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From: "Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>
To: "Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)" <Gavin.Hu@arm.com>,
	Ilya Maximets <i.maximets@samsung.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Cc: nd <nd@arm.com>, "thomas@monjalon.net" <thomas@monjalon.net>,
	"jerinj@marvell.com" <jerinj@marvell.com>,
	"hemant.agrawal@nxp.com" <hemant.agrawal@nxp.com>,
	"Nipun.gupta@nxp.com" <nipun.gupta@nxp.com>,
	Honnappa Nagarahalli <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>,
	"olivier.matz@6wind.com" <olivier.matz@6wind.com>,
	"Richardson, Bruce" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	"chaozhu@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <chaozhu@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] ring: enforce reading the tails before ring operations
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2019 12:13:25 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2601191342CEEE43887BDE71AB9772580136556E78@irsmsx105.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR08MB316709E23B7150B420B906E48F4D0@VI1PR08MB3167.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China) [mailto:Gavin.Hu@arm.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 8, 2019 4:23 AM
> To: Ilya Maximets <i.maximets@samsung.com>; dev@dpdk.org
> Cc: nd <nd@arm.com>; thomas@monjalon.net; jerinj@marvell.com; hemant.agrawal@nxp.com; Nipun.gupta@nxp.com; Honnappa
> Nagarahalli <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>; olivier.matz@6wind.com; Richardson, Bruce <bruce.richardson@intel.com>; Ananyev,
> Konstantin <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>; chaozhu@linux.vnet.ibm.com
> Subject: RE: [PATCH v2] ring: enforce reading the tails before ring operations
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
> > Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 6:45 PM
> > To: Ilya Maximets <i.maximets@samsung.com>; dev@dpdk.org
> > Cc: nd <nd@arm.com>; thomas@monjalon.net; jerinj@marvell.com;
> > hemant.agrawal@nxp.com; Nipun.gupta@nxp.com; Honnappa Nagarahalli
> > <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>; olivier.matz@6wind.com;
> > bruce.richardson@intel.com; konstantin.ananyev@intel.com;
> > chaozhu@linux.vnet.ibm.com
> > Subject: RE: [PATCH v2] ring: enforce reading the tails before ring operations
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ilya Maximets <i.maximets@samsung.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 5:48 PM
> > > To: Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China) <Gavin.Hu@arm.com>;
> > dev@dpdk.org
> > > Cc: nd <nd@arm.com>; thomas@monjalon.net; jerinj@marvell.com;
> > > hemant.agrawal@nxp.com; Nipun.gupta@nxp.com; Honnappa Nagarahalli
> > > <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>; olivier.matz@6wind.com
> > > Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] ring: enforce reading the tails before ring
> > > operations
> > >
> > > On 07.03.2019 12:27, Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China) wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Ilya Maximets <i.maximets@samsung.com>
> > > >> Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 4:52 PM
> > > >> To: Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China) <Gavin.Hu@arm.com>;
> > > >> dev@dpdk.org
> > > >> Cc: nd <nd@arm.com>; thomas@monjalon.net; jerinj@marvell.com;
> > > >> hemant.agrawal@nxp.com; Nipun.gupta@nxp.com; Honnappa
> > Nagarahalli
> > > >> <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>; olivier.matz@6wind.com
> > > >> Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] ring: enforce reading the tails before ring
> > > >> operations
> > > >>
> > > >> On 07.03.2019 9:45, gavin hu wrote:
> > > >>> In weak memory models, like arm64, reading the {prod,cons}.tail may
> > get
> > > >>> reordered after reading or writing the ring slots, which corrupts the
> > ring
> > > >>> and stale data is observed.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> This issue was reported by NXP on 8-A72 DPAA2 board. The problem
> > is
> > > >> most
> > > >>> likely caused by missing the acquire semantics when reading cons.tail
> > (in
> > > >>> SP enqueue) or prod.tail (in SC dequeue) which makes it possible to
> > > read
> > > >> a
> > > >>> stale value from the ring slots.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> For MP (and MC) case, rte_atomic32_cmpset() already provides the
> > > >> required
> > > >>> ordering. This patch is to prevent reading and writing the ring slots get
> > > >>> reordered before reading {prod,cons}.tail for SP (and SC) case.
> > > >>
> > > >> Read barrier rte_smp_rmb() is OK to prevent reading the ring get
> > > >> reordered
> > > >> before reading the tail. However, to prevent *writing* the ring get
> > > >> reordered
> > > >> *before reading* the tail you need a full memory barrier, i.e.
> > > >> rte_smp_mb().
> > > >
> > > > ISHLD(rte_smp_rmb is DMB(ishld) orders LD/LD and LD/ST, while
> > WMB(ST
> > > Option) orders ST/ST.
> > > > For more details, please refer to: Table B2-1 Encoding of the DMB and
> > DSB
> > > <option> parameter  in
> > > > https://developer.arm.com/docs/ddi0487/latest/arm-architecture-
> > > reference-manual-armv8-for-armv8-a-architecture-profile
> > >
> > > I see. But you have to change the rte_smp_rmb() function definition in
> > > lib/librte_eal/common/include/generic/rte_atomic.h and assure that all
> > > other architectures follows same rules.
> > > Otherwise, this change is logically wrong, because read barrier in current
> > > definition could not be used to order Load with Store.
> > >
> >
> > Good points, let me re-think how to handle for other architectures.
> > Full MB is required for other architectures(x86? Ppc?), but for arm, read
> > barrier(load/store and load/load) is enough.
> 
> Hi Ilya,
> 
> I would expand the rmb definition to cover load/store, in addition to load/load.
> For X86, as a strong memory order model, rmb is actually equivalent to mb,

That's not exactly the case, on x86 we have:
smp_rmb == compiler_barrier
smp_mb is a proper memory barrier.

Konstantin

> as implemented as a compiler barrier: rte_compiler_barrier,
> arm32 is also this case.
> For PPC, both 32 and 64-bit, rmb=wmb=mb, lwsync/sync orders load/store, load/load, store/load, store/store, looking at the table on this
> page:
> https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/systems/articles/powerpc.html
> 
> In summary, we are safe to expand this definition for all the architectures DPDK support?
> Any comments are welcome!
> 
> BR. Gavin
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-03-08 12:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-06  3:07 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1] " gavin hu
     [not found] ` <CGME20190306114906eucas1p19c2572b1fe777e1eb0ca96d2e47295bd@eucas1p1.samsung.com>
2019-03-06 11:49   ` [dpdk-dev] [v1] " Ilya Maximets
2019-03-07  6:50     ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2019-03-07  6:45 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2] " gavin hu
2019-03-07  8:52   ` Ilya Maximets
2019-03-07  9:27     ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2019-03-07  9:48       ` Ilya Maximets
2019-03-07 10:44         ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2019-03-07 11:17           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-03-08  3:21             ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-03-08  5:27               ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2019-03-08 16:33                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-03-10 20:47                   ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-03-11 13:58                     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-03-08  4:23           ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2019-03-08  5:06             ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-03-08 12:13             ` Ananyev, Konstantin [this message]
2019-03-08 15:05               ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2019-03-08 15:50                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-03-08 23:18                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-03-08 23:48                     ` Honnappa Nagarahalli
2019-03-09 10:28                       ` Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China)
2019-03-12 16:58 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/1] ring: enforce reading the tail before reading ring slots Gavin Hu
2019-03-12 16:58 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/1] " Gavin Hu
2019-03-13  8:12   ` Nipun Gupta
2019-03-15 13:26   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-03-15 13:26     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-03-28  0:21     ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-03-28  0:21       ` Thomas Monjalon

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