From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
To: Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>
Cc: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>,
dev@dpdk.org,
Christian Ehrhardt <christian.ehrhardt@canonical.com>,
Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org>,
Maxime Coquelin <maxime.coquelin@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] igb_uio: fail and log if kernel lock down is enabled
Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 07:39:12 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180517073912.064c0a48@xeon-e3> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9a4178b1-f827-a9a9-ad03-96b8cc31f774@intel.com>
On Thu, 17 May 2018 14:23:46 +0100
Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@intel.com> wrote:
> On 5/16/2018 12:47 PM, Neil Horman wrote:
> > On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 05:56:12PM +0100, Ferruh Yigit wrote:
> >> When EFI secure boot is enabled, it is possible to lock down kernel and
> >> prevent accessing device BARs and this makes igb_uio unusable.
> >>
> >> Lock down patches are not part of the vanilla kernel but they are
> >> applied and used by some distros already [1].
> >>
> >> It is not possible to fix this issue, but intention of this patch is to
> >> detect and log if kernel lock down enabled and don't insert the module
> >> for that case.
> >>
> >> The challenge is since this feature enabled by distros, they have
> >> different config options and APIs for it. This patch is done based on
> >> Fedora and Ubuntu kernel source, may needs to add more distro specific
> >> support.
> >>
> >> [1]
> >> kernel.ubuntu.com/git/ubuntu/ubuntu-artful.git/commit/?id=99f9ef18d5b6
> >> And a few more patches to
> >>
> > What exactly is the error you get when you load the igb_uio module? I ask
> > because, looking at least at the Fedora patches, the BAR registers themselves
> > aren't made unwriteable, its only userspace access through very specific
> > channels that are gated on (things like /proc/bus/pci/...). From what I can see
> > (again, not having looked at other implementations), kernel modules that load
> > successfully should be able to modify bar registers, and otherwise function
> > normally (as to weather they are permitted to load is another question).
>
> This patch is based on understanding on the effect of the lockdown patches, that
> it will disable hardware access from userspace.
> I don't have an environment to test this and indeed I am not very clear about
> effects of the lockdown set.
>
> >
> > The reason I ask this is twofold:
> >
> > 1) if a specific access is failing, that seems like it could be the trigger to
> > use, rather than explicitly checking if the kernel is locked down. I don't see
> > one expressly called, but if you're calling pci_write_config_* somewhere, and
> > getting an EPERM error, thats a reason to fail the loading of igb_uio, based on
> > the fact that you don't have permission to write to the appropriate hardware.
> >
> > 2) Its more than just the igb_uio module that will fail. Any attempt to pass a
> > VF into a guest using user space tools (including the vfio scripts that dpdk
> > includes), should fail. As such, it might be better to have some component in
> > user space test one of the aforementioned restricted paths for writeability.
> > Such an approach would be more generic, and eliminate the need to assemble a set
> > of tests to see if the kernel is locked down. A more generic error message
> > could then be logged and the dpdk could exit gracefully, weather or not igb_uio
> > was loaded.
>
> With the existing patches, expectation is vfio will work but it will only effect
> igb_uio.
>
> >
> > Its probably also important to note here that, this lockdown patch, from my
> > digging, has been carried in Fedora since December of 2016, and its still not
> > made it upstream. Thats not to say that it will never do so, but it suggests
> > that, given the 2 years of out of tree updates its received, there its use is
> > both very specific and limted to users who understand its implications. This
> > probably isn't something to make significant or hard-to-maintain changes to the
> > dpdk (or any other software) over.
>
> Have same expectation that use will be specific and limited, that is why planed
> to change only igb_uio to detect the case and return with a log, instead of
> updating anything in the dpdk.
>
> in igb_uio the plan was just adding simple check, patches being not upstreamed
> added more complexity, but not still I believe it is not significant or
> hard-to-maintain change.
The issue is that igb_uio is not secure since it allows userspace to setup
DMA to any physical address. In lockdown mode, even root is not supposed to be
able to peek and poke arbitrary memory.
Actually, it would make more sense to just have code to block all UIO drivers
in uio.c since uio_pci_generic has the same issue.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-05-17 14:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-05-15 16:56 Ferruh Yigit
2018-05-15 17:47 ` Luca Boccassi
2018-05-16 9:45 ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-05-16 9:56 ` Luca Boccassi
2018-05-15 18:52 ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-05-16 9:53 ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-05-16 10:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] " Ferruh Yigit
2018-05-16 10:50 ` Luca Boccassi
2018-05-16 14:42 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3] " Ferruh Yigit
2018-05-17 11:34 ` Neil Horman
2018-05-17 13:26 ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-05-17 18:16 ` Neil Horman
2018-06-27 14:39 ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-06-29 7:04 ` David Marchand
2018-06-29 9:35 ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-05-16 11:47 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] " Neil Horman
2018-05-17 13:23 ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-05-17 14:39 ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2018-05-17 19:49 ` Neil Horman
2018-05-22 15:23 ` Ferruh Yigit
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