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From: Jerin Jacob <jerin.jacob@caviumnetworks.com>
To: Herbert Guan <Herbert.Guan@arm.com>
Cc: Jianbo Liu <Jianbo.Liu@arm.com>, "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] arch/arm: optimization for memcpy on AArch64
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 09:47:43 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171218041742.GA5033@jerin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <HE1PR08MB2809F2080923E14F49A6A735860E0@HE1PR08MB2809.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com>

-----Original Message-----
> Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 02:51:19 +0000
> From: Herbert Guan <Herbert.Guan@arm.com>
> To: Jerin Jacob <jerin.jacob@caviumnetworks.com>
> CC: Jianbo Liu <Jianbo.Liu@arm.com>, "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
> Subject: RE: [PATCH] arch/arm: optimization for memcpy on AArch64
> 
> Hi Jerin,

Hi Herbert,

> > >
> > > Here the value of '64' is not the cache line size.  But for the reason that
> > prefetch itself will cost some cycles, it's not worthwhile to do prefetch for
> > small size (e.g. < 64 bytes) copy.  Per my test, prefetching for small size copy
> > will actually lower the performance.
> >
> > But
> > I think, '64' is a function of cache size. ie. Any reason why we haven't used
> > rte_memcpy_ge16_lt128()/rte_memcpy_ge128 pair instead of
> > rte_memcpy_ge16_lt64//rte_memcpy_ge64 pair?
> > I think, if you can add one more conditional compilation to choose between
> > rte_memcpy_ge16_lt128()/rte_memcpy_ge128 vs
> > rte_memcpy_ge16_lt64//rte_memcpy_ge64,
> > will address the all arm64 variants supported in current DPDK.
> >
> 
> The logic for 128B cache is implemented as you've suggested, and has been added in V3 patch.
> 
> > >
> > > In the other hand, I can only find one 128B cache line aarch64 machine here.
> > And it do exist some specific optimization for this machine.  Not sure if it'll be
> > beneficial for other 128B cache machines or not.  I prefer not to put it in this
> > patch but in a later standalone specific patch for 128B cache machines.
> > >
> > > > > +__builtin_prefetch(src, 0, 0);  // rte_prefetch_non_temporal(src);
> > > > > +__builtin_prefetch(dst, 1, 0);  //  * unchanged *
> >
> > # Why only once __builtin_prefetch used? Why not invoke in
> > rte_memcpy_ge64 loop
> > # Does it make sense to prefetch src + 64/128 * n
> 
> Prefetch is only necessary once at the beginning.  CPU will do auto incremental prefetch when the continuous memory access starts.  It's not necessary to do prefetch in the loop.  In fact doing it in loop will actually break CPU's HW prefetch and degrade the performance.

Yes. But, aarch64 specification does not mandate that all implementation should have HW prefetch
mechanism(ie. it is IMPLEMENTATION DEFINED).
I think, You have provided a good start for memcpy implementation and we
can fine tune it _latter_ based different micro architecture.
Your v3 looks good.


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  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-18  4:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-27  7:49 Herbert Guan
2017-11-29 12:31 ` Jerin Jacob
2017-12-03 12:37   ` Herbert Guan
2017-12-15  4:06     ` Jerin Jacob
2017-12-18  2:51       ` Herbert Guan
2017-12-18  4:17         ` Jerin Jacob [this message]
2017-12-02  7:33 ` Pavan Nikhilesh Bhagavatula
2017-12-03 12:38   ` Herbert Guan
2017-12-03 14:20     ` Pavan Nikhilesh Bhagavatula
2017-12-04  7:14       ` Herbert Guan
2017-12-05  6:02 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] " Herbert Guan
2017-12-18  2:54 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3] " Herbert Guan
2017-12-18  7:43   ` Jerin Jacob
2017-12-19  5:33     ` Herbert Guan
2017-12-19  7:24       ` Jerin Jacob
2017-12-21  5:33   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4] " Herbert Guan
2018-01-03 13:35     ` Jerin Jacob
2018-01-04 10:23       ` Herbert Guan
2018-01-04 10:20 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5] " Herbert Guan
2018-01-12 17:03   ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-15 10:57     ` Herbert Guan
2018-01-15 11:37       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-18 23:54         ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-01-19  6:16           ` [dpdk-dev] 答复: " Herbert Guan
2018-01-19  6:10   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6] arch/arm: optimization for memcpy on ARM64 Herbert Guan
2018-01-20 16:21     ` Thomas Monjalon

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