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From: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
To: "Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>,
	Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@mellanox.com>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org, stephen@networkplumber.org
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/4] ethdev: add helpers to move to the new offloads API
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 11:27:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2632317.9dDdYF2F86@xps> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2601191342CEEE43887BDE71AB9772584F2480E8@irsmsx105.ger.corp.intel.com>

I still think we must streamline ethdev API instead of complexifying.
We should drop the big "configure everything" and configure offloads
one by one, and per queue (the finer grain).

More comments below

06/09/2017 11:33, Ananyev, Konstantin:
> From: Shahaf Shuler [mailto:shahafs@mellanox.com]
> > Tuesday, September 5, 2017 6:31 PM, Ananyev, Konstantin:

> > > > > > > > > In fact, right now it is possible to query/change these 3
> > > > > > > > > vlan offload flags on the fly (after dev_start) on  port
> > > > > > > > > basis by
> > > > > rte_eth_dev_(get|set)_vlan_offload API.
> > > >
> > > > Regarding this API from ethdev.
> > > >
> > > > So this seems like a hack on ethdev. Currently there are 2 ways for user to
> > > set Rx vlan offloads.
> > > > One is through dev_configure which require the ports to be stopped. The
> > > other is this API which can set even if the port is started.
> > >
> > > Yes there is an ability to enable/disable VLAN offloads without
> > > stop/reconfigure the device.
> > > Though I wouldn't call it 'a hack'.
> > > From my perspective - it is a useful feature.
> > > Same as it is possible in some cases to change MTU without stopping device,
> > > etc.

I think the function rte_eth_dev_configure(), which set up several things
at a time, is a very bad idea from API perspective.

In the VLAN example, we should have only one function to set this offload.
And the PMD should advertise the capability of configuring VLAN on the fly.
This function should return an error if called on the fly (started state)
and PMD does not support it.


> > > Consider scenario when PF has a corresponding VFs (PF is controlled by
> > > DPDK) Right now (at least with Intel HW) it is possible to:
> > >
> > > struct rte_eth_conf dev_conf;
> > >  dev_conf. rxmode.hw_vlan_filter = 1;
> > > ...
> > > rte_eth_dev_configure(pf_port_id, 0, 0, &dev_conf);
> > > rte_eth_dev_start(pf_port_id);
> > >
> > > In that scenario I don't have any RX/TX queues configured.
> > > Though I still able to enable vlan filter, and it would work correctly for VFs.
> > > Same for other per-port offloads.
> > 
> > For the PF - enabling vlan filtering without any queues means nothing. The PF can receive no traffic, what different does it makes the vlan
> > filtering is set?
> > For the VF - I assume it will have queues, therefore for it vlan filtering has a meaning. However as I said above, the VF has the vlan filter
> > because in intel this is per-device offload, so this is not a good example.
> 
> Yes it is a per-device offload, and right now it is possible to enable/disable it via
> dev_confgiure(); dev_start();
> without configuring/starting any RX/TX queues.
> That's an ability I'd like to preserve.
> So from my perspective it is a perfectly valid example.

It is configuring VFs by setting the PF.
Where is it documented?
It looks to me as a device-specific side effect.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-13  9:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 134+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-04  7:12 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/4] ethdev " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-04  7:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/4] ethdev: rename Rx and Tx configuration structs Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-04 12:06   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-04 12:45     ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-04  7:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/4] ethdev: introduce Rx queue offloads API Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-04  7:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/4] ethdev: introduce Tx " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-04  7:12 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/4] ethdev: add helpers to move to the new " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-04 12:13   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-04 13:25   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-04 13:53     ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-04 14:18       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-05  7:48         ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-05  8:09           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-05 10:51             ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-05 13:50               ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-05 15:31               ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-06  6:01                 ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-06  9:33                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-13  9:27                     ` Thomas Monjalon [this message]
2017-09-13 11:16                       ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-13 12:41                         ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-13 12:56                           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-13 13:20                             ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-13 21:42                               ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-14  8:02                                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-18 10:31                                   ` Bruce Richardson
2017-09-18 10:57                                     ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-18 11:04                                       ` Bruce Richardson
2017-09-18 11:27                                         ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-18 11:04                                       ` Bruce Richardson
2017-09-18 11:11                                         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-18 11:32                                           ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-18 11:37                                             ` Bruce Richardson
2017-09-18 14:27                                               ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-18 14:42                                                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-18 14:44                                                 ` Bruce Richardson
2017-09-18 18:18                                                   ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-18 21:08                                                     ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-19  7:33                                                       ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-19  7:56                                                         ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-09-13 12:56                           ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-04 14:02     ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-04 15:55       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-10 12:07 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/2] ethdev " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-10 12:07   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/2] ethdev: introduce Rx queue " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-10 12:07   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/2] ethdev: introduce Tx " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-10 17:48     ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-09-11  5:52       ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-11  6:21         ` Jerin Jacob
2017-09-11  7:56           ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-11  8:06             ` Jerin Jacob
2017-09-11  8:46               ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-11  9:05                 ` Jerin Jacob
2017-09-11 11:02                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-12  4:01                     ` Jerin Jacob
2017-09-12  5:25                       ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-12  5:51                         ` Jerin Jacob
2017-09-12  6:35                           ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-12  6:46                             ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-12  7:17                             ` Jerin Jacob
2017-09-12  8:03                               ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-12 10:27                                 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-12 14:26                                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-09-12 14:36                                     ` Jerin Jacob
2017-09-12 14:43                                       ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-12  6:43                           ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-12  6:59                             ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-11  8:03     ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-11 12:27       ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-11 13:10         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-13  6:37   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/2] ethdev new " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-13  6:37     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/2] ethdev: introduce Rx queue " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-13  8:13       ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-13 12:49         ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-13  8:49       ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-13  9:13         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-13 12:33           ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-13 12:34             ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-13  6:37     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/2] ethdev: introduce Tx " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-13  8:40       ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-13 12:51         ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-13  9:10     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/2] ethdev new " Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-17  6:54     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/3] " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-17  6:54       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/3] ethdev: introduce Rx queue " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-17  6:54       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/3] ethdev: introduce Tx " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-18  7:50         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-17  6:54       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/3] doc: add details on ethdev " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-18  7:51         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-18 13:40         ` Mcnamara, John
2017-09-18  7:51       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/3] ethdev new " Andrew Rybchenko
2017-09-28 18:54       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 " Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-28 18:54         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/3] ethdev: introduce Rx queue " Shahaf Shuler
2017-10-03  0:32           ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-10-03  6:25             ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-10-03 19:46               ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-09-28 18:54         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/3] ethdev: introduce Tx " Shahaf Shuler
2017-10-03 19:50           ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-10-04  8:06             ` Shahaf Shuler
2017-09-28 18:54         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/3] doc: add details on ethdev " Shahaf Shuler
2017-10-04  8:17         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/4] ethdev new " Shahaf Shuler
2017-10-04  8:17           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/4] ethdev: introduce Rx queue " Shahaf Shuler
2017-10-04  8:17           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 2/4] ethdev: introduce Tx " Shahaf Shuler
2017-10-04  8:18           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 3/4] ethdev: add mbuf fast free Tx offload Shahaf Shuler
2017-10-04  8:18           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 4/4] doc: add details on ethdev offloads API Shahaf Shuler
2017-10-04 13:46             ` Mcnamara, John
2018-03-15  1:58             ` Patil, Harish
2018-03-15  6:05               ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-03-16 15:51             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH] doc: update new ethdev offload API description Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-17  0:16               ` Patil, Harish
2018-03-18  5:52               ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-03-21  9:47               ` Andrew Rybchenko
2018-03-21 10:54                 ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-21 11:08                   ` Andrew Rybchenko
2018-03-21 11:10                     ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-03-21 11:19                       ` Andrew Rybchenko
2018-03-21 11:23                         ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-03-21 11:37                           ` Andrew Rybchenko
2018-03-21 11:40                             ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-03-21 12:52                               ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-21 13:06                                 ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-03-21 13:11                                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-03-21 12:03                             ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-03-21 12:29                               ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-03-21 12:34                               ` Andrew Rybchenko
2018-03-21 12:37                                 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2018-03-21 14:08                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-03-21 14:28                     ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-21 14:40                       ` Thomas Monjalon
2018-03-21 15:26                         ` Bruce Richardson
2018-03-21 15:29                           ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-03-21 15:44                             ` Bruce Richardson
2018-05-08 12:33               ` Ferruh Yigit
2017-10-04 16:12           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/4] ethdev new offloads API Ananyev, Konstantin
2017-10-05  0:55             ` Ferruh Yigit

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