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From: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>
To: "Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 10/17] librte_acl: add AVX2 as new rte_acl_classify() method
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 07:40:17 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150106124016.GA29096@hmsreliant.think-freely.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2601191342CEEE43887BDE71AB977258213D1E29@irsmsx105.ger.corp.intel.com>

On Tue, Jan 06, 2015 at 09:57:40AM +0000, Ananyev, Konstantin wrote:
> 
> Hi Neil,
> Any further comments on that one?
> Konstantin
> 
No, I'm good.  You're comment regarding compiler support makes sense (though its
really unfortunate that we have to do that).  Still need to address the ifdefery
around the method array however.
Neil

> > From: dev [mailto:dev-bounces@dpdk.org] On Behalf Of Ananyev, Konstantin
> > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 3:02 PM
> > To: Neil Horman
> > Cc: dev@dpdk.org
> > Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 10/17] librte_acl: add AVX2 as new rte_acl_classify() method
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Neil Horman [mailto:nhorman@tuxdriver.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:28 PM
> > > To: Ananyev, Konstantin
> > > Cc: dev@dpdk.org
> > > Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 10/17] librte_acl: add AVX2 as new rte_acl_classify() method
> > >
> > > On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 07:22:06PM +0000, Ananyev, Konstantin wrote:
> > > > > From: Neil Horman [mailto:nhorman@tuxdriver.com]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 3:33 PM
> > > > > To: Ananyev, Konstantin
> > > > > Cc: dev@dpdk.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 10/17] librte_acl: add AVX2 as new rte_acl_classify() method
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 04:16:48PM +0000, Ananyev, Konstantin wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Neil Horman [mailto:nhorman@tuxdriver.com]
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 8:21 PM
> > > > > > > To: Ananyev, Konstantin
> > > > > > > Cc: dev@dpdk.org
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 10/17] librte_acl: add AVX2 as new rte_acl_classify() method
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 04:33:47PM +0000, Ananyev, Konstantin wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi Neil,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: Neil Horman [mailto:nhorman@tuxdriver.com]
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 4:00 PM
> > > > > > > > > To: Ananyev, Konstantin
> > > > > > > > > Cc: dev@dpdk.org
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 10/17] librte_acl: add AVX2 as new rte_acl_classify() method
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 06:10:52PM +0000, Konstantin Ananyev wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Introduce new classify() method that uses AVX2 instructions.
> > > > > > > > > > From my measurements:
> > > > > > > > > > On HSW boards when processing >= 16 packets per call,
> > > > > > > > > > AVX2 method outperforms it's SSE counterpart by 10-25%,
> > > > > > > > > > (depending on the ruleset).
> > > > > > > > > > At runtime, this method is selected as default one on HW that supports AVX2.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Konstantin Ananyev <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>
> > > > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > > >  lib/librte_acl/Makefile       |   9 +
> > > > > > > > > >  lib/librte_acl/acl.h          |   4 +
> > > > > > > > > >  lib/librte_acl/acl_run.h      |   2 +-
> > > > > > > > > >  lib/librte_acl/acl_run_avx2.c |  58 +++++
> > > > > > > > > >  lib/librte_acl/acl_run_avx2.h | 305 ++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > > > > > > > >  lib/librte_acl/acl_run_sse.c  | 537 +-----------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > >  lib/librte_acl/acl_run_sse.h  | 533 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > > > > > > > >  lib/librte_acl/rte_acl.c      |   5 +-
> > > > > > > > > >  lib/librte_acl/rte_acl.h      |   2 +
> > > > > > > > > >  9 files changed, 917 insertions(+), 538 deletions(-)
> > > > > > > > > >  create mode 100644 lib/librte_acl/acl_run_avx2.c
> > > > > > > > > >  create mode 100644 lib/librte_acl/acl_run_avx2.h
> > > > > > > > > >  create mode 100644 lib/librte_acl/acl_run_sse.h
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > diff --git a/lib/librte_acl/Makefile b/lib/librte_acl/Makefile
> > > > > > > > > > index 65e566d..223ec31 100644
> > > > > > > > > > --- a/lib/librte_acl/Makefile
> > > > > > > > > > +++ b/lib/librte_acl/Makefile
> > > > > > > > > > @@ -45,8 +45,17 @@ SRCS-$(CONFIG_RTE_LIBRTE_ACL) += acl_bld.c
> > > > > > > > > >  SRCS-$(CONFIG_RTE_LIBRTE_ACL) += acl_gen.c
> > > > > > > > > >  SRCS-$(CONFIG_RTE_LIBRTE_ACL) += acl_run_scalar.c
> > > > > > > > > >  SRCS-$(CONFIG_RTE_LIBRTE_ACL) += acl_run_sse.c
> > > > > > > > > > +SRCS-$(CONFIG_RTE_LIBRTE_ACL) += acl_run_avx2.c
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >  CFLAGS_acl_run_sse.o += -msse4.1
> > > > > > > > > > +ifeq ($(CC), icc)
> > > > > > > > > > +CFLAGS_acl_run_avx2.o += -march=core-avx2
> > > > > > > > > > +else ifneq ($(shell \
> > > > > > > > > > +test $(GCC_MAJOR_VERSION) -le 4 -a $(GCC_MINOR_VERSION) -le 6 && echo 1), 1)
> > > > > > > > > > +CFLAGS_acl_run_avx2.o += -mavx2
> > > > > > > > > > +else
> > > > > > > > > > +CFLAGS_acl_run_avx2.o += -msse4.1
> > > > > > > > > > +endif
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This seems broken.  You've unilaterally included acl_run_avx2.c in the build
> > > > > > > > > list above, but only enable -mavx2 if the compiler is at least gcc 4.6.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Actually 4.7 (before that version, as I know,  gcc doesn't support avx2)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >  Unless
> > > > > > > > > you want to make gcc 4.6 a requirement for building,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I believe DPDK is required to be buildable by gcc 4.6
> > > > > > > > As I remember, we have to support it all way down to gcc 4.3.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > you need to also exclude
> > > > > > > > > the file above from the build list.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That means that for  gcc 4.6 and below rte_acl_classify_avx2() would not be defined.
> > > > > > > > And then at runtime, I have to check for that somehow and (re)populate classify_fns[].
> > > > > > > > Doesn't seems like a good way to me.
> > > > > > > There are plenty of ways around that.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > At a minimum you could make the classify_fns array the one place that you need
> > > > > > > to add an ifdef __AVX__ call.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You could also create a secondary definition of rte_acl_classify_avx2, and mark
> > > > > > > it as a weak symbol, which only returns -EOPNOTSUPP.  That would be good, since
> > > > > > > the right thing will just automatically happen then if you don't build the
> > > > > > > actual avx2 classification code
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Instead, I prefer to always build acl_run_avx2.c,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > But you can't do that.  You just said above that you need to support down to gcc
> > > > > > > 4.3.  I see you've worked around that with some additional ifdef __AVX__
> > > > > > > instructions, but in so doing you ignore the possibiity that sse isn't
> > > > > > > supported, so you need to add __SSE__ checks now as well.  ifdeffing that much
> > > > > > > just isn't scalable.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We don't need to worry about compiler without SSE4.1 support.
> > > > > > I believe that all compilers that DDPDK has to build with, do support SSE4.1.
> > > > > > So for SSE4.1 we only has to worry about situation when target CPU doesn't support it
> > > > > > We manage it by runtime selection.
> > > > > > For AVX2 - situation is a bit different: it could be both compiler and target CPU that don't support it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >  And for your effort, you get an AVX2 classification path
> > > > > > > that potentially doesn't actually do vectorized classification.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It really seems better to me to not build the code if the compiler doesn't
> > > > > > > support the instruction set it was meant to enable, and change the
> > > > > > > classification function pointer to something that informs the user of the lack
> > > > > > > of support at run time.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > but for old compilers that don't support AVX2 -
> > > > > > > > rte_acl_classify_avx2() would simply be identical to rte_acl_classify_sse().
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That doesn't make sense to me, for two reasons:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1) What if the machine being targeted doesn't support sse either?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Exactly the same what is happening now on the machine with now SSE4.1 support.
> > > > > > There is absolutely no difference here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2) If an application selects an AVX2 classifier, I as a developer expect to
> > > > > > > either get AVX2 based classification, or an error indicating that I can't do
> > > > > > > AVX2 classification, not a silent performance degradation down to scalar
> > > > > > > classification.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In fact I was considering both variants for compilers not supporting AVX2:
> > > > > > 1. silently degrade to SSE method.
> > > > > > 2. create  a dummy function rte_acl_classify_error() and put it  into classify_fns[RTE_ACL_CLASSIFY_AVX2].
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I choose #1 because it seems like a less distraction for the user -
> > > > > > all would keep working as before, user just wouldn't see any improvement comparing to SSE method.
> > > > > > Again didn't want to spread "ifdef __AVX2__" into rte_acl.c
> > > > > > Though I don't have any strong opinion here.
> > > > > > So if you can provide some good reason why #2 is preferable, I am ok to switch to #2.
> > > > > >
> > > > > Because 2 doesn't require any ifdeffing.  As you note above the problem here is
> > > > > that AVX2 support is both compiler and machine dependent.  If you make a weak
> > > > > symbol version of rte_acl_classify_avx2 that always gets built, then you've
> > > > > reduced the problem to just being compiler support, which you can check in the
> > > > > makefile.
> > > >
> > > > I don't think we'll get rid of ifdefing with #2.
> > > > We'll  remove 2 ifdefs in acl_run_avx2.h, but then we have to introduce 2 new in rte_acl.c instead.
> > > > From my understanding, we we'll need something like that:
> > > >
> > > > static const rte_acl_classify_t classify_fns[] = {
> > > >         [RTE_ACL_CLASSIFY_DEFAULT] = rte_acl_classify_scalar,
> > > >         [RTE_ACL_CLASSIFY_SCALAR] = rte_acl_classify_scalar,
> > > >         [RTE_ACL_CLASSIFY_SSE] = rte_acl_classify_sse,
> > > > +#if (defined __GNUC__ &&  __GNUC__ <= 4 && __GNUC_MINOR__ < 7)
> > > > +      [RTE_ACL_CLASSIFY_AVX2] = rte_acl_classify_error,
> > > > +#else
> > > >       [RTE_ACL_CLASSIFY_AVX2] = rte_acl_classify_avx2,
> > > > +#endif
> > >
> > >
> > > You don't need to do this, you need to use a weak symbol:
> > > static int rte_acl_classify_avx2(...) __attributes__(weak)
> > > {
> > > 	return -EOPNOTSUP
> > > }
> > >
> > >
> > > Then in the rte_acl_avx2.c file define it again without the weak symbol
> > >
> > > That way, you do conditional compilation, and when you do the "real" symbol
> > > overrides the weak one.
> > 
> > Ah yes, you right - not need for ifdef here, thought I still think we need one below, in rte_acl_init().
> > 
> > >
> > > > };
> > > >
> > > > static void __attribute__((constructor))
> > > > rte_acl_init(void)
> > > > {
> > > >         enum rte_acl_classify_alg alg = RTE_ACL_CLASSIFY_DEFAULT;
> > > >
> > > > +#if (defined __GNUC__ &&  __GNUC__ <= 4 && __GNUC_MINOR__ < 7)
> > > >         if (rte_cpu_get_flag_enabled(RTE_CPUFLAG_AVX2))
> > > >                 alg = RTE_ACL_CLASSIFY_AVX2;
> > > >         else if (rte_cpu_get_flag_enabled(RTE_CPUFLAG_SSE4_1))
> > > > +#else
> > > > +      if (rte_cpu_get_flag_enabled(RTE_CPUFLAG_SSE4_1))
> > > >                 alg = RTE_ACL_CLASSIFY_SSE;
> > > > +#endif
> > > >         rte_acl_set_default_classify(alg);
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > Why would you do this, this cpu feature flag definitions aren't matched to
> > > compiler support, it should always be defined.
> > 
> > Because if we don't do this, then on machine that does support AVX2,
> > we'll always set CLASSIFY_AVX2 as default method, no matter was compiler
> > able to produce a proper code for it or not.
> > We should set  CLASSIFY_AVX2 as default method only if both conditions are met:
> > at build time compiler supports AVX2 and target cpu supports AVX2.
> > 
> > Konstantin
> > 
> > >  You should still be able to
> > > check for AVX2 support in code that doesn't support emitting the instruction.
> > >
> > > Neil
> > >
> > > > Correct?
> > > > Konstantin
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >  That in turn I think allows you to remove a
> > > > > > > > > bunch of the ifdeffing that you've done in some of the avx2 specific files.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Actually there are not many of them.
> > > > > > > > One in acl_run_avx2.h and another in acl_run_avx2.c.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2 in acl_run_avx2.h and 1 in rte_acl_osdep_alone.h, which is really 3 more than
> > > > > > > you need if you just do an intellegent weak classifier function defintion.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > grep -n __AVX2__ lib/librte_acl/*.[c,h] | grep -v endif
> > > > > > lib/librte_acl/acl_run_avx2.c:45:#ifdef __AVX2__
> > > > > > lib/librte_acl/acl_run_avx2.h:36:#ifdef __AVX2__
> > > > > >
> > > > > > rte_acl_osdep_alone.h - is a different story.
> > > > > > It needs to be there anyway, as in rte_common_vect.h.
> > > > > > In fact  rte_acl_osdep_alone.h is only needed for cases when RTE_LIBRTE_ACL_STANDALONE=y.
> > > > > > That comes from the old days, when we had to to support building librte_acl library without the rest of DPDK.
> > > > > > I think we don't need it anymore and plan to remove it.
> > > > > > Just thought it should  be in a separate patch.
> > > > > > Konstantin
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Neil
> > > > > >
> > > >
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-06 12:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-14 18:10 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 00/17] ACL: New AVX2 classify method and several other enhancements Konstantin Ananyev
2014-12-14 18:10 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 01/17] app/test: few small fixes fot test_acl.c Konstantin Ananyev
2014-12-14 18:10 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 02/17] librte_acl: make data_indexes long enough to survive idle transitions Konstantin Ananyev
2014-12-14 18:10 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 03/17] librte_acl: remove build phase heuristsic with negative perfomance effect Konstantin Ananyev
2014-12-14 18:10 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 04/17] librte_acl: fix a bug at build phase that can cause matches beeing overwirtten Konstantin Ananyev
2014-12-14 18:10 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 05/17] librte_acl: introduce DFA nodes compression (group64) for identical entries Konstantin Ananyev
2014-12-14 18:10 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 06/17] librte_acl: build/gen phase - simplify the way match nodes are allocated Konstantin Ananyev
2014-12-14 18:10 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 07/17] librte_acl: make scalar RT code to be more similar to vector one Konstantin Ananyev
2014-12-14 18:10 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 08/17] librte_acl: a bit of RT code deduplication Konstantin Ananyev
2014-12-14 18:10 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 09/17] EAL: introduce rte_ymm and relatives in rte_common_vect.h Konstantin Ananyev
2014-12-15 15:56   ` Neil Horman
2014-12-14 18:10 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 10/17] librte_acl: add AVX2 as new rte_acl_classify() method Konstantin Ananyev
2014-12-15 16:00   ` Neil Horman
2014-12-15 16:33     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2014-12-15 20:20       ` Neil Horman
2014-12-16 16:16         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2014-12-17 15:32           ` Neil Horman
2014-12-17 19:22             ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2014-12-17 20:27               ` Neil Horman
2014-12-18 15:01                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2015-01-06  9:57                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2015-01-06 12:40                     ` Neil Horman [this message]
2014-12-17  0:38         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2014-12-14 18:10 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 11/17] test-acl: add ability to manually select RT method Konstantin Ananyev
2014-12-14 18:10 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 12/17] librte_acl: Remove search_sse_2 and relatives Konstantin Ananyev
2014-12-14 18:10 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 13/17] libter_acl: move lo/hi dwords shuffle out from calc_addr Konstantin Ananyev
2014-12-14 18:10 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 14/17] libte_acl: make calc_addr a define to deduplicate the code Konstantin Ananyev
2014-12-14 18:10 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 15/17] libte_acl: introduce max_size into rte_acl_config Konstantin Ananyev
2014-12-14 18:10 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 16/17] libte_acl: remove unused macros Konstantin Ananyev
2014-12-14 18:10 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 17/17] libte_acl: fix compilation issues with RTE_LIBRTE_ACL_STANDALONE=y Konstantin Ananyev
2014-12-16 13:51   ` Neil Horman

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