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From: Yuanhan Liu <yuanhan.liu@linux.intel.com>
To: Thomas Monjalon <thomas.monjalon@6wind.com>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org, Ilya Maximets <i.maximets@samsung.com>,
	Dyasly Sergey <s.dyasly@samsung.com>,
	Flavio Leitner <fbl@sysclose.org>,
	"Xie, Huawei" <huawei.xie@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] vhost-user public struct refactor (was Re: [PATCH RFC 2/4] vhost: make buf vector for scatter RX) local.
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 22:06:33 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160405140633.GP3080@yliu-dev.sh.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1865360.UqzrcfEKI5@xps13>

On Tue, Apr 05, 2016 at 10:37:13AM +0200, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
> 2016-04-05 13:47, Yuanhan Liu:
> > So, I was considering to add vhost-user Tx delayed-copy (or zero copy)
> > support recently, which comes to yet another ABI violation, as we need
> > add a new field to virtio_memory_regions struct to do guest phys addr
> > to host phys addr translation. You may ask, however, that why do we need
> > expose virtio_memory_regions struct to users at all?
> > 
> > You are right, we don't have to. And here is the thing: we exposed way
> > too many fields (or even structures) than necessary. Say, vhost_virtqueue
> > struct should NOT be exposed to user at all: application just need to
> > tell the right queue id to locate a specific queue, and that's all.
> > The structure should be defined in an internal header file. With that,
> > we could do any changes to it we want, without worrying about that we
> > may offense the painful ABI rules.
> > 
> > Similar changes could be done to virtio_net struct as well, just exposing
> > very few fields that are necessary and moving all others to an internal
> > structure.
> > 
> > Huawei then suggested a more radical yet much cleaner one: just exposing
> > a virtio_net handle to application, just like the way kernel exposes an
> > fd to user for locating a specific file. However, it's more than an ABI
> > change; it's also an API change: some fields are referenced by applications,
> > such as flags, virt_qp_nb. We could expose some new functions to access
> > them though.
> > 
> > I'd vote for this one, as it sounds very clean to me. This would also
> > solve the block issue of this patch. Though it would break OVS, I'm thinking
> > that'd be okay, as OVS has dependence on DPDK version: what we need to
> > do is just to send few patches to OVS, and let it points to next release,
> > say DPDK v16.07. Flavio, please correct me if I'm wrong.
> > 
> > Thoughts/comments?
> 
> Do you plan to send a deprecation notice to change API in 16.07?

Yes, I planned to, shortly. Before that, I'd ask for comments first.

	--yliu

  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-05 14:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-19  6:32 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFC 0/4] Thread safe rte_vhost_enqueue_burst() Ilya Maximets
2016-02-19  6:32 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFC 1/4] vhost: use SMP barriers instead of compiler ones Ilya Maximets
2016-02-19  6:32 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFC 2/4] vhost: make buf vector for scatter RX local Ilya Maximets
2016-02-19  7:06   ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-02-19  7:30     ` Ilya Maximets
2016-02-19  8:10       ` Xie, Huawei
2016-04-05  5:47     ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC] vhost-user public struct refactor (was Re: [PATCH RFC 2/4] vhost: make buf vector for scatter RX) local Yuanhan Liu
2016-04-05  8:37       ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-04-05 14:06         ` Yuanhan Liu [this message]
2016-04-06  4:14       ` Flavio Leitner
2016-04-06  4:54         ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-02-19  6:32 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFC 3/4] vhost: avoid reordering of used->idx and last_used_idx updating Ilya Maximets
2016-02-19  6:32 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFC 4/4] doc: add note about rte_vhost_enqueue_burst thread safety Ilya Maximets
2016-02-19  7:10   ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-02-19  8:36     ` Xie, Huawei
2016-02-19  9:05       ` Ilya Maximets
2016-02-22  2:07         ` Xie, Huawei
2016-02-22 10:14           ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-02-23  5:56             ` Xie, Huawei
2016-02-24  5:06               ` Ilya Maximets
2016-02-25  5:12                 ` Xie, Huawei
2016-04-06  5:11 [dpdk-dev] [RFC] vhost-user public struct refactor (was Re: [PATCH RFC 2/4] vhost: make buf vector for scatter RX) local Ilya Maximets
2016-04-06  5:38 ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-04-06  6:00 Ilya Maximets

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