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From: Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>
To: Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@mellanox.com>,
	Mordechay Haimovsky <motih@mellanox.com>,
	"pascal.mazon@6wind.com" <pascal.mazon@6wind.com>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH V5 2/2] net/tap: use new Rx offloads API
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 14:34:28 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <271afafa-a3ab-fcb1-6d9a-da3cfd68afdf@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DB7PR05MB4426B48C314CFCBD0A554062C3D00@DB7PR05MB4426.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com>

On 3/15/2018 6:16 AM, Shahaf Shuler wrote:
> Thursday, March 15, 2018 12:41 AM, Ferruh Yigit:
>> On 3/14/2018 5:49 AM, Shahaf Shuler wrote:
>>> Tuesday, March 13, 2018 1:57 PM, Ferruh Yigit:
>>>>>
>>>>> Again - the application should follow the API which currently
>>>>> dictates how
>>>> to set port offload. It is not depends on the rx_queue_offloads
>> capabilities.
>>>>> For example, PMD which don't support queue offloads can still have
>>>> verification for the API that each port offload is set also on the
>>>> queue offloads.
>>>>
>>>> I am not agree with this part, why to dictate application to set
>>>> queue offloads if it already knows device doesn't support queue specific
>> offloads?
>>>
>>> I agree we can make a small change in the API to not force the application
>> to set the port offloads in the queue configuration. It makes sense.
>>> The change will be:
>>> "port offloads should be set on the port configuration. Queue offloads
>> should be set on the queue configuration"
>>
>> I am OK to this one, this is more reasonable for devices that support only port
>> level offloads.
>>
>> This looks like same as option #2 mentioned in the previous mails.
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> In some of the existing PMD patches, to switch to new offloading API,
>>>> PMD sets [rt]x_queue_offload_capa as same as [rt]x_offload_capa,
>>>
>>> Well this is just wrong. Unless those PMDs support all the offloads in a
>> queue level.
>>>
>>> The logic is "every queue offload can be counted as port offload", because
>> such offload can be set on each and every queue.
>>> The other way around is not correct, port offload cannot be counted as
>> queue offload.
>>>
>>> So if such PMDs has offloads which are supported only on the port level
>> they cannot be declared as queue offloads.
>>
>> Thanks for confirming, it would be great if you can help on the PMD new
>> offload API patch reviews, to catch these kind of issues.
> 
> Sure, have me Cc in the patches so It can pass through my mailbox filters. 
> 
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> in that case
>>>> application can't know if queue specific offloads are supported or
>>>> not and application may try to set queue offloads, this forces PMD to
>> verify them.
>>>>
>>>> You confirmed [rt]x_queue_offload_capa is the way for application to
>>>> know if device supports queue specific offloads or not. If these
>>>> values always set to [rt]x_offload_capa, application losts this capability.
>>>>
>>>> Instead:
>>>> - PMD that doesn't support queue specific offloads should set
>>>> [rt]x_queue_offload_capa to 0
>>>> - When [rt]x_queue_offload_capa is 0, application should be free to
>>>> set queue offloads whatever it wants
>>>
>>> I don't agree, when queue_offload_capa is 0 the expected behavior from
>> application is not to set any offload (if we do the change in the API that you
>> are pushing to).
>>> PMDs can verify it or not, but if capability is not set the application should
>> not set the offload. This is how the API should be defined.
>>
>> OK for this one.
>>
>>>
>>>> - When [rt]x_queue_offload_capa is 0, PMD should be free to verify
>>>> queue offloads but most probably shouldn't verify them since we don't
>>>> know what application will send.
>>>>
>>>> - When [rt]x_queue_offload_capa is != 0, applications should set
>>>> queue offloads at least "[rt]x_queue_offload = [rt]x_offload"
>>>
>>> If we do the change you are pushing it is not needed.
>>> Application will set the port offload in the port configuration, and the
>> queue offload in the queue configuration.
>>> No need to make special treatment based on the offloads_capa.
>>
>> Right.
>>
>>>
>>>> - When [rt]x_queue_offload_capa is != 0, PMD should verify the queue
>>>> offloads
>>>>
>>
>>
>> Back to initial question J, is tap supports queue level offloads?
>> If not it shouldn't be reporting or checking queue offloads.
>>
>>
>> Although it will be changed after above suggested change in API, I think
>> check in existing tap queue_setup, also same in mlx5, is wrong.
>>
>> tap_rxq_are_offloads_valid(struct rte_eth_dev *dev, uint64_t offloads) {
>>
>>         uint64_t port_offloads = dev->data->dev_conf.rxmode.offloads;
>>         uint64_t queue_supp_offloads = tap_rx_offload_get_queue_capa();
>>         uint64_t port_supp_offloads = tap_rx_offload_get_port_capa();
>>
>>
>> <...>
>>         if ((port_offloads ^ offloads) & port_supp_offloads)
>>                return false;
>>         return true;
>>
>> }
>>
>>
>> take the example:
>> port_supp_offloads = 11111
>> port_offloads = 111
>> queue_supp_offloads = 1111
>> offloads = 1111
>>
>> (port_offloads ^ offloads) & port_supp_offloads = 1000 Which will return
>> false.
>>
>> This only works if "port_offloads == offloads" which is practically only
>> supporting port level offloads.
> 
> For mlx5, the port_supp_offloads is internal function which returns **only** the pure port offloads (the port offloads in dev_info are rx_offload_get_queue_capa() | rx_offload_get_port_capa())
> That is, offload cannot be in both port and queue offload. So the scenario above is not feasible. 

Right, so only tap is broken J


Also, can you please verify following with mlx5:
 port_supp_offloads = 10000
 port_offloads = 111
 queue_supp_offloads = 1111
 offloads = 110

Since "offloads" is missing one of the "port_offloads" it should return error
but it doesn't. (111 ^ 110) & 10000 = 0

It can be helpful to comment these lines about the intention, otherwise hard to
understand what exactly checked from bitwise ops.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-15 14:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-04 19:18 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH V3 0/2] net/tap: convert to new ethdev " Moti Haimovsky
2018-01-04 19:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH V3 1/2] net/tap: convert to new Tx " Moti Haimovsky
2018-01-05  8:18   ` Pascal Mazon
2018-01-04 19:18 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH V3 2/2] net/tap: convert to new Rx " Moti Haimovsky
2018-01-05  8:26   ` Pascal Mazon
2018-01-10 16:20   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH V4 1/2] net/tap: convert to new Tx " Moti Haimovsky
2018-01-10 16:20     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH V4 2/2] net/tap: convert to new Rx " Moti Haimovsky
2018-01-10 16:42       ` Pascal Mazon
2018-01-17 14:04       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH V5 1/2] net/tap: use new Tx " Moti Haimovsky
2018-01-17 14:04         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH V5 2/2] net/tap: use new Rx " Moti Haimovsky
2018-03-02 21:44           ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-12 14:20             ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-03-12 16:59               ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-12 17:58                 ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-03-12 19:05                   ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-13  7:08                     ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-03-13 11:56                       ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-14  5:49                         ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-03-14 22:40                           ` Ferruh Yigit
2018-03-15  6:16                             ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-03-15 14:34                               ` Ferruh Yigit [this message]
2018-01-18 14:02         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH V5 1/2] net/tap: use new Tx " Pascal Mazon
2018-01-18 15:19           ` Ferruh Yigit

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