2014-06-29 17:49                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 1/5] bond: new " Declan Doherty
2014-06-30  9:13                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2014-06-30 22:29                   ` Robert Sanford
2014-07-01 14:16                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2014-07-01 14:19                     ` Doherty, Declan
2014-07-01 14:26                       ` Thomas Monjalon
2014-06-29 17:49                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 2/5] ethdev: add unique name to devices Declan Doherty
2014-06-29 17:49                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 3/5] eal: support link bonding device initialization Declan Doherty
2014-06-29 17:49                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 4/5] bond: unit tests Declan Doherty
2014-06-30  8:56                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2014-06-29 17:49                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 5/5] bond: testpmd support Declan Doherty
2014-06-27 10:18               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 1/5] bond: new link bonding library Declan Doherty
2014-06-27 10:18               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 2/5] ethdev: add unique name to devices Declan Doherty
2014-06-27 10:18               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 3/5] eal: support link bonding device initialization Declan Doherty
2014-06-27 10:18               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 4/5] bond: unit tests Declan Doherty
2014-06-27 10:18               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 5/5] bond: testpmd support Declan Doherty
2014-06-25 20:07           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 1/6] Link Bonding Library (lib/librte_pmd_bond) Declan Doherty
2014-06-25 20:07           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 2/6] Support for unique interface naming of pmds Declan Doherty
2014-06-25 20:07           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 3/6] EAL support for link bonding device initialization Declan Doherty
2014-06-25 20:07           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 4/6] Link bonding Unit Tests Declan Doherty
2014-06-25 20:07           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 5/6] testpmd link bonding additions Declan Doherty
2014-06-25 20:07           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 6/6] Link Bonding Library doxygen additions Declan Doherty
2014-06-24 16:03         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 1/6] Link Bonding Library (lib/librte_pmd_bond) Declan Doherty
2014-06-24 16:03         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 2/6] Support for unique interface naming of pmds Declan Doherty
2014-06-24 16:03         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 3/6] EAL support for link bonding device initialization Declan Doherty
2014-06-25 13:54           ` Thomas Monjalon
2014-06-25 14:41             ` Doherty, Declan
2014-06-25 16:00               ` Thomas Monjalon
2014-06-25 16:15                 ` Richardson, Bruce
2014-06-24 16:03         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 4/6] Link bonding Unit Tests Declan Doherty
2014-06-24 16:03         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 5/6] testpmd link bonding additions Declan Doherty
2014-06-24 16:03         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 6/6] Link Bonding Library doxygen additions Declan Doherty
2014-06-25 13:43           ` Thomas Monjalon
2014-06-25 14:19             ` Doherty, Declan
2014-06-25 14:23               ` Thomas Monjalon
2014-06-24 14:52       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/6] Link Bonding Library (lib/librte_pmd_bond) Declan Doherty
2014-06-24 14:52       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 2/6] Support for unique interface naming of pmds Declan Doherty
2014-06-24 14:52       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 3/6] EAL support for link bonding device initialization Declan Doherty
2014-06-24 14:52       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 4/6] Link bonding Unit Tests Declan Doherty
2014-06-24 14:52       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 5/6] testpmd link bonding additions Declan Doherty
2014-06-24 14:52       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 6/6] Link Bonding Library doxygen additions Declan Doherty
2014-06-18 16:14     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/6] Link Bonding Library (lib/librte_pmd_bond) Declan Doherty
2014-06-18 16:14     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/6] Support for unique interface naming of pmds Declan Doherty
2014-06-18 16:14     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/6] EAL support for link bonding device initialization Declan Doherty
2014-06-18 16:14     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 4/6] Link bonding Unit Tests Declan Doherty
2014-06-18 16:14     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 5/6] testpmd link bonding additions Declan Doherty
2014-06-18 16:14     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 6/6] Link Bonding Library doxygen additions Declan Doherty
2014-06-16 11:18   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/6] Link Bonding Library (lib/librte_pmd_bond) initial release with support for Mode 0 - Round Robin Mode 1 - Active Backup Mode 2 - Balance -> Supports 3 transmit polices (layer 2, layer 2+3, la Mode 3 - Broadcast Declan Doherty
2014-06-16 11:18   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/6] Support for unique interface naming of pmds Declan Doherty
2014-06-16 11:18   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/6] EAL support for link bonding device initialization Declan Doherty
2014-06-16 11:18   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 4/6] Link bonding Unit Tests Declan Doherty
2014-06-16 11:18   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 5/6] testpmd link bonding additions Declan Doherty
2014-06-16 11:18   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 6/6] Link Bonding Library doxygen additions Declan Doherty

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