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From: Jerin Jacob <jerin.jacob@caviumnetworks.com>
To: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
Cc: <dev@dpdk.org>, <thomas.monjalon@6wind.com>,
	<hemant.agrawal@nxp.com>, <gage.eads@intel.com>,
	<harry.van.haaren@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/6] eventdev: introduce event driven programming model
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2016 12:25:54 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161214065552.GC21135@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161209151142.GA14536@bricha3-MOBL3.ger.corp.intel.com>

On Fri, Dec 09, 2016 at 03:11:42PM +0000, Bruce Richardson wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 09, 2016 at 02:11:15AM +0530, Jerin Jacob wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 08, 2016 at 09:30:49AM +0000, Bruce Richardson wrote:
> > > On Thu, Dec 08, 2016 at 12:23:03AM +0530, Jerin Jacob wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 04:51:19PM +0000, Bruce Richardson wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 09:22:15AM +0530, Jerin Jacob wrote:
> > > > > I think this might need to be clarified. The device doesn't need to be
> > > > > reconfigured, but does it need to be stopped? In SW implementation, this
> > > > > affects how much we have to make things thread-safe. At minimum I think
> > > > > we should limit this to having only one thread call the function at a
> > > > > time, but we may allow enqueue dequeue ops from the data plane to run
> > > > > in parallel.
> > > > 
> > > > Cavium implementation can change it at runtime without re-configuring or stopping
> > > > the device to support runtime load balancing from the application perspective.
> > > > 
> > > > AFAIK, link establishment is _NOT_ fast path API. But the application
> > > > can invoke it from worker thread whenever there is a need for re-wiring
> > > > the queue to port connection for better explicit load balancing. IMO, A
> > > > software implementation with lock is fine here as we don't use this in
> > > > fastpath.
> > > > 
> > > > Thoughts?
> > > > >
> > > 
> > > I agree that it's obviously not fast-path. Therefore I suggest that we
> > > document that this API should be safe to call while the data path is in
> > > operation, but that it should not be called by multiple cores
> > > simultaneously i.e. single-writer, multi-reader safe, but not
> > > multi-writer safe. Does that seem reasonable to you?
> > 
> > If I understand it correctly, per "event port" their will be ONLY ONE
> > writer at time.
> > 
> > i.e, In the valid case, Following two can be invoked in parallel
> > rte_event_port_link(dev_id, 0 /*port_id*/,..)
> > rte_event_port_link(dev_id, 1 /*port_id*/,..)
> > 
> > But, not invoking rte_event_port_link() on the _same_ event port in parallel
> > 
> > Are we on same page?
> > 
> > Jerin 
> > 
> Not entirely. Since our current software implementation pushes the events
> from the internal queues to the ports, rather than having the ports pull
> the events, the links are tracked at the qid level rather than at the
> port one. So having two link operations on two separate ports at the
> same time could actually conflict for us, because they attempt to modify
> the mappings for the same queue. That's why for us the number of
> simultaneous link calls is important.
> However, given that this is not fast-path, we can probably work around
> this with locking internally. The main ask is that we explicitly

Yes, It is in slow-path. IMO, no harm in adding the lock internally and it
helps the application too.

> document what are the expected safe and unsafe conditions under which
> this call can be made.

As we agreed and it is a norm in DPDK that operation on same queue id
(in our case same port id) _cannot_ not be invoked in parallel.
Apart from the above constrain, Let us know what are other constrains you
want to add(if any).

> 
> /Bruce

  reply	other threads:[~2016-12-14  6:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-18  5:44 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/4] libeventdev API and northbound implementation Jerin Jacob
2016-11-18  5:44 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/4] eventdev: introduce event driven programming model Jerin Jacob
2016-11-23 18:39   ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-11-24  1:59     ` Jerin Jacob
2016-11-24 12:26       ` Bruce Richardson
2016-11-24 15:35       ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-11-25  0:23         ` Jerin Jacob
2016-11-25 11:00           ` Bruce Richardson
2016-11-25 13:09             ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-11-26  0:57               ` Jerin Jacob
2016-11-28  9:10                 ` Bruce Richardson
2016-11-26  2:54             ` Jerin Jacob
2016-11-28  9:16               ` Bruce Richardson
2016-11-28 11:30                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-11-29  4:01                 ` Jerin Jacob
2016-11-29 10:00                   ` Bruce Richardson
2016-11-25 11:59           ` Van Haaren, Harry
2016-11-25 12:09             ` Richardson, Bruce
2016-11-24 16:24   ` Bruce Richardson
2016-11-24 19:30     ` Jerin Jacob
2016-12-06  3:52   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/6] libeventdev API and northbound implementation Jerin Jacob
2016-12-06  3:52     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/6] eventdev: introduce event driven programming model Jerin Jacob
2016-12-06 16:51       ` Bruce Richardson
2016-12-07 18:53         ` Jerin Jacob
2016-12-08  9:30           ` Bruce Richardson
2016-12-08 20:41             ` Jerin Jacob
2016-12-09 15:11               ` Bruce Richardson
2016-12-14  6:55                 ` Jerin Jacob [this message]
2016-12-07 10:57       ` Van Haaren, Harry
2016-12-08  1:24         ` Jerin Jacob
2016-12-08 11:02           ` Van Haaren, Harry
2016-12-14 13:13             ` Jerin Jacob
2016-12-14 15:15               ` Bruce Richardson
2016-12-15 16:54               ` Van Haaren, Harry
2016-12-07 11:12       ` Bruce Richardson
2016-12-08  1:48         ` Jerin Jacob
2016-12-08  9:57           ` Bruce Richardson
2016-12-14  6:40             ` Jerin Jacob
2016-12-14 15:19       ` Bruce Richardson
2016-12-15 13:39         ` Jerin Jacob
2016-12-06  3:52     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/6] eventdev: define southbound driver interface Jerin Jacob
2016-12-06  3:52     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/6] eventdev: implement the northbound APIs Jerin Jacob
2016-12-06 17:17       ` Bruce Richardson
2016-12-07 17:02         ` Jerin Jacob
2016-12-08  9:59           ` Bruce Richardson
2016-12-14  6:28             ` Jerin Jacob
2016-12-06  3:52     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 4/6] eventdev: implement PMD registration functions Jerin Jacob
2016-12-06  3:52     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 5/6] event/skeleton: add skeleton eventdev driver Jerin Jacob
2016-12-06  3:52     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 6/6] app/test: unit test case for eventdev APIs Jerin Jacob
2016-12-06 16:46     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/6] libeventdev API and northbound implementation Bruce Richardson
2016-12-21  9:25     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 " Jerin Jacob
2016-12-21  9:25       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/6] eventdev: introduce event driven programming model Jerin Jacob
2017-01-25 16:32         ` Eads, Gage
2017-01-25 16:36           ` Richardson, Bruce
2017-01-25 16:53             ` Eads, Gage
2017-01-25 22:36               ` Eads, Gage
2017-01-26  9:39                 ` Jerin Jacob
2017-01-26 20:39                   ` Eads, Gage
2017-01-27 10:03                     ` Bruce Richardson
2017-01-30 10:42                     ` Jerin Jacob
2017-02-02 11:18         ` Nipun Gupta
2017-02-02 14:09           ` Jerin Jacob
2017-02-03  6:38             ` Nipun Gupta
2017-02-03 10:58               ` Hemant Agrawal
2017-02-07  4:59                 ` Jerin Jacob
2016-12-21  9:25       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/6] eventdev: define southbound driver interface Jerin Jacob
2017-02-02 11:19         ` Nipun Gupta
2017-02-02 11:34           ` Bruce Richardson
2017-02-02 12:53             ` Nipun Gupta
2017-02-02 13:58               ` Bruce Richardson
2017-02-03  5:59                 ` Nipun Gupta
2016-12-21  9:25       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/6] eventdev: implement the northbound APIs Jerin Jacob
2017-02-02 11:19         ` Nipun Gupta
2017-02-02 14:32           ` Jerin Jacob
2017-02-03  6:59             ` Nipun Gupta
2016-12-21  9:25       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 4/6] eventdev: implement PMD registration functions Jerin Jacob
2017-02-02 11:20         ` Nipun Gupta
2017-02-05 13:04           ` Jerin Jacob
2016-12-21  9:25       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 5/6] event/skeleton: add skeleton eventdev driver Jerin Jacob
2016-12-21  9:25       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 6/6] app/test: unit test case for eventdev APIs Jerin Jacob
2016-11-18  5:45 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/4] eventdev: implement the northbound APIs Jerin Jacob
2016-11-21 17:45   ` Eads, Gage
2016-11-21 19:13     ` Jerin Jacob
2016-11-21 19:31       ` Jerin Jacob
2016-11-22 15:15         ` Eads, Gage
2016-11-22 18:19           ` Jerin Jacob
2016-11-22 19:43             ` Eads, Gage
2016-11-22 20:00               ` Jerin Jacob
2016-11-22 22:48                 ` Eads, Gage
2016-11-22 23:43                   ` Jerin Jacob
2016-11-28 15:53                     ` Eads, Gage
2016-11-29  2:01                       ` Jerin Jacob
2016-11-29  3:43                       ` Jerin Jacob
2016-11-29  5:46                         ` Eads, Gage
2016-11-23  9:57           ` Bruce Richardson
2016-11-23 19:18   ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-11-25  4:17     ` Jerin Jacob
2016-11-25  9:55       ` Richardson, Bruce
2016-11-25 23:08         ` Jerin Jacob
2016-11-18  5:45 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/4] event/skeleton: add skeleton eventdev driver Jerin Jacob
2016-11-18  5:45 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/4] app/test: unit test case for eventdev APIs Jerin Jacob
2016-11-18 15:25 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/4] libeventdev API and northbound implementation Bruce Richardson
2016-11-18 16:04   ` Bruce Richardson
2016-11-18 19:27     ` Jerin Jacob
2016-11-21  9:40       ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-11-21  9:57         ` Bruce Richardson
2016-11-22  0:11           ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-11-22  2:00       ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-11-22  9:05         ` Shreyansh Jain

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