From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
Return-Path: <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>
Received: from mga11.intel.com (mga11.intel.com [192.55.52.93])
 by dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 905D21B1CE
 for <dev@dpdk.org>; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 14:24:52 +0200 (CEST)
X-Amp-Result: SKIPPED(no attachment in message)
X-Amp-File-Uploaded: False
Received: from fmsmga003.fm.intel.com ([10.253.24.29])
 by fmsmga102.fm.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384;
 15 Apr 2019 05:24:51 -0700
X-ExtLoop1: 1
X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.60,353,1549958400"; d="scan'208";a="149546344"
Received: from irsmsx103.ger.corp.intel.com ([163.33.3.157])
 by FMSMGA003.fm.intel.com with ESMTP; 15 Apr 2019 05:24:50 -0700
Received: from irsmsx105.ger.corp.intel.com ([169.254.7.31]) by
 IRSMSX103.ger.corp.intel.com ([169.254.3.30]) with mapi id 14.03.0415.000;
 Mon, 15 Apr 2019 13:24:47 +0100
From: "Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>
To: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>, Honnappa Nagarahalli
 <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>
CC: "paulmck@linux.ibm.com" <paulmck@linux.ibm.com>, "Kovacevic, Marko"
 <marko.kovacevic@intel.com>, "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>, "Gavin Hu (Arm
 Technology China)" <Gavin.Hu@arm.com>, Dharmik Thakkar
 <Dharmik.Thakkar@arm.com>, Malvika Gupta <Malvika.Gupta@arm.com>, nd
 <nd@arm.com>
Thread-Topic: [PATCH v5 1/3] rcu: add RCU library supporting QSBR mechanism
Thread-Index: AQHU8W09YQlYNBQMIUeythDpmiY2L6Y5BHAAgAAFAYCAAAupgIAEE9Rg
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 12:24:47 +0000
Message-ID: <2601191342CEEE43887BDE71AB9772580148A97E53@irsmsx105.ger.corp.intel.com>
References: <20181122033055.3431-1-honnappa.nagarahalli@arm.com>
 <20190412202039.46902-1-honnappa.nagarahalli@arm.com>
 <20190412202039.46902-2-honnappa.nagarahalli@arm.com>
 <20190412150650.3709358e@shemminger-XPS-13-9360>
 <VE1PR08MB51497C4B9E164CD07AC6EB5298280@VE1PR08MB5149.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com>
 <20190412160629.670eacd1@shemminger-XPS-13-9360>
In-Reply-To: <20190412160629.670eacd1@shemminger-XPS-13-9360>
Accept-Language: en-IE, en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach: 
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: 
x-titus-metadata-40: eyJDYXRlZ29yeUxhYmVscyI6IiIsIk1ldGFkYXRhIjp7Im5zIjoiaHR0cDpcL1wvd3d3LnRpdHVzLmNvbVwvbnNcL0ludGVsMyIsImlkIjoiNzUxNjcyNDYtYTVlZS00M2Q4LWE1NjQtZmQ2NGJjZDBkMDU3IiwicHJvcHMiOlt7Im4iOiJDVFBDbGFzc2lmaWNhdGlvbiIsInZhbHMiOlt7InZhbHVlIjoiQ1RQX05UIn1dfV19LCJTdWJqZWN0TGFiZWxzIjpbXSwiVE1DVmVyc2lvbiI6IjE3LjEwLjE4MDQuNDkiLCJUcnVzdGVkTGFiZWxIYXNoIjoiUlRxVWtDTGk0Zmp0Mk12OUdZeTdrWXp5bFhTQ2cyOE1oZ2VLem9zUlpnZGxxWEcrNGs3bG9aRnd5Q3RmM1wvY2IifQ==
x-ctpclassification: CTP_NT
dlp-product: dlpe-windows
dlp-version: 11.0.600.7
dlp-reaction: no-action
x-originating-ip: [163.33.239.182]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MIME-Version: 1.0
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/3] rcu: add RCU library supporting QSBR
	mechanism
X-BeenThere: dev@dpdk.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15
Precedence: list
List-Id: DPDK patches and discussions <dev.dpdk.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://mails.dpdk.org/options/dev>,
 <mailto:dev-request@dpdk.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://mails.dpdk.org/archives/dev/>
List-Post: <mailto:dev@dpdk.org>
List-Help: <mailto:dev-request@dpdk.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://mails.dpdk.org/listinfo/dev>,
 <mailto:dev-request@dpdk.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 12:24:53 -0000



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Hemminger [mailto:stephen@networkplumber.org]
> Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 12:06 AM
> To: Honnappa Nagarahalli <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>
> Cc: Ananyev, Konstantin <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>; paulmck@linux.ibm=
.com; Kovacevic, Marko <marko.kovacevic@intel.com>;
> dev@dpdk.org; Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China) <Gavin.Hu@arm.com>; Dharmik=
 Thakkar <Dharmik.Thakkar@arm.com>; Malvika Gupta
> <Malvika.Gupta@arm.com>; nd <nd@arm.com>
> Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/3] rcu: add RCU library supporting QSBR mechanis=
m
>=20
> On Fri, 12 Apr 2019 22:24:45 +0000
> Honnappa Nagarahalli <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com> wrote:
>=20
> > >
> > > On Fri, 12 Apr 2019 15:20:37 -0500
> > > Honnappa Nagarahalli <honnappa.nagarahalli@arm.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Add RCU library supporting quiescent state based memory reclamation
> > > method.
> > > > This library helps identify the quiescent state of the reader threa=
ds
> > > > so that the writers can free the memory associated with the lock le=
ss
> > > > data structures.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Honnappa Nagarahalli <honnappa.nagarahalli@arm.com>
> > > > Reviewed-by: Steve Capper <steve.capper@arm.com>
> > > > Reviewed-by: Gavin Hu <gavin.hu@arm.com>
> > > > Reviewed-by: Ola Liljedahl <ola.liljedahl@arm.com>
> > > > Acked-by: Konstantin Ananyev <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>
> > >
> > > After evaluating long term API/ABI issues, I think you need to get ri=
d of almost
> > > all use of inline and visible structures. Yes it might be marginally =
slower, but
> > > you thank me the first time you have to fix something.
> > >
> > Agree, I was planning on another version to address this (I am yet to t=
ake a look at your patch addressing the ABI).
> > The structure visibility definitely needs to be addressed.
> > For the inline functions, is the plan to convert all the inline functio=
ns in DPDK? If yes, I think we need to consider the performance
> difference. May be consider L3-fwd application, change all the inline fun=
ctions in its path and run a test?
>=20
> Every function that is not in the direct datapath should not be inline.
> Exceptions or things like rx/tx burst, ring enqueue/dequeue, and packet a=
lloc/free

Plus synchronization routines: spin/rwlock/barrier, etc.
I think rcu should be one of such exceptions - it is just another synchroni=
zation mechanism after all
(just a bit more sophisticated).
Konstantin

From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
Return-Path: <dev-bounces@dpdk.org>
Received: from dpdk.org (dpdk.org [92.243.14.124])
	by dpdk.space (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26703A00E6
	for <public@inbox.dpdk.org>; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 14:24:55 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from [92.243.14.124] (localhost [127.0.0.1])
	by dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04EC31B1EA;
	Mon, 15 Apr 2019 14:24:54 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from mga11.intel.com (mga11.intel.com [192.55.52.93])
 by dpdk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 905D21B1CE
 for <dev@dpdk.org>; Mon, 15 Apr 2019 14:24:52 +0200 (CEST)
X-Amp-Result: SKIPPED(no attachment in message)
X-Amp-File-Uploaded: False
Received: from fmsmga003.fm.intel.com ([10.253.24.29])
 by fmsmga102.fm.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384;
 15 Apr 2019 05:24:51 -0700
X-ExtLoop1: 1
X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.60,353,1549958400"; d="scan'208";a="149546344"
Received: from irsmsx103.ger.corp.intel.com ([163.33.3.157])
 by FMSMGA003.fm.intel.com with ESMTP; 15 Apr 2019 05:24:50 -0700
Received: from irsmsx105.ger.corp.intel.com ([169.254.7.31]) by
 IRSMSX103.ger.corp.intel.com ([169.254.3.30]) with mapi id 14.03.0415.000;
 Mon, 15 Apr 2019 13:24:47 +0100
From: "Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>
To: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>, Honnappa Nagarahalli
 <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>
CC: "paulmck@linux.ibm.com" <paulmck@linux.ibm.com>, "Kovacevic, Marko"
 <marko.kovacevic@intel.com>, "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>, "Gavin Hu (Arm
 Technology China)" <Gavin.Hu@arm.com>, Dharmik Thakkar
 <Dharmik.Thakkar@arm.com>, Malvika Gupta <Malvika.Gupta@arm.com>, nd
 <nd@arm.com>
Thread-Topic: [PATCH v5 1/3] rcu: add RCU library supporting QSBR mechanism
Thread-Index: AQHU8W09YQlYNBQMIUeythDpmiY2L6Y5BHAAgAAFAYCAAAupgIAEE9Rg
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 12:24:47 +0000
Message-ID:
 <2601191342CEEE43887BDE71AB9772580148A97E53@irsmsx105.ger.corp.intel.com>
References: <20181122033055.3431-1-honnappa.nagarahalli@arm.com>
 <20190412202039.46902-1-honnappa.nagarahalli@arm.com>
 <20190412202039.46902-2-honnappa.nagarahalli@arm.com>
 <20190412150650.3709358e@shemminger-XPS-13-9360>
 <VE1PR08MB51497C4B9E164CD07AC6EB5298280@VE1PR08MB5149.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com>
 <20190412160629.670eacd1@shemminger-XPS-13-9360>
In-Reply-To: <20190412160629.670eacd1@shemminger-XPS-13-9360>
Accept-Language: en-IE, en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach: 
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: 
x-titus-metadata-40: eyJDYXRlZ29yeUxhYmVscyI6IiIsIk1ldGFkYXRhIjp7Im5zIjoiaHR0cDpcL1wvd3d3LnRpdHVzLmNvbVwvbnNcL0ludGVsMyIsImlkIjoiNzUxNjcyNDYtYTVlZS00M2Q4LWE1NjQtZmQ2NGJjZDBkMDU3IiwicHJvcHMiOlt7Im4iOiJDVFBDbGFzc2lmaWNhdGlvbiIsInZhbHMiOlt7InZhbHVlIjoiQ1RQX05UIn1dfV19LCJTdWJqZWN0TGFiZWxzIjpbXSwiVE1DVmVyc2lvbiI6IjE3LjEwLjE4MDQuNDkiLCJUcnVzdGVkTGFiZWxIYXNoIjoiUlRxVWtDTGk0Zmp0Mk12OUdZeTdrWXp5bFhTQ2cyOE1oZ2VLem9zUlpnZGxxWEcrNGs3bG9aRnd5Q3RmM1wvY2IifQ==
x-ctpclassification: CTP_NT
dlp-product: dlpe-windows
dlp-version: 11.0.600.7
dlp-reaction: no-action
x-originating-ip: [163.33.239.182]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MIME-Version: 1.0
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/3] rcu: add RCU library supporting QSBR
	mechanism
X-BeenThere: dev@dpdk.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15
Precedence: list
List-Id: DPDK patches and discussions <dev.dpdk.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://mails.dpdk.org/options/dev>,
 <mailto:dev-request@dpdk.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://mails.dpdk.org/archives/dev/>
List-Post: <mailto:dev@dpdk.org>
List-Help: <mailto:dev-request@dpdk.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://mails.dpdk.org/listinfo/dev>,
 <mailto:dev-request@dpdk.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: dev-bounces@dpdk.org
Sender: "dev" <dev-bounces@dpdk.org>
Message-ID: <20190415122447.Voz1DjkmWgNypVT7fWZuVgkoc9mVcVDISRNDnB5v3KU@z>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Hemminger [mailto:stephen@networkplumber.org]
> Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 12:06 AM
> To: Honnappa Nagarahalli <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com>
> Cc: Ananyev, Konstantin <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>; paulmck@linux.ibm=
.com; Kovacevic, Marko <marko.kovacevic@intel.com>;
> dev@dpdk.org; Gavin Hu (Arm Technology China) <Gavin.Hu@arm.com>; Dharmik=
 Thakkar <Dharmik.Thakkar@arm.com>; Malvika Gupta
> <Malvika.Gupta@arm.com>; nd <nd@arm.com>
> Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/3] rcu: add RCU library supporting QSBR mechanis=
m
>=20
> On Fri, 12 Apr 2019 22:24:45 +0000
> Honnappa Nagarahalli <Honnappa.Nagarahalli@arm.com> wrote:
>=20
> > >
> > > On Fri, 12 Apr 2019 15:20:37 -0500
> > > Honnappa Nagarahalli <honnappa.nagarahalli@arm.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Add RCU library supporting quiescent state based memory reclamation
> > > method.
> > > > This library helps identify the quiescent state of the reader threa=
ds
> > > > so that the writers can free the memory associated with the lock le=
ss
> > > > data structures.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Honnappa Nagarahalli <honnappa.nagarahalli@arm.com>
> > > > Reviewed-by: Steve Capper <steve.capper@arm.com>
> > > > Reviewed-by: Gavin Hu <gavin.hu@arm.com>
> > > > Reviewed-by: Ola Liljedahl <ola.liljedahl@arm.com>
> > > > Acked-by: Konstantin Ananyev <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>
> > >
> > > After evaluating long term API/ABI issues, I think you need to get ri=
d of almost
> > > all use of inline and visible structures. Yes it might be marginally =
slower, but
> > > you thank me the first time you have to fix something.
> > >
> > Agree, I was planning on another version to address this (I am yet to t=
ake a look at your patch addressing the ABI).
> > The structure visibility definitely needs to be addressed.
> > For the inline functions, is the plan to convert all the inline functio=
ns in DPDK? If yes, I think we need to consider the performance
> difference. May be consider L3-fwd application, change all the inline fun=
ctions in its path and run a test?
>=20
> Every function that is not in the direct datapath should not be inline.
> Exceptions or things like rx/tx burst, ring enqueue/dequeue, and packet a=
lloc/free

Plus synchronization routines: spin/rwlock/barrier, etc.
I think rcu should be one of such exceptions - it is just another synchroni=
zation mechanism after all
(just a bit more sophisticated).
Konstantin