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From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
To: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
Cc: "Thomas Monjalon" <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	"Tyler Retzlaff" <roretzla@linux.microsoft.com>,
	"Anatoly Burakov" <anatoly.burakov@intel.com>,
	"Bruce Richardson" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	"Maxime Coquelin" <maxime.coquelin@redhat.com>,
	"Chenbo Xia" <chenbox@nvidia.com>,
	"Tomasz Duszynski" <tduszynski@marvell.com>, <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] eal: handle sysconf(_SC_PAGESIZE) negative return value
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2025 15:49:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250628154927.6161b011@hermes.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35E9FD5B@smartserver.smartshare.dk>

On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 18:45:44 +0200
Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com> wrote:

> > From: Thomas Monjalon [mailto:thomas@monjalon.net]
> > Sent: Friday, 27 June 2025 20.30
> > 
> > 27/06/2025 19:49, Morten Brørup:  
> > > > From: Thomas Monjalon [mailto:thomas@monjalon.net]
> > > > Sent: Friday, 27 June 2025 19.35
> > > >
> > > > 27/06/2025 18:38, Morten Brørup:  
> > > > > > From: Thomas Monjalon [mailto:thomas@monjalon.net]
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, 27 June 2025 17.58
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 24/06/2025 10:03, Morten Brørup:  
> > > > > > > +		if ((ssize_t)page_size < 0)
> > > > > > > +			rte_panic("sysconf(_SC_PAGESIZE) failed: %s",
> > > > > > > +					errno == 0 ? "Indeterminate" :  
> > > > > > strerror(errno));
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We don't want more rte_panic().
> > > > > > You could log the problem and return 0 here.
> > > > > > It will be a problem later, but it may allow the application to  
> > > > cleanup  
> > > > > > instead of abrupting crashing.  
> > > > >
> > > > > Disagree.
> > > > > That would be likely to cause crash with division by zero later.
> > > > > Better to fail early.  
> > > >
> > > > Which division by zero?  
> > >
> > > Functions dividing by page size. E.g.:
> > >  
> > https://elixir.bootlin.com/dpdk/v25.03/source/lib/eal/common/eal_common_
> > memory.c#L313  
> > >  
> > > >
> > > > I don't think a library should take this decision on behalf of the  
> > app.  
> > >
> > > I expect lots of things to break if sysconf(_SC_PAGESIZE) fails, so  
> > the purpose of this patch is to centralize error handling here, and only
> > continue/return with non-failing values.  
> > >
> > > Otherwise, everywhere using rte_mem_page_size() or  
> > sysconf(_SC_PAGESIZE) should implement error handling (or ignore
> > errors).  
> > > That's a lot of places, so I'm not going to provide a patch doing  
> > that.
> > 
> > I understand.
> > 
> > The problem is that we don't have an exception mechanism in this
> > language.  
> 
> Yep.
> And everyone assumes sysconf(_SC_PAGESIZE) never fails, which is probably correct, so nobody implemented error handling for it. Not even in rte_mem_page_size().
> Coverity detected the missing error handling, and warns: "Although rte_mem_page_size() is declared to return unsigned int, it may actually return a negative value." This defect applies to all functions calling rte_mem_page_size().
> This patch adds error handling to ensure that rte_mem_page_size() only returns non-negative values, or doesn’t return at all - i.e. fails with rte_panic() - so Coverity is satisfied with callers not implementing error handling for it.
> 
> It would be borderline waste of time fixing all the callers, so I fixed the root cause to satisfy Coverity.
> 
> From an higher level perspective:
> This is a low level EAL function to determine the page size. I would consider it reasonable for such a low level EAL function to never fail.
> If some O/S decides to not have a "system page size", and fail with "Indeterminate", e.g. to support multiple page sizes, we would need to handle that somehow. But let's ignore that until it actually happens, if ever.
> 
> If you are skeptical about this patch 2/3 in the series, we can escalate the discussion to the tech board. If you really hate this patch 2/3, I will honor a NAK from you. The patch is not important for me; I'm just trying to clean up.
> 

In such cases, I look at glibc source and see if handles it or not.
Looks like only used a couple of places there, the result of sysconf(_SC_PAGE_SIZE) is checked
in one of the tests; but is not checked in the loading of locale's.  It expects a valid power of 2
value there.

Ok to just die if value isn't valid.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-28 22:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-10 13:13 [PATCH] eal: handle sysconf() " Morten Brørup
2025-06-12 14:06 ` [PATCH v2] eal: handle sysconf(_SC_PAGESIZE) " Morten Brørup
2025-06-13  9:55   ` Burakov, Anatoly
2025-06-24  8:03 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] " Morten Brørup
2025-06-24  8:03   ` [PATCH v3 1/3] eal/unix: fix log message for madvise() failure Morten Brørup
2025-06-27 15:56     ` Thomas Monjalon
2025-06-27 16:47       ` Morten Brørup
2025-06-27 17:34         ` Thomas Monjalon
2025-06-27 17:51           ` Morten Brørup
2025-06-28 10:11           ` Morten Brørup
2025-06-24  8:03   ` [PATCH v3 2/3] eal: handle sysconf(_SC_PAGESIZE) negative return value Morten Brørup
2025-06-27 15:58     ` Thomas Monjalon
2025-06-27 16:38       ` Morten Brørup
2025-06-27 17:35         ` Thomas Monjalon
2025-06-27 17:49           ` Morten Brørup
2025-06-27 18:30             ` Thomas Monjalon
2025-06-28 16:45               ` Morten Brørup
2025-06-28 22:49                 ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2025-06-24  8:03   ` [PATCH v3 3/3] pmu: " Morten Brørup

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