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From: Tyler Retzlaff <roretzla@linux.microsoft.com>
To: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Cc: "Thomas Monjalon" <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	"Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>,
	dev@dpdk.org, david.marchand@redhat.com,
	"Bruce Richardson" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
Subject: Re: help with pthread_t deprecation / api changes
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2022 12:06:13 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221209200613.GB19263@linuxonhyperv3.guj3yctzbm1etfxqx2vob5hsef.xx.internal.cloudapp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221209084814.3b1479d5@hermes.local>

hey,

combining the reply to both Thomas and Stephen since i think this series
http://mails.dpdk.org/archives/dev/2022-December/257238.html addresses
both feedback comments.

On Fri, Dec 09, 2022 at 08:48:14AM -0800, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Dec 2022 08:53:57 +0100
> Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net> wrote:
> 
> > > > If some execution environment doesn't support thread names, it could return a string that makes it possible for a human to identify the thread, e.g. the tread id. Again, this is assuming that it is only used for debugging, trace, and similar.  
> > > 
> > > i think this raises a good question. is the purpose of setting a thread name
> > > meant to be something we can use from the application or is it something that
> > > is for debugging diagnostics and may be a best effort?  
> > 

> Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net> wrote:

> I think yes it is only for debugging.
> So best effort looks to be a good approach.
> I'm not sure you need to replace the functions.
> Can you just complete the implementations?

the patch series put forward allows a set / get name per-lcore, where
you get implicit (but not exposed via the eal api) call to underlying
platform thread setname.

the intent here is if you have it and it works you'll get it and if you
don't you won't but the eal doesn't force the application to deal with it
conditionally on a per-platform basis.

> Stephen wrote:
> 
> Surprisingly, thread names are not preserved in core dumps.
> The core dump standard used by Linux does not put thread name in the image.
> Since this is a ELF ABI unlikely to be ever be added.

the patchset addresses this by actually keeping a copy of the name set,
so it will be available in the coredump.

the intent here is to make it available for use by the application i.e.
get that works on all platforms, but also you can actually pull the name
out under a debugger or a dump and does not require any conditional
dancing per-platform by the application.

as an aside there are 2 series up for review that finally clean the
remaining platform-specific thread references from the eal public
interface.

http://mails.dpdk.org/archives/dev/2022-December/257238.html
http://mails.dpdk.org/archives/dev/2022-December/257413.html

the set get name api patch series i'm preparing a v2 for due to some
minor things caught by the ci and an issue with mingw but otherwise if
we can get these in it will unblock a lot of the internal detail
cleanups we've been trying to accomplish.

really appreciate it guys.

thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-09 20:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-30 22:54 Tyler Retzlaff
2022-12-02  1:12 ` Tyler Retzlaff
2022-12-02  8:03   ` Morten Brørup
2022-12-02 19:57     ` Tyler Retzlaff
2022-12-09  7:53       ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-12-09 16:48         ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-12-09 20:06           ` Tyler Retzlaff [this message]
2022-12-09 21:13             ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-12-09 23:49               ` Tyler Retzlaff
2022-12-11  7:50                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-12-12 17:45                   ` Tyler Retzlaff
2022-12-13  8:32                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-12-13 17:38                       ` Tyler Retzlaff
2022-12-13 19:34                         ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-12-13 20:39                           ` Morten Brørup
2022-12-14  0:16                             ` Tyler Retzlaff
2022-12-09 21:14           ` Thomas Monjalon
2022-12-09 22:38             ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-12-09 23:55               ` Tyler Retzlaff

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