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From: "Liang, Ma" <liang.j.ma@intel.com>
To: Kevin Traynor <ktraynor@redhat.com>
Cc: "Hunt, David" <david.hunt@intel.com>,
	Radu Nicolau <radu.nicolau@intel.com>,
	dev@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/2] lib/librte_power: traffic pattern aware power control
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 14:30:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180913133003.GB6867@sivswdev01.ir.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fbbc0ac4-3132-b0c3-4505-078b9af80112@redhat.com>

Hi Kevin,
     Many thanks for your feedback.
     Please check my comments below. 

On 13 Sep 10:46, Kevin Traynor wrote:
> 
> Thanks for following up. It's allowing it to run without a training
> phase which is what I thought could be problematic from an application
> view, so that's nice. I'm not sure if it's much less effective without
> that training phase etc, but the comment was focused on having a forced
> training phase, so that is resolved now as it is not required.
> 
I have re-worked the patch, therefore,  the simple app will run without training as default option
> I'm still not sure I see the use cases for the options where there *is*
> a training type phase but it's difficult to know and considering it's
> experimental, if you feel there are some potential use cases and
> justification to add it, then fine with me.
> 
However, the Training  still is necessary. 
The mechanism need 2 anchor point. 
1.  The max empty poll the system can reach without any real traffic. 
    That's is Maximum capability we use as a base line. 
2.  When the empty poll number drop to zero, that indicate the system 
    is 100% busy due to always get work to do. 
3.  When the empty poll number drop to certain point(e.g. 30% of Max)
    the mechanism will move to next frequency.

Without the Training phase, it's very hard to use normal traffic payload 
to get the absolute anchor point due to the traffic type, payload size, 
processor micro-arch, cache size etc, too many moving parts. 

I use default value which I think will be OK for mainstream xeon. 
if user use a very different system(e.g. arm), they still need re-run training phase.

the training can be triggered by a parameter option. 

> I have a few comments on the API, which I'll reply directly to the patch.
> 
> thanks,
> Kevin.
> 
> > Regards,
> > Dave.
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-13 13:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-08  9:57 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 " Liang Ma
2018-06-08  9:57 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 2/2] examples/l3fwd-power: simple app update to support new API Liang Ma
2018-06-19 10:31   ` Hunt, David
2018-06-08 15:26 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/2] lib/librte_power: traffic pattern aware power control Liang Ma
2018-06-08 15:26   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/2] examples/l3fwd-power: simple app update to support new API Liang Ma
2018-06-20 14:44     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/2] lib/librte_power: traffic pattern aware power control Liang Ma
2018-06-20 14:44       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/2] examples/l3fwd-power: simple app update to support new API Liang Ma
2018-06-26 11:40         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/2] lib/librte_power: traffic pattern aware power control Radu Nicolau
2018-06-26 11:40           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/2] examples/l3fwd-power: simple app update to support new API Radu Nicolau
2018-06-26 13:03             ` Hunt, David
2018-06-26 13:03           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/2] lib/librte_power: traffic pattern aware power control Hunt, David
2018-06-27 17:33           ` Kevin Traynor
2018-07-05 14:45             ` Liang, Ma
2018-07-12 17:30               ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-09-11  9:19             ` Hunt, David
2018-09-13  9:46               ` Kevin Traynor
2018-09-13 13:30                 ` Liang, Ma [this message]
2018-07-10 16:04           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 " Radu Nicolau
2018-07-10 16:04             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/2] examples/l3fwd-power: simple app update to support new API Radu Nicolau
2018-08-31 15:04             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/4] lib/librte_power: traffic pattern aware power control Liang Ma
2018-08-31 15:04               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 2/4] examples/l3fwd-power: simple app update for new API Liang Ma
2018-08-31 15:04               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 3/4] doc/guides/proguides/power-man: update the power API Liang Ma
2018-08-31 15:04               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 4/4] doc/guides/sample_app_ug/l3_forward_power_man.rst: empty poll update Liang Ma
2018-09-04  1:11               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/4] lib/librte_power: traffic pattern aware power control Yao, Lei A
2018-09-04  2:09               ` Yao, Lei A
2018-09-04 14:10               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 " Liang Ma
2018-09-04 14:10                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 2/4] examples/l3fwd-power: simple app update for new API Liang Ma
2018-09-04 14:10                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 3/4] doc/guides/proguides/power-man: update the power API Liang Ma
2018-09-04 14:10                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 4/4] doc/guides/sample_app_ug/l3_forward_power_man.rst: empty poll update Liang Ma
2018-09-13 10:54                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 1/4] lib/librte_power: traffic pattern aware power control Kevin Traynor
2018-09-13 13:37                   ` Liang, Ma
2018-09-13 14:05                     ` Hunt, David
2018-09-17 13:30                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 " Liang Ma
2018-09-17 13:30                   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 2/4] examples/l3fwd-power: simple app update for new API Liang Ma
2018-09-28 11:19                     ` Hunt, David
2018-10-02 10:18                       ` Liang, Ma
2018-09-17 13:30                   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 3/4] doc/guides/proguide/power-man: update the power API Liang Ma
2018-09-25 12:31                     ` Kovacevic, Marko
2018-09-25 12:44                     ` Kovacevic, Marko
2018-09-28 12:30                     ` Hunt, David
2018-09-17 13:30                   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 4/4] doc/guides/sample_app_ug/l3_forward_power_man.rst: empty poll update Liang Ma
2018-09-25 13:20                     ` Kovacevic, Marko
2018-09-28 12:43                       ` Hunt, David
2018-09-28 12:52                         ` Liang, Ma
2018-09-28 10:47                   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 1/4] lib/librte_power: traffic pattern aware power control Hunt, David
2018-10-02 10:13                     ` Liang, Ma
2018-09-28 14:58                   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 " Liang Ma
2018-09-28 14:58                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 2/4] examples/l3fwd-power: simple app update for new API Liang Ma
2018-09-28 14:58                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 3/4] doc/guides/pro_guide/power-man: update the power API Liang Ma
2018-10-02 13:48                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 1/4] lib/librte_power: traffic pattern aware power control Liang Ma
2018-10-02 13:48                       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 2/4] examples/l3fwd-power: simple app update for new API Liang Ma
2018-10-02 14:23                         ` Hunt, David
2018-10-02 13:48                       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 3/4] doc/guides/pro_guide/power-man: update the power API Liang Ma
2018-10-02 14:24                         ` Hunt, David
2018-10-02 13:48                       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 4/4] doc/guides/sample_app_ug/l3_forward_power_man.rst: update Liang Ma
2018-10-02 14:25                         ` Hunt, David
2018-10-02 14:22                       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 1/4] lib/librte_power: traffic pattern aware power control Hunt, David
2018-10-12  1:59                       ` Yao, Lei A
2018-10-12 10:02                         ` Liang, Ma
2018-10-12 13:22                           ` Yao, Lei A
2018-10-19 10:23                       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 1/5] " Liang Ma
2018-10-19 10:23                         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 2/5] examples/l3fwd-power: simple app update for new API Liang Ma
2018-10-19 10:23                         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 3/5] doc/guides/pro_guide/power-man: update the power API Liang Ma
2018-10-19 10:23                         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 5/5] doc: update release notes for empty poll library Liang Ma
2018-10-19 11:07                         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v12 1/5] lib/librte_power: traffic pattern aware power control Liang Ma
2018-10-19 11:07                           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v12 2/5] examples/l3fwd-power: simple app update for new API Liang Ma
2018-10-19 11:07                           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v12 3/5] doc/guides/pro_guide/power-man: update the power API Liang Ma
2018-10-19 11:07                           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v12 4/5] doc/guides/sample_app_ug/l3_forward_power_man.rst: update Liang Ma
2018-10-19 11:07                           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v12 5/5] doc: update release notes for empty poll library Liang Ma
2018-10-22 12:41                             ` Kovacevic, Marko
2018-10-25 23:39                             ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-10-25 23:22                           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v12 1/5] lib/librte_power: traffic pattern aware power control Thomas Monjalon
2018-10-25 23:32                             ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-10-25 23:54                           ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-10-25 23:55                           ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-10-26 13:34                             ` Liang, Ma
2018-10-01 10:06                   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 4/4] doc/guides/sample_app_ug/l3_forward_power_man.rst: empty poll update Liang Ma
2018-06-14 10:59 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 1/2] lib/librte_power: traffic pattern aware power control Hunt, David
2018-06-18 16:11   ` Liang, Ma

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