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From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
To: "Mattias Rönnblom" <hofors@lysator.liu.se>
Cc: "Bruce Richardson" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	"Mattias Rönnblom" <mattias.ronnblom@ericsson.com>,
	dev@dpdk.org, "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2] eal: provide option to use compiler memcpy instead of RTE
Date: Fri, 31 May 2024 09:50:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240531095050.7bae58b0@hermes.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ff2a72d1-49c5-47ba-b651-c548a8074785@lysator.liu.se>

On Fri, 31 May 2024 07:19:41 +0200
Mattias Rönnblom <hofors@lysator.liu.se> wrote:

> On 2024-05-28 17:09, Bruce Richardson wrote:
> > On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 07:59:36AM -0700, Stephen Hemminger wrote:  
> >> On Tue, 28 May 2024 10:19:15 +0200
> >> Mattias Rönnblom <hofors@lysator.liu.se> wrote:
> >>  
> >>>>      
> >>>
> >>> I've tested this patch some with DSW micro benchmarks, and the result is
> >>> a 2.5% reduction of the DSW+testapp overhead with cc/libc memcpy. GCC 11.4.
> >>>
> >>> We've also run characteristic test suite of a large, real world app.
> >>> Here, we saw no effect. GCC 10.5.
> >>>
> >>> x86_64 in both cases (Skylake and Raptor Lake).
> >>>
> >>> Last time we did the same, there were a noticeable performance
> >>> degradation in both the above cases.
> >>>
> >>> This is not a lot of data points, but I think it we should consider
> >>> making the custom RTE memcpy() implementations optional in the next
> >>> release, and if no-one complains, remove the implementations in the next
> >>> release.  
> >>
> >> Lets go farther.
> >>
> >> 1. Announce that rte_memcpy will be marked deprecated in 24.11 release
> >>
> >> 2. In 24.11 do a global replace of rte_memcpy on the tree.
> >>     And mark rte_memcpy as deprecated.
> >>
> >> 3. In 25.11 it can go away.  
> > 
> > While I'd like us to be able to do so, I believe that to be premature. We
> > need to see where/if there are regressions first, and see about fixing
> > them.
> > 
> > /Bruce  
> 
> Should I turn this RFC into a PATCH?
> 
> Is use_cc_memcpy a good name for the configuration parameter?
> 

I did a slightly more direct test and found a couple of things:
   1. Ena driver is redefining memcpy as rte_memcpy, this should be removed and should have
      been blocked during code review.
   2. A couple of drivers are implicitly expecting simd vector routines to be available.
      This works because rte_memcpy.h includes rte_vect.h.  The fix is to have these
      places include rte_vect.h


  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-31 16:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-27 11:11 [RFC] " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-28  7:43 ` [RFC v2] " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-28  8:19   ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-28  8:27     ` Bruce Richardson
2024-05-28  8:59       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-28  9:07         ` Morten Brørup
2024-05-28 16:17           ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-28 14:59     ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-28 15:09       ` Bruce Richardson
2024-05-31  5:19         ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-31 16:50           ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2024-06-02 11:33             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-28 16:03       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-05-29 21:55         ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-28  8:20   ` Bruce Richardson
2024-06-02 12:39   ` [RFC v3 0/5] Optionally have rte_memcpy delegate to compiler memcpy Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-02 12:39     ` [RFC v3 1/5] event/dlb2: include headers for vector and memory copy APIs Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-05  6:49       ` [PATCH 0/5] Optionally have rte_memcpy delegate to compiler memcpy Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-05  6:49         ` [PATCH 1/5] event/dlb2: include headers for vector and memory copy APIs Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-05  6:49         ` [PATCH 2/5] net/octeon_ep: properly include vector API header file Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-05  6:49         ` [PATCH 3/5] distributor: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-10 14:27           ` Tyler Retzlaff
2024-06-05  6:49         ` [PATCH 4/5] fib: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-10 14:28           ` Tyler Retzlaff
2024-06-05  6:49         ` [PATCH 5/5] eal: provide option to use compiler memcpy instead of RTE Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20  7:24         ` [PATCH v2 0/6] Optionally have rte_memcpy delegate to compiler memcpy Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20  7:24           ` [PATCH v2 1/6] net/fm10k: add missing intrinsic include Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20  9:02             ` Bruce Richardson
2024-06-20  9:28             ` Bruce Richardson
2024-06-20 11:40               ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 11:59                 ` Bruce Richardson
2024-06-20 11:50             ` [PATCH v3 0/6] Optionally have rte_memcpy delegate to compiler memcpy Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 11:50               ` [PATCH v3 1/6] net/fm10k: add missing vector API header include Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 12:34                 ` Bruce Richardson
2024-06-20 17:57                 ` [PATCH v4 00/13] Optionally have rte_memcpy delegate to compiler memcpy Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 17:57                   ` [PATCH v4 01/13] net/i40e: add missing vector API header include Mattias Rönnblom
2024-07-24  7:53                     ` [PATCH v5 0/6] Optionally have rte_memcpy delegate to compiler memcpy Mattias Rönnblom
2024-07-24  7:53                       ` [PATCH v5 1/6] net/octeon_ep: add missing vector API header include Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-20 10:27                         ` [PATCH v6 0/7] Optionally have rte_memcpy delegate to compiler memcpy Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-20 10:27                           ` [PATCH v6 1/7] event/dlb2: include headers for vector and memory copy APIs Mattias Rönnblom
2024-10-09 20:59                             ` Morten Brørup
2024-10-09 22:01                             ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-09-20 10:27                           ` [PATCH v6 2/7] net/octeon_ep: add missing vector API header include Mattias Rönnblom
2024-10-09 21:00                             ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-20 10:27                           ` [PATCH v6 3/7] distributor: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-10-09 21:00                             ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-20 10:27                           ` [PATCH v6 4/7] fib: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-10-09 21:00                             ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-20 10:27                           ` [PATCH v6 5/7] eal: provide option to use compiler memcpy instead of RTE Mattias Rönnblom
2024-10-04  7:52                             ` David Marchand
2024-10-04  9:21                               ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-10-04  9:54                                 ` David Marchand
2024-10-04 12:07                                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2024-10-04  9:27                               ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-09-20 10:27                           ` [PATCH v6 6/7] ci: test compiler memcpy Mattias Rönnblom
2024-10-04  7:56                             ` David Marchand
2024-10-09 21:04                             ` Morten Brørup
2024-09-20 10:27                           ` [PATCH v6 7/7] vhost: optimize memcpy routines when cc memcpy is used Mattias Rönnblom
2024-10-03 11:46                             ` Maxime Coquelin
2024-10-09 21:25                             ` Morten Brørup
2024-10-10 10:29                               ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-10-09 21:57                             ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-10-10 10:35                               ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-07-24  7:53                       ` [PATCH v5 2/6] distributor: add missing vector API header include Mattias Rönnblom
2024-07-24  7:53                       ` [PATCH v5 3/6] fib: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-07-24  7:53                       ` [PATCH v5 4/6] eal: provide option to use compiler memcpy instead of RTE Mattias Rönnblom
2024-07-24  7:53                       ` [PATCH v5 5/6] ci: test compiler memcpy Mattias Rönnblom
2024-07-24  7:53                       ` [PATCH v5 6/6] vhost: optimize memcpy routines when cc memcpy is used Mattias Rönnblom
2024-07-29 11:00                         ` Morten Brørup
2024-07-29 19:27                           ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-07-29 19:56                             ` Morten Brørup
2024-06-20 17:57                   ` [PATCH v4 02/13] net/iavf: add missing vector API header include Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 17:57                   ` [PATCH v4 03/13] net/ice: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 17:57                   ` [PATCH v4 04/13] net/ixgbe: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 17:57                   ` [PATCH v4 05/13] net/ngbe: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 17:57                   ` [PATCH v4 06/13] net/txgbe: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 17:57                   ` [PATCH v4 07/13] net/virtio: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 17:57                   ` [PATCH v4 08/13] net/fm10k: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 17:57                   ` [PATCH v4 09/13] event/dlb2: include headers for vector and memory copy APIs Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 17:57                   ` [PATCH v4 10/13] net/octeon_ep: add missing vector API header include Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 17:57                   ` [PATCH v4 11/13] distributor: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 17:57                   ` [PATCH v4 12/13] fib: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 17:57                   ` [PATCH v4 13/13] eal: provide option to use compiler memcpy instead of RTE Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-21 15:19                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-06-24 10:05                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2024-06-24 17:56                       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-25 13:06                       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-25 13:34                         ` Thomas Monjalon
2024-06-20 18:53                   ` [PATCH v4 00/13] Optionally have rte_memcpy delegate to compiler memcpy Morten Brørup
2024-06-21  6:56                   ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-21  7:04                     ` David Marchand
2024-06-21  7:35                       ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-21  7:41                         ` David Marchand
2024-06-25 15:29                   ` Maxime Coquelin
2024-06-25 15:44                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-06-25 19:27                     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-26  8:37                       ` Maxime Coquelin
2024-06-26 14:58                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-06-26 15:24                           ` Maxime Coquelin
2024-06-26 18:47                             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-26 20:16                               ` Morten Brørup
2024-06-27 11:06                                 ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-27 15:10                                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-06-27 15:23                                     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 11:50               ` [PATCH v3 2/6] event/dlb2: include headers for vector and memory copy APIs Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 11:50               ` [PATCH v3 3/6] net/octeon_ep: add missing vector API header include Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 11:50               ` [PATCH v3 4/6] distributor: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 11:50               ` [PATCH v3 5/6] fib: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 11:50               ` [PATCH v3 6/6] eal: provide option to use compiler memcpy instead of RTE Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20  7:24           ` [PATCH v2 2/6] event/dlb2: include headers for vector and memory copy APIs Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20  9:03             ` Bruce Richardson
2024-06-20  7:24           ` [PATCH v2 3/6] net/octeon_ep: properly include vector API header file Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20 14:43             ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-06-20  7:24           ` [PATCH v2 4/6] distributor: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20  9:13             ` Bruce Richardson
2024-06-20  7:24           ` [PATCH v2 5/6] fib: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-20  9:14             ` Bruce Richardson
2024-06-20 14:43               ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-06-20  7:24           ` [PATCH v2 6/6] eal: provide option to use compiler memcpy instead of RTE Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-02 12:39     ` [RFC v3 2/5] net/octeon_ep: properly include vector API header file Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-02 12:39     ` [RFC v3 3/5] distributor: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-02 12:39     ` [RFC v3 4/5] fib: " Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-02 12:39     ` [RFC v3 5/5] eal: provide option to use compiler memcpy instead of RTE Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-02 20:58       ` Morten Brørup
2024-06-03 17:04         ` Mattias Rönnblom
2024-06-03 17:08           ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-05-29 21:56 ` [RFC] " Stephen Hemminger
2024-06-02 11:30   ` Mattias Rönnblom

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