From: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
To: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org, anatoly.burakov@intel.com, pmatilai@redhat.com,
david.marchand@6wind.com, jia.guo@intel.com, matan@mellanox.com,
konstantin.ananyev@intel.com, stephen@networkplumber.org,
fbl@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] kernel binding of devices + hotplug
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 17:40:46 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180413164046.GD37024@bricha3-MOBL.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2407757.yEAnF6RcS7@xps>
On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 06:31:21PM +0200, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
> It's time to think (again) how we bind devices with kernel modules.
> We need to decide how we want to manage hotplugged devices with DPDK.
>
> A bit of history first.
> There was some code in DPDK for bind/unbind, but it has been removed
> in DPDK 1.7 - http://dpdk.org/commit/5d8751b83
> Copy of the commit message (in 2014):
> "
> The bind/unbind operations should not be handled by the eal.
> These operations should be either done outside of dpdk or
> inside the PMDs themselves as these are their problems.
> "
>
> The question raised at this time (4 years ago) is still under discussion.
> Should we manage binding inside or outside DPDK?
> Should it be controlled in the application or in the OS base?
>
> As you know, we use dpdk-devbind.py.
> This tool lacks two major features:
> - persistent configuration
> - hotplug
>
> If we consider that the DPDK applications should be able to apply its own
> policy to choose the devices to bind, then we need to implement binding
> in the PMD (with EAL helpers).
>
> On the other hand, if we consider that it is the system responsibility,
> then we could choose systemd/udev and driverctl.
>
> The debate is launched!
>
Allow me to nail my colours to the mast early! :-)
I believe it's system not application responsibility.
I also believe I have previously explained my reasons for that choice in
some of the previous email threads.
/Bruce
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-04-13 16:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-04-13 16:31 Thomas Monjalon
2018-04-13 16:40 ` Bruce Richardson [this message]
2018-04-13 17:40 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2018-04-14 20:10 ` Matan Azrad
2018-04-16 8:31 ` Bruce Richardson
2018-04-16 16:11 ` Matan Azrad
2018-04-16 16:57 ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-04-16 17:10 ` Matan Azrad
2018-04-16 17:18 ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-04-16 17:32 ` Matan Azrad
2018-04-16 17:50 ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-04-17 9:23 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-04-17 10:42 ` Matan Azrad
2018-04-17 11:00 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-04-22 11:26 ` Matan Azrad
2018-04-16 9:26 ` Guo, Jia
2018-04-16 16:11 ` Matan Azrad
2018-04-15 5:01 ` Wiles, Keith
2018-04-15 1:48 ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-04-18 14:11 ` Flavio Leitner
2018-04-18 18:17 ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-04-18 18:54 ` Flavio Leitner
2018-04-19 6:04 ` Alejandro Lucero
2018-04-19 8:24 ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-04-19 8:40 ` Bruce Richardson
2018-04-19 9:47 ` Thomas Monjalon
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