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From: Ray Kinsella <mdr@ashroe.eu>
To: "Burakov, Anatoly" <anatoly.burakov@intel.com>,
	Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
Cc: techboard@dpdk.org, Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	dev@dpdk.org, Kevin Traynor <ktraynor@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-techboard]  DPDK ABI/API Stability
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2019 14:00:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c79ff6e8-6b53-66e9-9e34-76f2f86079f7@ashroe.eu> (raw)
Message-ID: <20190408130013.W396ojC6PvGVKMz6lBOoCwFEzoaa0L25Z3-1U3_JzPc@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e7042d7c-d7d6-1332-ff69-0ff24b300ebd@intel.com>



On 08/04/2019 11:15, Burakov, Anatoly wrote:
> On 08-Apr-19 10:04 AM, Ray Kinsella wrote:
>> On 07/04/2019 10:48, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
>>> 04/04/2019 16:07, Burakov, Anatoly:
>>>> On 04-Apr-19 1:52 PM, Ray Kinsella wrote:
>>>>> On 04/04/2019 11:54, Bruce Richardson wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 10:29:19AM +0100, Burakov, Anatoly wrote:
>>>>>>> On 03-Apr-19 4:42 PM, Ray Kinsella wrote:
>> [SNIP]
[SNIP]
> 
> My worry here is that some API's get more attention than others, but
> requirements for freezing the API/ABI are applicable to all of them.
> 
> Everyone loves discussing specifics of mbufs and dev API's, and I have
> no doubt that DPDK community can arrive at a consensus with regards to
> mbuf format etc. in a timely manner, since everyone has a vested
> interest in those covering their use cases. 
> I have way less confidence
> in us possibly having saner and more maintainable platform
> initialization code, 

I think you are right, however its that same lack of enthusiasm that
would hamper a DPDK 1.0 specification. Similarly I can see a DPDK 1.0
specification effort becoming an endless process, as it would always be
low on DPDK contributors priority list.

Instead I recommend we set an API freeze date to focus peoples minds,
advertise what it means and contributors will respond and look after the
areas they care/are responsible for.

> simply because any attempt to change those will
> likely be met with "please keep all of the old stuff working", which
> gets us right back to where we started.
> 

And to be honest that is a fair enough expectation from them, right?
To Stephen's if we need to break it, let's do it once more and then
never again.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-04-08 13:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-03 15:42 [dpdk-dev] " Ray Kinsella
2019-04-03 15:42 ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-03 19:53 ` Luca Boccassi
2019-04-03 19:53   ` Luca Boccassi
2019-04-04  9:29 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-04  9:29   ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-04 10:54   ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-techboard] " Bruce Richardson
2019-04-04 10:54     ` Bruce Richardson
2019-04-04 12:02     ` Luca Boccassi
2019-04-04 12:02       ` Luca Boccassi
2019-04-04 13:05       ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-04 13:05         ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-04 13:10         ` Bruce Richardson
2019-04-04 13:10           ` Bruce Richardson
2019-04-05 13:25           ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-05 13:25             ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-07  9:37             ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-04-07  9:37               ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-04-04 13:21         ` Luca Boccassi
2019-04-04 13:21           ` Luca Boccassi
2019-04-04 12:52     ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-04 12:52       ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-04 14:07       ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-04 14:07         ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-07  9:48         ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-04-07  9:48           ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-04-08  9:04           ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-08  9:04             ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-08 10:15             ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-08 10:15               ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-08 13:00               ` Ray Kinsella [this message]
2019-04-08 13:00                 ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-08 13:38                 ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-08 13:38                   ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-08 13:58                   ` David Marchand
2019-04-08 13:58                     ` David Marchand
2019-04-08 14:02                     ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-08 14:02                       ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-08 14:38                       ` David Marchand
2019-04-08 14:38                         ` David Marchand
2019-04-08 15:13                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-04-08 15:13                           ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-04-08 15:49                         ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-08 15:49                           ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-10  8:35                           ` David Marchand
2019-04-10  8:35                             ` David Marchand
2019-04-08 15:50                         ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-08 15:50                           ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-09  9:42                   ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-09  9:42                     ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-14  0:42             ` Neil Horman
2019-04-14  0:42               ` Neil Horman
2019-04-15  9:10               ` Bruce Richardson
2019-04-15  9:10                 ` Bruce Richardson
2019-04-04 15:51     ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-04-04 15:51       ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-04-04 16:37       ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-04 16:37         ` Burakov, Anatoly
2019-04-04 16:56     ` Kevin Traynor
2019-04-04 16:56       ` Kevin Traynor
2019-04-04 19:08       ` Wiles, Keith
2019-04-04 19:08         ` Wiles, Keith
2019-04-04 20:13         ` Kevin Traynor
2019-04-04 20:13           ` Kevin Traynor
2019-04-05 13:30           ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-05 13:30             ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-05 13:29         ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-05 13:29           ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-04  9:47 ` [dpdk-dev] " Kevin Traynor
2019-04-04  9:47   ` Kevin Traynor
2019-04-04 13:16   ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-04 13:16     ` Ray Kinsella
2019-04-10  5:14 ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-04-10  5:14   ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-04-10  9:03   ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-techboard] " Bruce Richardson
2019-04-10  9:03     ` Bruce Richardson
2019-04-10  9:43   ` [dpdk-dev] " Luca Boccassi
2019-04-10  9:43     ` Luca Boccassi

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