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From: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>
To: "Yigit, Ferruh" <ferruh.yigit@linux.intel.com>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org, Tom Barbette <barbette@kth.se>,
	Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>,
	Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@mellanox.com>,
	Andrew Rybchenko <arybchenko@solarflare.com>,
	"bruce.richardson@intel.com" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	"john.mcnamara@intel.com" <john.mcnamara@intel.com>,
	Yongseok Koh <yskoh@mellanox.com>,
	Alejandro Lucero <alejandro.lucero@netronome.com>,
	Konstantin Ananyev <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/3] rte_ethdev: Add API function to read dev clock
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 15:48:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3407362.WhE9PAp8Q4@xps> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <688f9052-b861-0446-5eda-44952bb39f1e@linux.intel.com>

19/03/2019 14:32, Yigit, Ferruh:
> On 1/8/2019 11:30 AM, Tom Barbette wrote:
> > Ferruh Yigit wrote:
> >> Why timestamp offloading become useless? When timestamp offloading enabled,
> >> device fills 'mbuf.timestamp' and you can use it.
> > But the frequency is unknown, and the reference time neither. So it can be used only to know that "some time passed" between packets.
> > 
> >> For your case this timestamp for mlx is device clock and you are adding this API
> >> to be able to convert device clock to real time, this is not something enables
> >> the timestamp offload.
> > I get your point, but a keyboard is highly required to use a computer. It's pretty much useless without it. Without this API, the timestamp offload makes no sense. It's a random number generator at best...
> > 
> >> Technically driver can set the 'mbuf.timestamp' with the real clock right, if it
> >> is required? Or this can be defined by a devarg?
> > I don't think so. Device have no sense of system time. And doing it in the driver is tricky because it depends on the user needs. Catch-up with NTP updates would need a timer and various parameters... Hence we prefer to give a simple working code, and users may do this if they want.
> > 
> > 
> > For the other comments it's not my call... I would just underline that timestamp offload is not usable in the current state, and there is a lot of use case for monitoring latency-sensitive applications.
> 
> Hi Thomas, Andrew,
> 
> CAn you please comment on patch, it adds a new 'rte_eth_read_clock()' API to
> read device clock to read timestamp value, later to use this value to map to the
> actual time.
> So that can convert timestamp information from each packet into real time.

The approach is smart in my opinion.
It is requesting the time generator (at its source) and allowing
the app to do any kind of time handling strategy.

> My question was if this is common requirement or specific to single device?

It will work with any device providing some timestamps.
There is nothing specific here in my opinion.

> And if can be handles in driver level.

Yes, it may be handled differently.
But this approach looks to be the most flexible and reliable.

Acked-by: Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-03-20 14:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-21  8:25 Tom Barbette
2018-12-23  6:06 ` Shahaf Shuler
2019-01-02 17:44   ` Ferruh Yigit
2019-01-08 11:30     ` Tom Barbette
2019-03-19 13:32       ` Yigit, Ferruh
2019-03-19 13:32         ` Yigit, Ferruh
2019-03-20 14:48         ` Thomas Monjalon [this message]
2019-03-20 14:48           ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-03-20 15:57           ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-03-20 15:57             ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-03-21 19:37             ` Ferruh Yigit
2019-03-21 19:37               ` Ferruh Yigit
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-12-19 13:49 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/3] Add rte_eth_read_clock API Tom Barbette
2018-12-19 13:49 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/3] rte_ethdev: Add API function to read dev clock Tom Barbette
2018-12-20  6:42   ` Shahaf Shuler
2018-12-20 19:55   ` Ferruh Yigit

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