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From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
To: Konstantin Ananyev <konstantin.ananyev@huawei.com>
Cc: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>,
	"Konstantin Ananyev" <konstantin.v.ananyev@yandex.ru>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"Bruce Richardson" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	"Jan Viktorin" <viktorin@rehivetech.com>,
	"Ruifeng Wang" <ruifeng.wang@arm.com>,
	"David Christensen" <drc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Stanislaw Kardach" <kda@semihalf.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2] non-temporal memcpy
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2022 09:05:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220729090548.2cdffd4e@hermes.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5e1567fb744841a0915348397a81b99d@huawei.com>

On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 12:13:52 +0000
Konstantin Ananyev <konstantin.ananyev@huawei.com> wrote:

> Sorry, missed that part.
> 
> >   
> > > Another question - who will do 'sfence' after the copying?
> > > Would it be inside memcpy_nt (seems quite costly), or would
> > > it be another API function for that: memcpy_nt_flush() or so?  
> > 
> > Outside. Only the developer knows when it is required, so it wouldn't make any sense to add the cost inside memcpy_nt().
> > 
> > I don't think we should add a flush function; it would just be another name for an already existing function. Referring to the required
> > operation in the memcpy_nt() function documentation should suffice.
> >   
> 
> Ok, but again wouldn't it be arch specific?
> AFAIK for x86 it needs to boil down to sfence, for other architectures - I don't know.
> If you think there already is some generic one (rte_wmb?) that would always produce
> correct instructions - sure let's use it. 
>  
>  

It makes sense in a few select places to use non-temporal copy.
But it would add unnecessary complexity to DPDK if every function in DPDK that could
cause a copy had a non-temporal variant.

Maybe just having rte_memcpy have a threshold (config value?) that if copy is larger than
a certain size, then it would automatically be non-temporal.  Small copies wouldn't matter,
the optimization is more about not stopping cache size issues with large streams of data.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-29 16:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-19 15:26 Morten Brørup
2022-07-19 18:00 ` David Christensen
2022-07-19 18:41   ` Morten Brørup
2022-07-19 18:51     ` Stanisław Kardach
2022-07-19 22:15       ` Morten Brørup
2022-07-21 23:19 ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-07-22 10:44   ` Morten Brørup
2022-07-24 13:35     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-07-24 22:18       ` Morten Brørup
2022-07-29 10:00         ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-07-29 10:46           ` Morten Brørup
2022-07-29 11:50             ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-07-29 17:17               ` Morten Brørup
2022-07-29 22:00                 ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-07-30  9:51                   ` Morten Brørup
2022-08-02  9:05                     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-07-29 12:13             ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-07-29 16:05               ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2022-07-29 17:29                 ` Morten Brørup
2022-08-07 20:40                 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-08-09  9:24                   ` Morten Brørup
2022-08-09 11:53                     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-10-09 16:16                       ` Morten Brørup
2022-07-29 18:13               ` Morten Brørup
2022-07-29 19:49                 ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-07-29 20:26                   ` Morten Brørup
2022-07-29 21:34                     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-08-07 20:20                     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-08-09  9:34                       ` Morten Brørup
2022-08-09 11:56                         ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-08-10 21:05                     ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-08-11 11:50                       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-08-11 16:26                         ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-07-25  1:17       ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-07-27 10:26         ` Morten Brørup
2022-07-27 17:37           ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-07-27 18:49             ` Morten Brørup
2022-07-27 19:12               ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-07-28  9:00                 ` Morten Brørup
2022-07-27 19:52               ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-07-27 22:02                 ` Stanisław Kardach
2022-07-28 10:51                   ` Morten Brørup
2022-07-29  9:21                     ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-08-07 20:25 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-08-09  9:46   ` Morten Brørup
2022-08-09 12:05     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-08-09 15:00       ` Morten Brørup
2022-08-10 11:47         ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-08-09 15:26     ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-08-09 17:24       ` Morten Brørup
2022-08-10 11:59         ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-08-10 12:12           ` Morten Brørup
2022-08-10 11:55       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-08-10 12:18         ` Morten Brørup
2022-08-10 21:20           ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2022-08-11 11:53             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-08-11 22:24               ` Honnappa Nagarahalli

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