From: "Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>
To: Olivier MATZ <olivier.matz@6wind.com>,
"Richardson, Bruce" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
"Damjan Marion \(damarion\)" <damarion@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] rte_mbuf.next in 2nd cacheline
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 14:52:56 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2601191342CEEE43887BDE71AB97725836A0A8A8@irsmsx105.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <557EE1A0.609@6wind.com>
Hi Olivier,
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Olivier MATZ [mailto:olivier.matz@6wind.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 3:31 PM
> To: Richardson, Bruce
> Cc: Ananyev, Konstantin; dev@dpdk.org; Damjan Marion (damarion)
> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] rte_mbuf.next in 2nd cacheline
>
>
>
> On 06/15/2015 04:12 PM, Bruce Richardson wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 04:05:05PM +0200, Olivier MATZ wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On 06/15/2015 03:54 PM, Ananyev, Konstantin wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: dev [mailto:dev-bounces@dpdk.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Richardson
> >>>> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 2:44 PM
> >>>> To: Olivier MATZ
> >>>> Cc: dev@dpdk.org; Damjan Marion (damarion)
> >>>> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] rte_mbuf.next in 2nd cacheline
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 03:20:22PM +0200, Olivier MATZ wrote:
> >>>>> Hi Damjan,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 06/10/2015 11:47 PM, Damjan Marion (damarion) wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We noticed 7% performance improvement by simply moving rte_mbuf.next field to the 1st cache line.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Currently, it falls under /* second cache line - fields only used in slow path or on TX */
> >>>>>> but it is actually used at several places in rx fast path. (e.g.: i40e_rx_alloc_bufs() is setting that field to NULL).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Is there anything we can do here (stop using next field, or move it to 1st cache line)?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Agree, this is also something I noticed, see:
> >>>>> http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/dev/2015-February/014400.html
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I did not have the time to do performance testing, but it's something
> >>>>> I'd like to do as soon as I can. I don't see any obvious reason not to
> >>>>> do it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It seems we currently just have enough room to do it (8 bytes are
> >>>>> remaining in the first cache line when compiled in 64 bits).
> >>>>
> >>>> This, to me, is the obvious reason not to do it! It prevents us from taking in
> >>>> any other offload fields in the RX fast-path into the mbuf.
> >>>>
> >>>> That being said, I can see why we might want to look to move it - but from the
> >>>> work done in the ixgbe driver, I'd be hopeful we can get as much performance with
> >>>> it on the second cache line for most cases, through judicious use of prefetching,
> >>>> or otherwise.
> >>>>
> >>>> It took a lot of work and investigation to get free space in the mbuf - especially
> >>>> in cache line 0, and I'd like to avoid just filling the cache line up again as
> >>>> long as we possibly can!
> >>>
> >>> Yep, agree with Bruce here.
> >>> Plus, with packet_type going to be 4B and vlan_tci_outer,
> >>> we just don't have 8 free bytes at the first cache line any more.
> >>
> >> I don't understand why m->next would not be a better candidate than
> >> rx offload fields to be in the first cache line. For instance, m->next
> >> is mandatory and must be initialized when allocating a mbuf (to be
> >> compared with m->seqn for instance, which is also in the first cache
> >> line). So if we want to do some room in the first cache line, I
> >> think we can.
> >>
> >> To me, the only reason for not doing it now is because we don't
> >> have a full performance test report (several use-cases, drivers, ...)
> >> that shows it's better.
> >>
> > Because the "next" field is not mandatory to be set on initialization. It can
> > instead be set only when needed, and cleared on free if it is used.
> >
> > The next pointers always start out as NULL when the mbuf pool is created. The
> > only time it is set to non-NULL is when we have chained mbufs. If we never have
> > any chained mbufs, we never need to touch the next field, or even read it - since
> > we have the num-segments count in the first cache line. If we do have a multi-segment
> > mbuf, it's likely to be a big packet, so we have more processing time available
> > and we can then take the hit of setting the next pointer. Whenever we go to
> > free that mbuf for that packet, the code to do the freeing obviously needs to
> > read the next pointer so as to free all the buffers in the chain, and so it can
> > also reset the next pointer to NULL when doing so.
> >
> > In this way, we can ensure that the next pointer on cache line 1 is not a problem
> > in our fast path.
>
> This is a good idea, but looking at the drivers, it seems that today
> they all set m->next to NULL in the rx function. What you are suggesting
> is to remove all of them, and document somewhere that all mbufs in a
> pool are supposed to have their m->next set to NULL, correct?
>
> I think what you are describing could also apply to reference counter
> (set to 1 by default), right?
We probably can reset next to NULL at __rte_pktmbuf_prefree_seg(),
at the same time we do reset refcnt to 0.
Is that what you suggesting?
Konstantin
>
>
> Olivier
>
>
> >
> > /Bruce
> >
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-06-15 14:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-06-10 21:47 Damjan Marion (damarion)
2015-06-15 13:20 ` Olivier MATZ
2015-06-15 13:44 ` Bruce Richardson
2015-06-15 13:54 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2015-06-15 14:05 ` Olivier MATZ
2015-06-15 14:12 ` Bruce Richardson
2015-06-15 14:30 ` Olivier MATZ
2015-06-15 14:46 ` Bruce Richardson
2015-06-15 14:52 ` Ananyev, Konstantin [this message]
2015-06-15 15:19 ` Olivier MATZ
2015-06-15 15:23 ` Bruce Richardson
2015-06-15 15:28 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2015-06-15 15:39 ` Bruce Richardson
2015-06-15 15:59 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2015-06-15 16:02 ` Bruce Richardson
2015-06-15 16:10 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2015-06-15 16:23 ` Bruce Richardson
2015-06-15 18:34 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2015-06-15 20:47 ` Stephen Hemminger
2015-06-16 8:20 ` Bruce Richardson
2015-06-17 13:55 ` Damjan Marion (damarion)
2015-06-17 14:04 ` Thomas Monjalon
2015-06-17 14:06 ` Bruce Richardson
2015-06-17 14:23 ` Damjan Marion (damarion)
2015-06-17 16:32 ` Thomas Monjalon
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2015-06-17 18:50 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
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