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From: Olivier MATZ <olivier.matz@6wind.com>
To: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] rte_ring features in use (or not)
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 14:20:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170125142052.7989e0ec@glumotte.dev.6wind.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170125121456.GA24344@bricha3-MOBL3.ger.corp.intel.com>

On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 12:14:56 +0000, Bruce Richardson
<bruce.richardson@intel.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> while looking at the rte_ring code, I'm wondering if we can simplify
> that a bit by removing some of the code it in that may not be used.
> Specifically:
> 
> * Does anyone use the NIC stats functionality for debugging? I've
>   certainly never seen it used, and it's presence makes the rest less
>   readable. Can it be dropped?

What do you call NIC stats? The stats that are enabled with
RTE_LIBRTE_RING_DEBUG?

If yes, I was recently thinking almost the same about mempool stats. The
need to enable stats at compilation makes them less usable. On the
other hand, I feel the mempool/ring stats may be useful, for instance
to check if mbufs are used from mempool cache, and not from common pool.

For mempool, my conclusion was:
- Enabling stats (debug) changes the ABI, because it adds a field in
  the structure, this is bad
- enabling stats is not the same than enabling debug, we should have 2
  different ifdefs
- if statistics don't cost a lot, they should be enabled by default,
  because it's a good debug tool (ex: have a stats for each access to
  common pool)

For the ring, in my opinion, the stats could be fully removed.


> * RTE_RING_PAUSE_REP_COUNT is set to be disabled at build time, and
>   so does anyone actually use this? Can it be dropped?

This option looks like a hack to use the ring in conditions where it
should no be used (preemptable threads). And having a compile-time
option for this kind of stuff is not in vogue ;)


> * Who uses the watermarks feature as is? I know we have a sample app
>   that uses it, but there are better ways I think to achieve the same
>   goal while simplifying the ring implementation. Rather than have a
> set watermark on enqueue, have both enqueue and dequeue functions
> return the number of free or used slots available in the ring (in
> case of enqueue, how many free there are, in case of dequeue, how
> many items are available). Easier to implement and far more useful to
> the app.

+1

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-01-25 13:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-25 12:14 Bruce Richardson
2017-01-25 12:16 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-01-25 13:20 ` Olivier MATZ [this message]
2017-01-25 13:54   ` Bruce Richardson
2017-01-25 14:48     ` Bruce Richardson
2017-01-25 15:59       ` Wiles, Keith
2017-01-25 16:57         ` Bruce Richardson
2017-01-25 17:29           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-01-31 10:53             ` Olivier Matz
2017-01-31 11:41               ` Bruce Richardson
2017-01-31 12:10                 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-01-31 13:27                   ` Olivier Matz
2017-01-31 13:46                     ` Bruce Richardson
2017-01-25 22:27           ` Wiles, Keith
2017-01-25 16:39   ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 00/19] ring cleanup and generalization Bruce Richardson
2017-02-14  8:32   ` Olivier Matz
2017-02-14  9:39     ` Bruce Richardson
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 01/19] app/pdump: fix duplicate macro definition Bruce Richardson
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 02/19] ring: remove split cacheline build setting Bruce Richardson
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 03/19] ring: create common structure for prod and cons metadata Bruce Richardson
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 04/19] ring: add a function to return the ring size Bruce Richardson
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 05/19] crypto/null: use ring size function Bruce Richardson
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 06/19] ring: eliminate duplication of size and mask fields Bruce Richardson
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 07/19] ring: remove debug setting Bruce Richardson
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 08/19] ring: remove the yield when waiting for tail update Bruce Richardson
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 09/19] ring: remove watermark support Bruce Richardson
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 10/19] ring: make bulk and burst fn return vals consistent Bruce Richardson
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 11/19] ring: allow enq fns to return free space value Bruce Richardson
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 12/19] examples/quota_watermark: use ring space for watermarks Bruce Richardson
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 13/19] ring: allow dequeue fns to return remaining entry count Bruce Richardson
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 14/19] ring: reduce scope of local variables Bruce Richardson
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 15/19] ring: separate out head index manipulation for enq/deq Bruce Richardson
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 16/19] ring: create common function for updating tail idx Bruce Richardson
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 17/19] ring: allow macros to work with any type of object Bruce Richardson
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 18/19] ring: add object size parameter to memory size calculation Bruce Richardson
2017-02-07 14:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH RFCv3 19/19] ring: add event ring implementation Bruce Richardson

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