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From: Olivier Matz <olivier.matz@6wind.com>
To: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
Cc: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>, dev@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] Weird 2 KB MBUF data room requirement
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 14:58:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200710125821.GA5869@platinum> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200710102609.GA684@bricha3-MOBL.ger.corp.intel.com>

Hi,

On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 11:26:09AM +0100, Bruce Richardson wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 10:21:40AM +0200, Morten Brørup wrote:
> > Dear Ethernet PMD developers,
> > 
> > According to rte_mbuf_core.h, RTE_MBUF_DEFAULT_DATAROOM is 2048 bytes because some NICs need at least 2 KB buffer to receive standard Ethernet frames without splitting them into multiple segments.
> > 
> > This is a serious waste of memory, considering that standard Ethernet frames are max 1518 bytes.
> > 
> > How wide spread is this limitation... is it common or a rare exception?
> > 
> > Where is it documented which NICs suffer from this limitation?
> > 
> > Do any Intel NICs suffer from this limitation?
> > 
> > 
> > NB: We are targeting an MBUF total size (incl. memzone element overhead) of 2^N, and this limitation would increase our MBUF total size to 4 KB.
> > 
> > 
> > Med venlig hilsen / kind regards
> > - Morten Brørup
> > 
> 
> AFAIK: the NICs supported by the ixgbe driver only allow the size to be
> specified in KB granularity.
> 
> However, it may be safe to have a driver modification whereby anything over
> 1600 bytes is considered as 2KB if jumbo frame support is disabled. I don't
> think anyone has actually looked into doing so though, or if there are
> other hidden gotchas about attempting to do so.

If I remember well, the niantic NICs (and probably some others) can
have their rx size configured with 512, 1024, 2048, ...
This is the size that should be available from the given data pointer,
i.e. it does not include the headroom.

I suppose that if we configure the NIC with 2K but give less than 2K, the NIC
may write after the buffer when receiving a large packet.


Olivier

  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-10 12:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-10  8:21 Morten Brørup
2020-07-10 10:26 ` Bruce Richardson
2020-07-10 12:58   ` Olivier Matz [this message]
2020-07-10 13:45     ` Morten Brørup

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