From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.tuxdriver.com (charlotte.tuxdriver.com [70.61.120.58]) by dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3F5ADE4 for ; Tue, 5 May 2015 15:55:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hmsreliant.think-freely.org ([2001:470:8:a08:7aac:c0ff:fec2:933b] helo=localhost) by smtp.tuxdriver.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1YpdK9-0007Fr-FK; Tue, 05 May 2015 09:55:52 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 May 2015 09:55:42 -0400 From: Neil Horman To: Jim Thompson Message-ID: <20150505135542.GB27259@hmsreliant.think-freely.org> References: <20150501164512.GB27756@hmsreliant.think-freely.org> <20150501173108.GA24714@mhcomputing.net> <533710CFB86FA344BFBF2D6802E602860466B524@SHSMSX101.ccr.corp.intel.com> <20150504174857.GA27496@mhcomputing.net> <924D0FD1-4A1F-4C3E-929C-38C29AED61D7@netgate.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <924D0FD1-4A1F-4C3E-929C-38C29AED61D7@netgate.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) X-Spam-Status: No Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] GitHub sandbox for the DPDK community X-BeenThere: dev@dpdk.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: patches and discussions about DPDK List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2015 13:55:55 -0000 On Mon, May 04, 2015 at 10:25:00PM -0500, Jim Thompson wrote: > > > On May 4, 2015, at 10:12 PM, Wiles, Keith wrote: > > > > > > > > On 5/4/15, 10:48 AM, "Matthew Hall" wrote: > > > >> On Mon, May 04, 2015 at 12:43:48PM +0000, Qiu, Michael wrote: > >>> What mail client do you use? I think mail client supporting thread mode > >>> is important for patch review. > >> > >> Like many UNIX people, I use mutt. > >> > >> My concern is that, if we're making the widespread adoption, usage, and > >> contributions for DPDK dependent on selection or debate of the features > >> of > >> various MUAs, I'm not sure that we're looking at this from the right > >> angle. > >> > >> I'm just trying to figure out how to get DPDK in the place where the most > >> eyeballs are, rather than trying to drag the eyeballs to the place where > >> DPDK > >> is. > > > > +1, I agree with this statement completely and I feel discussions about an > > MUA is non-productive and out of scope. > > +1. I’ve avoided the whole discussion, because … ok, “non-productive and out of scope” is a polite way of saying it. > > jim > > Very well, since you seem to want to avoid talking about ways to get what you want in a workflow, lets go back to where the conversation started: http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/dev/2015-May/017225.html We got into this debate because you wanted to move the project to github, and as supporting reasons, listed a plethora of features that you liked about the site. This entire subtread has been meant to illustrate how you can have the features you want that you see as adventageous in the github environment without actualy moving to github. We've focused on email quote collapsing because we kept responding to one another, though I'm sure we could have the same debate on any one of the workflow features github offers. Can we all agree then, that for the list posted in your email above, any github environmental feature can be recreated with proper tooling, available today, without forcing the github environment on everybody? Further, can we agree that, given that those features are not unique to github, they are not compelling reasons to move the project there? Neil