From: "Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>
To: "Neil Horman" <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>,
"Nélio Laranjeiro" <nelio.laranjeiro@6wind.com>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
"Richardson, Bruce" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
"Wiles, Keith" <keith.wiles@intel.com>,
"Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>,
"Lu, Wenzhuo" <wenzhuo.lu@intel.com>,
"Olivier Matz" <olivier.matz@6wind.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] net: introduce big and little endian types
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 15:10:51 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2601191342CEEE43887BDE71AB9772583F0E5804@irsmsx105.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161208150721.GB4657@hmsreliant.think-freely.org>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neil Horman [mailto:nhorman@tuxdriver.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 3:07 PM
> To: Nélio Laranjeiro <nelio.laranjeiro@6wind.com>
> Cc: dev@dpdk.org; Ananyev, Konstantin <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>; Richardson, Bruce <bruce.richardson@intel.com>; Wiles,
> Keith <keith.wiles@intel.com>; Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com>; Lu, Wenzhuo <wenzhuo.lu@intel.com>; Olivier Matz
> <olivier.matz@6wind.com>
> Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: introduce big and little endian types
>
> On Thu, Dec 08, 2016 at 10:30:05AM +0100, Nélio Laranjeiro wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Following previous discussions, I would like to gather requirements for
> > v2, currently we have:
> >
> > 1. Introduction of new typedefs.
> > 2. Modification of network headers.
> > 3. Modification of rte_*_to_*() functions.
> >
> > Point 1. seems not to be an issue, everyone seems to agree on the fact
> > having those types could help to document some parts of the code.
> >
> No objection here
>
> > Point 2. does not cause any ABI change as it is only a documentation
> > commit, not sure if anyone disagrees about this.
> >
> I have an objection here, and I think it was stated by others previously. While
> its fine to offer endian encoded types so that developers can use them
> expediently, I don't like the idea of coding them into network headers
> specifically. I assert that because network headers represent multiple views of
> network data (both network byte order if the data is taken off the wire and cpu
> byte order if its translated. To implement such a network header change
> efficiently what you would need is something like the following:
>
> struct rte_ip_network_hdr {
> rte_le_u32 dst;
> rte_le_u32 src;
> ...
> };
>
> struct rte_ip_cpu_hdr {
> rte_cpu_u32 dst;
> rte_cpu_u32 src;
> ...
> };
>
> where rte_cpu_* is defined to a big endian or little endian type based on the
> cpu being targeted.
>
> Then of course you need to define translation macros to do all the appropriate
> conversions convieniently (or you need to do specific translations on the
> network byte order as needed, which may lead to lots of repeated conversions).
> Regardless, this seems to be unscalable. Endian types are the sort of thing that
> you should only use sparingly, not by default.
+1
>
> > Point 3. documentation commit most people are uncomfortable with.
> > I propose to drop it from v2.
> >
> > Any objection to this plan?
> >
> > --
> > Nélio Laranjeiro
> > 6WIND
> >
prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-12-08 15:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-11-09 15:04 Nelio Laranjeiro
2016-12-05 10:09 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2016-12-05 12:06 ` Nélio Laranjeiro
2016-12-06 11:23 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2016-12-06 11:55 ` Bruce Richardson
2016-12-06 12:41 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2016-12-06 13:34 ` Bruce Richardson
2016-12-06 14:45 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2016-12-06 14:56 ` Wiles, Keith
2016-12-06 15:34 ` Morten Brørup
2016-12-06 16:28 ` Nélio Laranjeiro
2016-12-06 16:31 ` Wiles, Keith
2016-12-06 16:36 ` Richardson, Bruce
2016-12-06 17:00 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2016-12-06 17:29 ` Neil Horman
2016-12-06 13:14 ` Nélio Laranjeiro
2016-12-06 13:30 ` Bruce Richardson
2016-12-06 14:06 ` Wiles, Keith
2016-12-08 9:30 ` Nélio Laranjeiro
2016-12-08 13:59 ` Wiles, Keith
2016-12-08 16:06 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-12-08 15:07 ` Neil Horman
2016-12-08 15:10 ` Ananyev, Konstantin [this message]
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