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From: Tyler Retzlaff <roretzla@linux.microsoft.com>
To: "Mattias Rönnblom" <hofors@lysator.liu.se>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: RTE lock
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 13:02:25 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240305210225.GA16095@linuxonhyperv3.guj3yctzbm1etfxqx2vob5hsef.xx.internal.cloudapp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0024db51-8b39-4aa7-969a-bde86fe1c764@lysator.liu.se>

On Tue, Mar 05, 2024 at 09:18:20PM +0100, Mattias Rönnblom wrote:
> Shouldn't we have a DPDK-native mutex API, rather than using direct
> POSIX mutex lock calls?

David raised this a while back and the consensus is yes. I admit it's
been on my radar for a long time for the obvious reasons you list below
but with other work hasn't been a priority (yet).

> 
> There are two reasons for this, as I see it
> 1) more cleanly support non-POSIX operating system (i.e., Microsoft
> Windows).
> 2) to discourage mechanical use of spinlocks in places where a
> regular mutex lock is more appropriate.
> 
> I think (and hope) DPDK developers will tend to pick DPDK-native
> rather than other APIs as their first choice.

I spent some time evaluating C11 mutex but it really didn't strike me as
being fit for purpose so I think DPDK-native is probably the only way to
go. If behind the scenes particular locks relied on something standard
for Windows perhaps it could be hidden as an implementation detail.

> 
> For locks, they go for spinlocks, even in control (non-fast
> path/non-packet processing) code paths (e.g., calls made by the
> typical non-EAL thread).
> 
> Using spinlocks to synchronize threads that may be preempted aren't
> great idea.

If you're thinking of looking into this i'd be happy to see it solved.

ty

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-03-05 21:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-05 20:18 Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-05 20:50 ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-03-05 21:02 ` Tyler Retzlaff [this message]
2024-03-07 19:50   ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-07 20:27     ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-03-08  9:44       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-03-06  8:46 ` Morten Brørup

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