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From: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
To: Thomas Monjalon <thomas.monjalon@6wind.com>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] ixgbe: fix icc issue with mbuf initializer
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 13:16:54 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141103131654.GC4840@bricha3-MOBL3> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2987294.1LlcqdoeYZ@xps13>

On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 01:59:16PM +0100, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
> 2014-11-03 12:47, Bruce Richardson:
> > On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 01:31:10PM +0100, David Marchand wrote:
> > > On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Bruce Richardson <
> > > > +#ifdef RTE_MBUF_REFCNT
> > > > +       mb_def.refcnt = 1;
> > > > +#endif
> > > 
> > > I would expect we use rte_mbuf_refcnt_set / rte_mbuf_refcnt_read to access
> > > this "refcnt" field.
> > > This api handles both RTE_MBUF_REFCNT_ATOMIC and ! RTE_MBUF_REFCNT_ATOMIC
> > > configs.
> > > But I suppose this is fine at init time (since the union will initialize
> > > properly the field).
> > 
> > It's a good point, I'll update patch to use the appropriate macro which will clean up the code a bit.
> 
> > > By the way, why do we have this RTE_MBUF_REFCNT_ATOMIC option ?
> > > From my point of view, there is not much use of a refcnt that is not atomic
> > > :-).
> 
> Bruce, I think it's a good question but you didn't answer.
> Maybe we should remove this option to keep only atomic mode.
> 

I didn't answer just because it wasn't directly relevant to the patch. It was not
meant as a snub. :-)

As for why the option is there, it's purely for performance, I suspect. The
cost of doing increments and decrements using atomic operations is far higher
than doing a read-modify-write on a single core. However, the downside is
obviously that you need to know what you are doing if you disable atomic refcnts
and, given that atomic is the default, I reckon we can probably get rid of the
option permanently - unless someone has a use case where they turn off the option,
and can't take the performance hit of the atomic instructions.

As a further asside, if we get the proposed changes made to the zero-copy vhost
implementation - discussed previously[1] - we should hopefully be able to get rid
of the refcnt option too, and leave it permanently enabled.

/Bruce

[1] Discussed in this thread: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.networking.dpdk.devel/7098

  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-03 13:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-03 11:11 Bruce Richardson
2014-11-03 12:31 ` David Marchand
2014-11-03 12:47   ` Bruce Richardson
2014-11-03 12:59     ` Thomas Monjalon
2014-11-03 13:16       ` Bruce Richardson [this message]
2014-11-03 17:01 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] " Bruce Richardson
2014-11-05 21:45   ` Thomas Monjalon
2014-11-28  8:52   ` Cao, Min
2014-11-28  8:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] " Cao, Min

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