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From: Tyler Retzlaff <roretzla@linux.microsoft.com>
To: David Marchand <david.marchand@redhat.com>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org, Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com, Ruifeng.Wang@arm.com,
	thomas@monjalon.net, Maxime Coquelin <maxime.coquelin@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] use C11 memory model GCC builtin atomics
Date: Wed, 24 May 2023 09:05:08 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230524160508.GA9733@linuxonhyperv3.guj3yctzbm1etfxqx2vob5hsef.xx.internal.cloudapp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJFAV8wS8HfSJgn+X_B7ozftjA0mZ4tL0RjRF5WDBGhHYwAiYQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 02:51:50PM +0200, David Marchand wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 4:30 PM Tyler Retzlaff
> <roretzla@linux.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >
> > Replace the use of __sync_<op>_and_fetch and __sync_fetch_and_<op> atomics
> > with GCC C11 memory model __atomic builtins.
> >
> > This series contributes to converging on standard atomics in 23.11 but is
> > kept separate as there may be sensitivity to converting from __sync to the
> > C11 memory model builtins.
> 
> - Looking at the patches, I thought the conversion was rather straightforward.
> But this mention about "sensitivity" stopped me from merging.
> Did I miss some risk with the changes of this series?
> 
> 
> >
> > Tyler Retzlaff (3):
> >   bus/vmbus: use C11 memory model GCC builtin atomics
> >   crypto/ccp: use C11 memory model GCC builtin atomics
> >   eal: use C11 memory model GCC builtin atomics
> >
> >  drivers/bus/vmbus/vmbus_channel.c    |  2 +-
> >  drivers/crypto/ccp/ccp_dev.c         |  6 ++++--
> >  lib/eal/include/generic/rte_atomic.h | 32 ++++++++++++++++----------------
> >  3 files changed, 21 insertions(+), 19 deletions(-)
> 
> 
> - I noticed that the vhost library has been providing an internal
> wrapper for some __sync atomic with older GCC.
> Some details are in the commitlog c16915b87109 ("vhost: improve dirty
> pages logging performance").
> 
> Could it affect the existing legacy API performance?

Yes.

gcc documents that you can replace __sync_<op> with __atomic_<op> using
SEQ_CST ordering.

When the __atomic_<op> builtins were initially introduced they generated
sub-optimal (you can interpret as slower) codegen relative to the
existing __sync_<op> builtins which was fixed in later gcc releases.

I do not know the actual version of gcc, but the commit you reference
indicates GCC_VERSION < 70100 is that boundary.

I (perhaps incorrectly) assumed that if the CI performance tests didn't
indicate a regression that the replacement of the remaining and minimal
use of the legacy API would have negligable impact.

If this is a bad assumption or there are concerns, I could update the series
to do the conditional __sync vs __atomic throughout.

Let me know how you'd like to proceed.

Thanks!

> 
> -- 
> David Marchand

  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-24 16:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-27 14:30 Tyler Retzlaff
2023-03-27 14:30 ` [PATCH 1/3] bus/vmbus: " Tyler Retzlaff
2023-03-27 14:30 ` [PATCH 2/3] crypto/ccp: " Tyler Retzlaff
2023-03-27 14:30 ` [PATCH 3/3] eal: " Tyler Retzlaff
2023-03-27 15:25 ` [PATCH 0/3] " Morten Brørup
2023-05-24 12:51 ` David Marchand
2023-05-24 16:05   ` Tyler Retzlaff [this message]
2023-06-02  4:18     ` Tyler Retzlaff
2023-06-07 16:36       ` David Marchand
2023-06-07 16:46 ` David Marchand

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