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[204.195.112.131]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s5-20020a62e705000000b0068bc014f352sm11352823pfh.7.2023.09.06.16.04.11 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 06 Sep 2023 16:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2023 16:03:57 -0700 From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org> To: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net> Cc: dev@dpdk.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/13] Replace us of term abort Message-ID: <20230906160357.6c63dcaa@hermes.local> In-Reply-To: <20915743.0c2gjJ1VT2@thomas> References: <20230818025249.33994-1-stephen@networkplumber.org> <846708806.0ifERbkFSE@thomas> <20230906123957.6a011244@hermes.local> <20915743.0c2gjJ1VT2@thomas> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: dev@dpdk.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: DPDK patches and discussions <dev.dpdk.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://mails.dpdk.org/options/dev>, <mailto:dev-request@dpdk.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://mails.dpdk.org/archives/dev/> List-Post: <mailto:dev@dpdk.org> List-Help: <mailto:dev-request@dpdk.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://mails.dpdk.org/listinfo/dev>, <mailto:dev-request@dpdk.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: dev-bounces@dpdk.org On Wed, 06 Sep 2023 23:19:23 +0200 Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net> wrote: > 06/09/2023 21:39, Stephen Hemminger: > > On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 18:49:14 +0200 > > Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net> wrote: > > > > > I don't feel the rationale should be followed here. > > > If there are better terms, why not. > > > But really, "abort" is not only medical. > > > And banning this word may be felt as a political position, > > > which is not what we want. > > > > > > I am OK to replace if there is a better word in some contexts, > > > but we should not make it forbidden. > > > > There are two overlapping reasons behind this. > > First, any reference to abortion in the US is a political hot button. > > Sorry that you live in such a country ;) > > > Therefore the recommendation is to avoid the term. > > > > The other reason is that the term may raise some negative feelings > > from people that have had to have an abortion. > > Forbidding the word may be understood as the opposite reason. > That's why I think we should not forbid the word officially. With word choices, it is important to get an answer from the person most likely to be impacted. I.e what would a politically active female in US have to say. Let me ask around to see if it matters.