From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mails.dpdk.org (mails.dpdk.org [217.70.189.124]) by inbox.dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1534252C; Wed, 6 Sep 2023 23:19:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mails.dpdk.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mails.dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C5B2402AE; Wed, 6 Sep 2023 23:19:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wout5-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout5-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.21]) by mails.dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14D59402A9 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2023 23:19:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 361F932009B0; Wed, 6 Sep 2023 17:19:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 06 Sep 2023 17:19:27 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=monjalon.net; h= cc:cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:content-type:date :date:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :references:reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to; s=fm1; t= 1694035166; x=1694121566; bh=5OQFIbPJKFUUE7ogFQk7ZEolDOr32k76AVT poohy7uY=; b=ZFlPPRICTD80E5cz39t3R1CaFuIoatMDJHLPapoevjMgmoLjYvE /xWTbohz2UvxgrbONK2r3+hbul89IfWFZ5YWQbV90S4cBSaHP4QVSQfJVIzt9805 tg/yC31LYxgNaqAjgYVVtt4NU3+e+V5R5uOEU+30sxdFoFVP1HmhQyvyl3l2rAGr oSssPjql3Fhl6Px++76jg7JfjtWsizoMGnhSV9CWXDTNVhPaO7jGAM3KnhPDlEyn isYkxmQou62H/8DGvZu1PI9kAZgU3W4NGSVsxn9+cpAt44F9mw5QZqL4ZgTtUB0E muqJ6YId1ERaUvA3IrjxWkq9SXw39sN0bUw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:content-type:date:date:feedback-id:feedback-id :from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :references:reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; t= 1694035166; x=1694121566; bh=5OQFIbPJKFUUE7ogFQk7ZEolDOr32k76AVT poohy7uY=; b=pxxcQxnKZ67G7n7ztYK/kQTgbhweuXGNnFGtBgNoWiLGt2wwMcQ lPJe6Lp8kJUKOd2TWYApE0tO5dAD5qC9dhmG88shfGpM/9LcmKz+EwHMcgB6MNzR q8FvFIgIEah2vVAeOospYG0R8z4MEzcARMkIqHZ5J5f7aKEcqIWc/x4s5ZfQ94Cz Pza6NS6gIjVUxUUMVVL7jxLgeUsFWkzc3IF8C6LTQDda/LLobT7n/baCfCDkRfIC mVHceNGZJBxgKPO9XMd25neLY/+rDyObtqSoKbltJ1R3qkeV8cmHf+0BJrDh/pJD xhnUTD2ZkMcIQXxODzK2rKzCalRcKIRFnKA== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedviedrudehfedgudehlecutefuodetggdotefrod ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfgh necuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmd enucfjughrpefhvfevufffkfgjfhgggfgtsehtufertddttddvnecuhfhrohhmpefvhhho mhgrshcuofhonhhjrghlohhnuceothhhohhmrghssehmohhnjhgrlhhonhdrnhgvtheqne cuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepffeuueejtdehgefhhfelteelgeduheffhffffeevteefgeei vedugfelheffgedvnecuffhomhgrihhnpegvthihmhhonhhlihhnvgdrtghomhdpmhgvrh hrihgrmhdqfigvsghsthgvrhdrtghomhenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgr rhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehthhhomhgrshesmhhonhhjrghlohhnrdhnvght X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i47234305:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Wed, 6 Sep 2023 17:19:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas Monjalon To: Stephen Hemminger Cc: dev@dpdk.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/13] Replace us of term abort Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2023 23:19:23 +0200 Message-ID: <20915743.0c2gjJ1VT2@thomas> In-Reply-To: <20230906123957.6a011244@hermes.local> References: <20230818025249.33994-1-stephen@networkplumber.org> <846708806.0ifERbkFSE@thomas> <20230906123957.6a011244@hermes.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-BeenThere: dev@dpdk.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: DPDK patches and discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: dev-bounces@dpdk.org 06/09/2023 21:39, Stephen Hemminger: > On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 18:49:14 +0200 > Thomas Monjalon wrote: > > > I don't feel the rationale should be followed here. > > If there are better terms, why not. > > But really, "abort" is not only medical. > > And banning this word may be felt as a political position, > > which is not what we want. > > > > I am OK to replace if there is a better word in some contexts, > > but we should not make it forbidden. > > There are two overlapping reasons behind this. > First, any reference to abortion in the US is a political hot button. Sorry that you live in such a country ;) > Therefore the recommendation is to avoid the term. > > The other reason is that the term may raise some negative feelings > from people that have had to have an abortion. Forbidding the word may be understood as the opposite reason. That's why I think we should not forbid the word officially. > According to the etymology sites and dictionary sites > I looked at the term comes from a strictly medical point of view: > https://www.etymonline.com/word/abortion > https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/abort > It looks like the secondary meaning in computer science came later. > It would be best if the term could be avoid if possible. If there are better alternatives, let's use them for the only reason they are better understood in their respective context.