From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mails.dpdk.org (mails.dpdk.org [217.70.189.124]) by inbox.dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E474252D; Thu, 7 Sep 2023 01:04:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mails.dpdk.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mails.dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D002402B0; Thu, 7 Sep 2023 01:04:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail-pg1-f177.google.com (mail-pg1-f177.google.com [209.85.215.177]) by mails.dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5206A4027D for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2023 01:04:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail-pg1-f177.google.com with SMTP id 41be03b00d2f7-573e0d471ceso293370a12.2 for ; Wed, 06 Sep 2023 16:04:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=networkplumber-org.20230601.gappssmtp.com; s=20230601; t=1694041451; x=1694646251; darn=dpdk.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=0UPLSeEbzNI3cjgxfKxaCrHwojzn/bnERetR1GkcpUg=; b=ax6+ZH594ukgQymbYwc+wtkF28MWeykITuaV1f8zYM3j9oQrfMbA8v4URaF2bjJivt nndCGUT+In34VzsmdlPybx9WqnPiBvS29/jrN7J9I3PaESnCn0KbBG1dy85Hk7ailPGN oO4eiCXb+XxzeSgRL6ja+BdCAe+5QbGoGK2vg2AFGfuf/Uge3Ysj9OMvpps8gzvhKpV7 +umukEhBtnAKVt302Dbg9f0IgUCsRaQQiUy7U+HmXYhoelGnHVvuPsxxFAzWyXXXurZh +zFrJlSctKGdnvYP0Lok7qI1HKxqyISGa/3kVQrVWIcJV0/xerQ0lPIjX+ueANbtsON8 ob7w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1694041451; x=1694646251; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=0UPLSeEbzNI3cjgxfKxaCrHwojzn/bnERetR1GkcpUg=; b=KWWL8JqPzb6tkZP+hep1NeZaz0iT6MXYfYFSJ9fGmIAiKvZSQ5sw/vq9fhqgspG+DK TPwws/Z2sGj/3/GyLaKBJbal5lw+E/ddnQcnHhDn/P97DWM104SAKETqGtLs6tUNicNX ePjKIFtcttXgMIj3IY/bdzlwkMFT3JwnYUgY6VI2P2CNWaFHfASQblLee+xD2PZ1R/Wk 4A369uC7hbtYVwC7I8KktBd9noZdGRQbH07otX2E4jCoFWBEwAkqac/KsyvW3tqE/D6G e8iGsuxN1w+7bA+xV26Se7Zus1tnhgrrp69/Ue70F2aq0qjL0EzshbK/j7dNPoSdtEAw sUcw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yz9k3mJLDM1afWZoJiN1FIxIPe47AHnPgheq0kGPQwc8rGcLuyT QlcjSvk76zp32nxjTz6MAsZcrsO6rA7zL5gifHY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IH7m2VwpAK9IHBlB8fQ6B9nPxUI+3+PWxi19zoYXaw+JPBR+POtkBV/wHF99TXFQc8RB8nR8w== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a20:96d5:b0:136:ea0e:d23 with SMTP id hq21-20020a056a2096d500b00136ea0e0d23mr13484720pzc.11.1694041451401; Wed, 06 Sep 2023 16:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hermes.local (204-195-112-131.wavecable.com. [204.195.112.131]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s5-20020a62e705000000b0068bc014f352sm11352823pfh.7.2023.09.06.16.04.11 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 06 Sep 2023 16:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2023 16:03:57 -0700 From: Stephen Hemminger To: Thomas Monjalon Cc: dev@dpdk.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/13] Replace us of term abort Message-ID: <20230906160357.6c63dcaa@hermes.local> In-Reply-To: <20915743.0c2gjJ1VT2@thomas> References: <20230818025249.33994-1-stephen@networkplumber.org> <846708806.0ifERbkFSE@thomas> <20230906123957.6a011244@hermes.local> <20915743.0c2gjJ1VT2@thomas> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: dev@dpdk.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: DPDK patches and discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: dev-bounces@dpdk.org On Wed, 06 Sep 2023 23:19:23 +0200 Thomas Monjalon wrote: > 06/09/2023 21:39, Stephen Hemminger: > > On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 18:49:14 +0200 > > Thomas Monjalon wrote: > > > > > I don't feel the rationale should be followed here. > > > If there are better terms, why not. > > > But really, "abort" is not only medical. > > > And banning this word may be felt as a political position, > > > which is not what we want. > > > > > > I am OK to replace if there is a better word in some contexts, > > > but we should not make it forbidden. > > > > There are two overlapping reasons behind this. > > First, any reference to abortion in the US is a political hot button. > > Sorry that you live in such a country ;) > > > Therefore the recommendation is to avoid the term. > > > > The other reason is that the term may raise some negative feelings > > from people that have had to have an abortion. > > Forbidding the word may be understood as the opposite reason. > That's why I think we should not forbid the word officially. With word choices, it is important to get an answer from the person most likely to be impacted. I.e what would a politically active female in US have to say. Let me ask around to see if it matters.