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From: Ray Kinsella <mdr@ashroe.eu>
To: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	"Burakov, Anatoly" <anatoly.burakov@intel.com>
Cc: techboard@dpdk.org, Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	dev@dpdk.org, Kevin Traynor <ktraynor@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-techboard]  DPDK ABI/API Stability
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2019 10:04:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5e27f573-bbf5-30f1-73ee-d35fc5191632@ashroe.eu> (raw)
Message-ID: <20190408090421.ef2EzztNLwNQKalsBBnTgkI7-qE-6gjUJgSG4I-7eis@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7166381.CkH77a7QuE@xps>

On 07/04/2019 10:48, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
> 04/04/2019 16:07, Burakov, Anatoly:
>> On 04-Apr-19 1:52 PM, Ray Kinsella wrote:
>>> On 04/04/2019 11:54, Bruce Richardson wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 10:29:19AM +0100, Burakov, Anatoly wrote:
>>>>> On 03-Apr-19 4:42 PM, Ray Kinsella wrote:
[SNIP]
>> So, if we are to cement our core API - we have to make a concrete effort 
>> to specify what goes and what stays, if we want it to be maintainable. 
>> The DPDK 1.0 specification, if you will :)
> 
> "DPDK 1.0 specification", that's a great project name :-)
> 

Honestly - I would say that I am nervous of this.

The definition of a DPDK 1.0 specification as a gate to API stability,
feels like a "great plan tomorrow" instead of a "good plan" today. I
think that getting people to dedicate time to such a specification might
prove problematic and I could see this effort being very time consuming.
It might never get completed.

My preference would be to instead adopt a well-publicised community
timeline for adopting more conservative API maintenance rules.

Perhaps we could give ourselves as a community a time-limited window in
which to address concerns around the API before they become hardened -
perhaps say until DPDK 19.11 LTS, or something of the order of 6 months
to 9 months.

We then would know the timeline when niggles like exposure of internal
structures and mbuf structure needed to be sorted by and could
prioritize accordingly.

Ray K

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-04-08  9:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-03 15:42 [dpdk-dev] " Ray Kinsella
2019-04-03 15:42 ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-03 19:53 ` Luca Boccassi
2019-04-03 19:53   ` Luca Boccassi
2019-04-04  9:29 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-04  9:29   ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-04 10:54   ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-techboard] " Bruce Richardson
2019-04-04 10:54     ` Bruce Richardson
2019-04-04 12:02     ` Luca Boccassi
2019-04-04 12:02       ` Luca Boccassi
2019-04-04 13:05       ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-04 13:05         ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-04 13:10         ` Bruce Richardson
2019-04-04 13:10           ` Bruce Richardson
2019-04-05 13:25           ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-05 13:25             ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-07  9:37             ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-04-07  9:37               ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-04-04 13:21         ` Luca Boccassi
2019-04-04 13:21           ` Luca Boccassi
2019-04-04 12:52     ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-04 12:52       ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-04 14:07       ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-04 14:07         ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-07  9:48         ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-04-07  9:48           ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-04-08  9:04           ` Ray Kinsella [this message]
2019-04-08  9:04             ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-08 10:15             ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-08 10:15               ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-08 13:00               ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-08 13:00                 ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-08 13:38                 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-08 13:38                   ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-08 13:58                   ` David Marchand
2019-04-08 13:58                     ` David Marchand
2019-04-08 14:02                     ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-08 14:02                       ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-08 14:38                       ` David Marchand
2019-04-08 14:38                         ` David Marchand
2019-04-08 15:13                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-04-08 15:13                           ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-04-08 15:49                         ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-08 15:49                           ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-10  8:35                           ` David Marchand
2019-04-10  8:35                             ` David Marchand
2019-04-08 15:50                         ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-08 15:50                           ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-09  9:42                   ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-09  9:42                     ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-14  0:42             ` Neil Horman
2019-04-14  0:42               ` Neil Horman
2019-04-15  9:10               ` Bruce Richardson
2019-04-15  9:10                 ` Bruce Richardson
2019-04-04 15:51     ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-04-04 15:51       ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-04-04 16:37       ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-04 16:37         ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-04 16:56     ` Kevin Traynor
2019-04-04 16:56       ` Kevin Traynor
2019-04-04 19:08       ` Wiles, Keith
2019-04-04 19:08         ` Wiles, Keith
2019-04-04 20:13         ` Kevin Traynor
2019-04-04 20:13           ` Kevin Traynor
2019-04-05 13:30           ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-05 13:30             ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-05 13:29         ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-05 13:29           ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-04  9:47 ` [dpdk-dev] " Kevin Traynor
2019-04-04  9:47   ` Kevin Traynor
2019-04-04 13:16   ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-04 13:16     ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-10  5:14 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-04-10  5:14   ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-04-10  9:03   ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-techboard] " Bruce Richardson
2019-04-10  9:03     ` Bruce Richardson
2019-04-10  9:43   ` [dpdk-dev] " Luca Boccassi
2019-04-10  9:43     ` Luca Boccassi

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