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From: Dmitry Kozlyuk <dmitry.kozliuk@gmail.com>
To: Tyler Retzlaff <roretzla@linux.microsoft.com>
Cc: Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>,
	hemant.agrawal@nxp.com,
	Ajit Khaparde <ajit.khaparde@broadcom.com>,
	Jerin Jacob <jerinjacobk@gmail.com>,
	"Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>,
	Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	Andrew Rybchenko <Andrew.Rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru>,
	"Min Hu (Connor)" <humin29@huawei.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"olivier.matz@6wind.com" <olivier.matz@6wind.com>,
	"david.marchand@redhat.com" <david.marchand@redhat.com>,
	"jerinj@marvell.com" <jerinj@marvell.com>,
	"Richardson, Bruce" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] Questions about API with no parameter check
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2021 21:49:24 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210429214924.308a636b@sovereign> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210429161645.GB21799@linuxonhyperv3.guj3yctzbm1etfxqx2vob5hsef.xx.internal.cloudapp.net>

2021-04-29 09:16 (UTC-0700), Tyler Retzlaff:
> On Wed, Apr 07, 2021 at 05:10:00PM +0100, Ferruh Yigit wrote:
> > On 4/7/2021 4:25 PM, Hemant Agrawal wrote:  
> > >>+1
> > >>But are we going to check all parameters?  
> > >
> > >+1
> > >
> > >It may be better to limit the number of checks.
> > >  
> > 
> > +1 to verify input for APIs.
> > 
> > Why not do all, what is the downside of checking all input for control path APIs?  
> 
> why not assert them then, what is the purpose of returning an error to a
> caller for a api contract violation like a `parameter shall not be NULL`
> 
> * assert.h/cassert can be compiled away for those pundits who don't want
>   to see extra branches in their code
>
> * when not compiled away it gives you an immediate stack trace or dump to operate
>   on immediately identifying the problem instead of having to troll
>   through hoaky inconsistently formatted logging.
> 
> * it catches callers who don't bother to check for error from return of
>   the function (debug builds) instead of some arbitrary failure at some
>   unrelated part of the code where the corrupted program state is relied
>   upon.
> 
> we aren't running in kernel, we can crash.

As library developers we can't assume stability requirements at call site.
There may be temporary files to clean up, for example,
or other threads in the middle of their work.

As an application developer I'd hate to get a crash inside a library and
having to debug it. Usually installed are release versions with assertions
compiled away.

Log formatting is the only point I agree with, but it's another huge topic.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-29 18:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-07 11:28 Min Hu (Connor)
2021-04-07 11:40 ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-04-07 11:48   ` Liang Ma
2021-04-07 11:53   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-04-07 13:19     ` Jerin Jacob
2021-04-07 14:40       ` Ajit Khaparde
2021-04-07 15:25         ` Hemant Agrawal
2021-04-07 16:10           ` Ferruh Yigit
2021-04-07 16:26             ` Burakov, Anatoly
2021-04-08  1:06               ` Min Hu (Connor)
2021-04-08  8:22                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2021-04-08  9:00                   ` Min Hu (Connor)
2021-04-29 16:16             ` Tyler Retzlaff
2021-04-29 18:49               ` Dmitry Kozlyuk [this message]
2021-04-30  0:15                 ` Tyler Retzlaff
2021-05-03 15:19                   ` Morten Brørup
2021-05-04  9:36                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2021-05-05 15:58                   ` Tyler Retzlaff

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