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From: "Mattias Rönnblom" <hofors@lysator.liu.se>
To: "Morten Brørup" <mb@smartsharesystems.com>,
	olivier.matz@6wind.com, andrew.rybchenko@oktetlabs.ru,
	stephen@networkplumber.org, jerinj@marvell.com,
	bruce.richardson@intel.com
Cc: thomas@monjalon.net, dev@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/3] mempool: include non-DPDK threads in statistics
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2022 08:26:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2a9c1a31-ef82-3542-d5a1-cf73dea73140@lysator.liu.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <98CBD80474FA8B44BF855DF32C47DC35D87483@smartserver.smartshare.dk>

On 2022-11-04 11:01, Morten Brørup wrote:
>> From: Mattias Rönnblom [mailto:hofors@lysator.liu.se]
>> Sent: Friday, 4 November 2022 09.59
>>
>> On 2022-11-03 09:59, Morten Brørup wrote:
>>>> From: Mattias Rönnblom [mailto:hofors@lysator.liu.se]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 2 November 2022 18.53
>>>>
>>>> On 2022-11-02 10:09, Morten Brørup wrote:
>>>>>> From: Mattias Rönnblom [mailto:hofors@lysator.liu.se]
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 2 November 2022 08.53
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2022-10-31 12:26, Morten Brørup wrote:
>>>>>>> Offset the stats array index by one, and count non-DPDK threads
>> at
>>>>>> index
>>>>>>> zero.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This patch provides two benefits:
>>>>>>> * Non-DPDK threads are also included in the statistics.
>>>>>>> * A conditional in the fast path is removed. Static branch
>>>> prediction
>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>       correct, so the performance improvement is negligible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> v2:
>>>>>>> * New. No v1 of this patch in the series.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Suggested-by: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Morten Brørup <mb@smartsharesystems.com>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>      lib/mempool/rte_mempool.c |  2 +-
>>>>>>>      lib/mempool/rte_mempool.h | 12 ++++++------
>>>>>>>      2 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> diff --git a/lib/mempool/rte_mempool.c
>> b/lib/mempool/rte_mempool.c
>>>>>>> index 62d1ce764e..e6208125e0 100644
>>>>>>> --- a/lib/mempool/rte_mempool.c
>>>>>>> +++ b/lib/mempool/rte_mempool.c
>>>>>>> @@ -1272,7 +1272,7 @@ rte_mempool_dump(FILE *f, struct
>> rte_mempool
>>>>>> *mp)
>>>>>>>      #ifdef RTE_LIBRTE_MEMPOOL_STATS
>>>>>>>      	rte_mempool_ops_get_info(mp, &info);
>>>>>>>      	memset(&sum, 0, sizeof(sum));
>>>>>>> -	for (lcore_id = 0; lcore_id < RTE_MAX_LCORE; lcore_id++) {
>>>>>>> +	for (lcore_id = 0; lcore_id < RTE_MAX_LCORE + 1;
>> lcore_id++) {
>>>>>>>      		sum.put_bulk += mp->stats[lcore_id].put_bulk;
>>>>>>>      		sum.put_objs += mp->stats[lcore_id].put_objs;
>>>>>>>      		sum.put_common_pool_bulk += mp-
>>>>>>> stats[lcore_id].put_common_pool_bulk;
>>>>>>> diff --git a/lib/mempool/rte_mempool.h
>> b/lib/mempool/rte_mempool.h
>>>>>>> index 9c4bf5549f..16e7e62e3c 100644
>>>>>>> --- a/lib/mempool/rte_mempool.h
>>>>>>> +++ b/lib/mempool/rte_mempool.h
>>>>>>> @@ -238,8 +238,11 @@ struct rte_mempool {
>>>>>>>      	struct rte_mempool_memhdr_list mem_list; /**< List of
>>>> memory
>>>>>> chunks */
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      #ifdef RTE_LIBRTE_MEMPOOL_STATS
>>>>>>> -	/** Per-lcore statistics. */
>>>>>>> -	struct rte_mempool_debug_stats stats[RTE_MAX_LCORE];
>>>>>>> +	/** Per-lcore statistics.
>>>>>>> +	 *
>>>>>>> +	 * Offset by one, to include non-DPDK threads.
>>>>>>> +	 */
>>>>>>> +	struct rte_mempool_debug_stats stats[RTE_MAX_LCORE + 1];
>>>>>>>      #endif
>>>>>>>      }  __rte_cache_aligned;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @@ -304,10 +307,7 @@ struct rte_mempool {
>>>>>>>       */
>>>>>>>      #ifdef RTE_LIBRTE_MEMPOOL_STATS
>>>>>>>      #define RTE_MEMPOOL_STAT_ADD(mp, name, n) do {
>>>> \
>>>>>>> -		unsigned __lcore_id = rte_lcore_id();           \
>>>>>>> -		if (__lcore_id < RTE_MAX_LCORE) {               \
>>>>>>> -			mp->stats[__lcore_id].name += n;        \
>>>>>>> -		}                                               \
>>>>>>> +		(mp)->stats[rte_lcore_id() + 1].name += n;      \
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This relies on LCORE_ID_ANY being UINT32_MAX, and a wrap to 0, for
>>>> an
>>>>>> unregistered non-EAL thread? Might be worth a comment, or better a
>>>>>> rewrite with an explicit LCORE_ID_ANY comparison.
>>>>>
>>>>> The purpose of this patch is to avoid the comparison here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, it relies on the wrap to zero, and these conditions:
>>>>> 1. LCORE_ID_ANY being UINT32_MAX, and
>>>>> 2. the return type of rte_lcore_id() being unsigned int, and
>>>>> 3. unsigned int being uint32_t.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I wrote this, I considered it safe to assume that LCORE_ID_ANY
>>>> will remain the unsigned equivalent of -1 using the return type of
>>>> rte_lcore_id(). In other words: If the return type of rte_lcore_id()
>>>> should change from 32 to 64 bit, LCORE_ID_ANY would be updated
>>>> accordingly to UINT64_MAX.
>>>>>
>>>>> Because of this assumption, I didn't use [(rte_lcore_id() + 1) &
>>>> UINT32_MAX], but just [rte_lcore_id() + 1].
>>>>>
>>>>> I struggled writing an appropriate comment without making it
>>>> unacceptably long, but eventually gave up, and settled for the one-
>> line
>>>> comment in the structure only.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You anyways need a conditional. An atomic add must be used in the
>>>>>> unregistered EAL thread case.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good point: The "+= n" must be atomic for non-isolated threads.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If the various unregistered non-EAL threads are run on isolated
>> cores
>>>> or not does not matter.
>>>
>>> Agree: They all share the same index, and thus may race, regardless
>> which cores they are using.
>>>
>>> Rephrasing: The "+= n" must be atomic for the unregistered non-EAL
>> threads.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I just took a look at how software maintained stats are handled
>>>> elsewhere, and the first thing I found, is the IOAT DMA driver,
>> which
>>>> also seems to be using non-atomic increment [1] regardless if used
>> by a
>>>> DPDK thread or not.
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]: https://elixir.bootlin.com/dpdk/v22.11-
>>>> rc2/source/drivers/dma/ioat/ioat_dmadev.c#L228
>>>>>
>>>>> However, doing it wrong elsewhere doesn't make it correct doing it
>>>> wrong here too. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Atomic increments are costly, so I would rather follow your
>>>> suggestion and reintroduce the comparison. How about:
>>>>>
>>>>> #define RTE_MEMPOOL_STAT_ADD(mp, name, n) do { \
>>>>>        unsigned int __lcore_id = rte_lcore_id(); \
>>>>>        if (likely(__lcore_id < RTE_MAX_LCORE)) { \
>>>>>            (mp)->stats[__lcore_id].name += n; \
>>>>>        } else {
>>>>>            rte_atomic64_add( \
>>>>>                    (rte_atomic64_t*)&((mp)-
>>> stats[RTE_MAX_LCORE].name),
>>>> n);\
>>>>>        } \
>>>>> }
>>>> You are supposed to use GCC C11 intrinsics (e.g.,
>>>> __atomic_fetch_add()).
>>>
>>> Ups. I forgot!
>>>
>>> This should be emphasized everywhere in the rte_atomic library, to
>> prevent such mistakes.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> In addition: technically, you must use an atomic store for the EAL
>>>> thread case (and an atomic load on the reader side), although there
>> are
>>>> tons of examples in DPDK where tearing is ignored. (The generated
>> code
>>>> will likely look the same.)
>>>
>>> The counters are 64 bit aligned, but tearing could happen on 32 bit
>> architectures.
>>>
>>
>> The compiler is free to do it on any architecture, but I'm not sure if
>> it happens much in practice.
>>
>>> My initial reaction to your comment was to do it correctly on the EAL
>> threads too, to avoid tearing there too. However, there might be a
>> performance cost for 32 bit architectures, so I will consider that
>> these are only debug counters, and accept the risk of tearing.
>>>
>>
>> What would that cost consist of?
> 
> I have tested it this morning on Godbolt: https://godbolt.org/z/fz7f3cv8b
> 
> ctr += n becomes:
> 
>          add     QWORD PTR ctr[rip], rdi
> 
> Whereas __atomic_fetch_add(&ctr, n, __ATOMIC_RELAXED) becomes:
>   
>          lock add        QWORD PTR ctr[rip], rdi
> 

Since there is a single writer/producer, only the store need be atomic, 
not the complete load+add+store sequence.

__atomic_store_n(&ctr, ctr + 1, __ATOMIC_RELAXED);

Such a construct will not result in a lock add instruction.

I've happened to finished a draft version of a chapter on this topic, in 
the data plane book I'm writing:
https://ericsson.github.io/dataplanebook/stats/stats.html#per-core-counters

I will add a section with this "add an extra instance to deal with 
unregistered non-EAL threads" approach taken in your patch.

>>
>> In theory C11 atomics could be implemented "in software" (i.e., without
>> the proper ISA-level guarantees, with locks), but does any of the
>> DPDK-supported compiler/32-bit ISAs actually do so?
> 
> Adding -m32 to the compiler options, ctr += n becomes:
> 
>          xor     edx, edx
>          mov     eax, DWORD PTR [esp+4]
>          add     DWORD PTR ctr, eax
>          adc     DWORD PTR ctr+4, edx
> 
> And __atomic_fetch_add(&ctr, n, __ATOMIC_RELAXED) becomes:
> 
>          push    edi
>          xor     edi, edi
>          push    esi
>          push    ebx
>          sub     esp, 8
>          mov     esi, DWORD PTR [esp+24]
>          mov     eax, DWORD PTR ctr
>          mov     edx, DWORD PTR ctr+4
> .L4:
>          mov     ecx, eax
>          mov     ebx, edx
>          add     ecx, esi
>          adc     ebx, edi
>          mov     DWORD PTR [esp], ecx
>          mov     DWORD PTR [esp+4], ebx
>          mov     ebx, DWORD PTR [esp]
>          mov     ecx, DWORD PTR [esp+4]
>          lock cmpxchg8b  QWORD PTR ctr
>          jne     .L4
>          add     esp, 8
>          pop     ebx
>          pop     esi
>          pop     edi
> 
>>
>> It's also not obvious that if there, for a certain
>> compiler/ISA-combination, is a performance impact to pay for
>> correctness, correctness would have to give way.
> 
> In this particular case, and because they are only debug counters, I will argue that DPDK generally uses non-atomic access to 64 bit statistics counters. This was also the case for these counters before this patch.
> 
> I am planning to finish v3 of this patch series today, so I hope you can agree to close the atomicity discussion with another argument: Making statistics counters atomic should be elevated to a general patch across DPDK, and not part of this mempool patch series.
> 

As I think I indicated, I think this is a minor issue. I'm OK with the 
code as-written.

> The v3 patch (which I am working on right now) counts atomically for the unregistered non-EAL threads:
> 
> #define RTE_MEMPOOL_STAT_ADD(mp, name, n) do {                                  \
> 		unsigned int __lcore_id = rte_lcore_id();                       \
> 		if (likely(__lcore_id < RTE_MAX_LCORE))                         \
> 			(mp)->stats[__lcore_id].name += n;                      \
> 		else                                                            \
> 			__atomic_fetch_add(&((mp)->stats[RTE_MAX_LCORE].name),  \
> 					   n, __ATOMIC_RELAXED);                \
> 	} while (0)
> 
> PS: Excellent discussion - thank you for getting involved, Mattias.
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-07  7:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-30 11:54 [PATCH] mempool: split statistics from debug Morten Brørup
2022-10-30 14:04 ` Morten Brørup
2022-10-30 16:12   ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-10-30 20:29     ` Morten Brørup
2022-10-31 11:26 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] " Morten Brørup
2022-10-31 11:26   ` [PATCH v2 2/3] mempool: include non-DPDK threads in statistics Morten Brørup
2022-11-02  7:52     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-11-02  9:09       ` Morten Brørup
2022-11-02 15:19         ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-11-02 15:37           ` Morten Brørup
2022-11-02 17:53         ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-11-03  8:59           ` Morten Brørup
2022-11-04  8:58             ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-11-04 10:01               ` Morten Brørup
2022-11-07  7:26                 ` Mattias Rönnblom [this message]
2022-11-07  8:56                   ` Morten Brørup
2022-10-31 11:26   ` [PATCH v2 3/3] mempool: use cache for frequently updated statistics Morten Brørup
2022-11-02  8:01     ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-11-02  9:29       ` Morten Brørup
2022-11-02 17:55         ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-11-04 11:17   ` [PATCH v3 1/3] mempool: split stats from debug Morten Brørup
2022-11-04 11:17     ` [PATCH v3 2/3] mempool: add stats for unregistered non-EAL threads Morten Brørup
2022-11-04 11:17     ` [PATCH v3 3/3] mempool: use cache for frequently updated stats Morten Brørup
2022-11-04 12:03     ` [PATCH v4 1/3] mempool: split stats from debug Morten Brørup
2022-11-04 12:03       ` [PATCH v4 2/3] mempool: add stats for unregistered non-EAL threads Morten Brørup
2022-11-06 11:34         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-11-04 12:03       ` [PATCH v4 3/3] mempool: use cache for frequently updated stats Morten Brørup
2022-11-06 11:40         ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-11-06 11:50           ` Morten Brørup
2022-11-06 11:59             ` Andrew Rybchenko
2022-11-06 12:16               ` Morten Brørup
2022-11-07  7:30         ` Mattias Rönnblom
2022-11-08  9:20         ` Konstantin Ananyev
2022-11-08 11:21           ` Morten Brørup
2022-11-06 11:32       ` [PATCH v4 1/3] mempool: split stats from debug Andrew Rybchenko
2022-11-09 18:18       ` [PATCH v5 " Morten Brørup
2022-11-09 18:18         ` [PATCH v5 2/3] mempool: add stats for unregistered non-EAL threads Morten Brørup
2022-11-09 18:18         ` [PATCH v5 3/3] mempool: use cache for frequently updated stats Morten Brørup
2022-11-10 16:36           ` Thomas Monjalon

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