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From: "Dumitrescu, Cristian" <cristian.dumitrescu@intel.com>
To: "Richardson, Bruce" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	Olivier MATZ <olivier.matz@6wind.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 07/13] mbuf: use macros only to access the mbuf metadata
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 16:56:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3EB4FA525960D640B5BDFFD6A3D891262E070D42@IRSMSX108.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <59AF69C657FD0841A61C55336867B5B0343EFAA3@IRSMSX103.ger.corp.intel.com>

Bruce, Olivier, 

What is the reason to remove this field? Please explain the rationale of removing this field.

We previously agreed we need to provide an easy and standard mechanism for applications to extend the mandatory per buffer metadata (mbuf) with optional application-dependent metadata. This field just provides a clean way for the apps to know where is the end of the mandatory metadata, i.e. the first location in the packet buffer where the app can add its own metadata (of course, the app has to manage the headroom space before the first byte of packet data). A zero-size field is the standard mechanism that DPDK uses extensively in pretty much every library to access memory immediately after a header structure.

The impact of removing this field is that there is no standard way to identify where the end of the mandatory metadata is, so each application will have to reinvent this. With no clear convention, we will end up with a lot of non-standard ways. Every time the format of the mbuf structure is going to be changed, this can potentially break applications that use custom metadata, while using this simple standard mechanism would prevent this. So why remove this?

Having applications define their optional meta-data is a real need. Please take a look at the Service Chaining IEFT emerging protocols (https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/sfc/documents/), which provide standard mechanisms for applications to define their own packet meta-data and share it between the elements of the processing pipeline (for Service Chaining, these are typically virtual machines scattered amongst the data center).

And, in my opinion, there is no negative impact/cost associated with keeping this field.

Regards,
Cristian


-----Original Message-----
From: dev [mailto:dev-bounces@dpdk.org] On Behalf Of Richardson, Bruce
Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2014 10:01 AM
To: Olivier MATZ; dev@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 07/13] mbuf: use macros only to access the mbuf metadata

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Olivier MATZ [mailto:olivier.matz@6wind.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 1:06 PM
> To: Richardson, Bruce; dev@dpdk.org
> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 07/13] mbuf: use macros only to access the
> mbuf metadata
> 
> Hi Bruce,
> 
> On 09/03/2014 05:49 PM, Bruce Richardson wrote:
> > Removed the explicit zero-sized metadata definition at the end of the
> > mbuf data structure. Updated the metadata macros to take account of this
> > change so that all existing code which uses those macros still works.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
> > ---
> >  lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf.h | 22 ++++++++--------------
> >  1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 14 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf.h b/lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf.h
> > index 5260001..ca66d9a 100644
> > --- a/lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf.h
> > +++ b/lib/librte_mbuf/rte_mbuf.h
> > @@ -166,31 +166,25 @@ struct rte_mbuf {
> >  	struct rte_mempool *pool; /**< Pool from which mbuf was allocated.
> */
> >  	struct rte_mbuf *next;    /**< Next segment of scattered packet. */
> >
> > -	union {
> > -		uint8_t metadata[0];
> > -		uint16_t metadata16[0];
> > -		uint32_t metadata32[0];
> > -		uint64_t metadata64[0];
> > -	} __rte_cache_aligned;
> >  } __rte_cache_aligned;
> >
> >  #define RTE_MBUF_METADATA_UINT8(mbuf, offset)              \
> > -	(mbuf->metadata[offset])
> > +	(((uint8_t *)&(mbuf)[1])[offset])
> >  #define RTE_MBUF_METADATA_UINT16(mbuf, offset)             \
> > -	(mbuf->metadata16[offset/sizeof(uint16_t)])
> > +	(((uint16_t *)&(mbuf)[1])[offset/sizeof(uint16_t)])
> >  #define RTE_MBUF_METADATA_UINT32(mbuf, offset)             \
> > -	(mbuf->metadata32[offset/sizeof(uint32_t)])
> > +	(((uint32_t *)&(mbuf)[1])[offset/sizeof(uint32_t)])
> >  #define RTE_MBUF_METADATA_UINT64(mbuf, offset)             \
> > -	(mbuf->metadata64[offset/sizeof(uint64_t)])
> > +	(((uint64_t *)&(mbuf)[1])[offset/sizeof(uint64_t)])
> >
> >  #define RTE_MBUF_METADATA_UINT8_PTR(mbuf, offset)          \
> > -	(&mbuf->metadata[offset])
> > +	(&RTE_MBUF_METADATA_UINT8(mbuf, offset))
> >  #define RTE_MBUF_METADATA_UINT16_PTR(mbuf, offset)         \
> > -	(&mbuf->metadata16[offset/sizeof(uint16_t)])
> > +	(&RTE_MBUF_METADATA_UINT16(mbuf, offset))
> >  #define RTE_MBUF_METADATA_UINT32_PTR(mbuf, offset)         \
> > -	(&mbuf->metadata32[offset/sizeof(uint32_t)])
> > +	(&RTE_MBUF_METADATA_UINT32(mbuf, offset))
> >  #define RTE_MBUF_METADATA_UINT64_PTR(mbuf, offset)         \
> > -	(&mbuf->metadata64[offset/sizeof(uint64_t)])
> > +	(&RTE_MBUF_METADATA_UINT64(mbuf, offset))
> >
> >  /**
> >   * Given the buf_addr returns the pointer to corresponding mbuf.
> >
> 
> I think it goes in the good direction. So:
> Acked-by: Olivier Matz <olivier.matz@6wind.com>
> 
> Just one question: why not removing RTE_MBUF_METADATA*() macros?
> I'd just provide one macro that gives a (void*) to the first byte
> after the mbuf structure.
> 
> The format of the metadata is up to the application, that usually
> casts (m + 1) into a private structure, making the macros not very
> useful. I suggest to move these macros outside rte_mbuf.h, in the
> application-specific or library-specific header, what do you think?
> 
> Regards,
> Olivier
> 
Yes, I'll look into that.

/Bruce
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  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-12 16:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-03 15:49 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 00/13] Mbuf Structure Rework, part 2 Bruce Richardson
2014-09-03 15:49 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 01/13] mbuf: replace data pointer by an offset Bruce Richardson
2014-09-08  9:52   ` Olivier MATZ
2014-09-08  9:55     ` Olivier MATZ
2014-09-03 15:49 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 02/13] mbuf: reorder fields by time of use Bruce Richardson
2014-09-08 10:17   ` Olivier MATZ
2014-09-03 15:49 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 03/13] mbuf: add packet_type field Bruce Richardson
2014-09-08 10:17   ` Olivier MATZ
2014-09-08 10:33     ` Yerden Zhumabekov
2014-09-08 11:17       ` Olivier MATZ
2014-09-09  3:59         ` Zhang, Helin
     [not found]           ` <540EB428.9060706@6wind.com>
2014-09-09  8:45             ` Zhang, Helin
2014-09-09  9:47             ` Richardson, Bruce
2014-09-09 15:05         ` Jim Thompson
2014-09-03 15:49 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 04/13] mbuf: expand ol_flags field to 64-bits Bruce Richardson
2014-09-08 10:25   ` Olivier MATZ
2014-09-09  9:00     ` Richardson, Bruce
2014-09-03 15:49 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 05/13] mbuf: introduce a flag to indicate a control mbuf Bruce Richardson
2014-09-08 11:53   ` Olivier MATZ
2014-09-03 15:49 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 06/13] mbuf: minor changes for readability Bruce Richardson
2014-09-08 12:03   ` Olivier MATZ
2014-09-03 15:49 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 07/13] mbuf: use macros only to access the mbuf metadata Bruce Richardson
2014-09-08 12:05   ` Olivier MATZ
2014-09-09  9:01     ` Richardson, Bruce
2014-09-12 16:56       ` Dumitrescu, Cristian [this message]
2014-09-12 21:02         ` Olivier MATZ
2014-09-16 20:07           ` Dumitrescu, Cristian
2014-09-16 22:06             ` Ramia, Kannan Babu
2014-09-17 10:31               ` Richardson, Bruce
2014-09-17 14:01                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2014-09-10 15:09     ` Bruce Richardson
2014-09-10 15:31       ` Olivier MATZ
2014-09-03 15:49 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 08/13] mbuf: add named points inside the mbuf structure Bruce Richardson
2014-09-08 12:08   ` Olivier MATZ
2014-09-03 15:49 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 09/13] ixgbe: rework vector pmd following mbuf changes Bruce Richardson
2014-09-03 15:49 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 10/13] mbuf: split mbuf across two cache lines Bruce Richardson
2014-09-08 12:10   ` Olivier MATZ
2014-09-03 15:49 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 11/13] mbuf: move l2_len and l3_len to second cache line Bruce Richardson
2014-09-04  5:08   ` Yerden Zhumabekov
2014-09-04 10:27     ` Bruce Richardson
2014-09-04 11:00       ` Yerden Zhumabekov
2014-09-04 11:55         ` Bruce Richardson
2014-09-03 15:49 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 12/13] ixgbe: Fix perf regression due to moved pool ptr Bruce Richardson
2014-09-03 15:49 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 13/13] ixgbe: Improve slow-path perf: vector scattered RX Bruce Richardson
2014-09-11 13:15 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 00/13] Mbuf Structure Rework, part 2 Bruce Richardson
2014-09-11 13:15   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 01/13] mbuf: replace data pointer by an offset Bruce Richardson
2014-09-11 13:15   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 02/13] mbuf: reorder fields by time of use Bruce Richardson
2014-09-15  7:11     ` Liu, Jijiang
2014-09-15  8:19       ` Richardson, Bruce
2014-09-11 13:15   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 03/13] mbuf: expand ol_flags field to 64-bits Bruce Richardson
2014-09-11 13:15   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 04/13] mbuf: introduce a flag to indicate a control mbuf Bruce Richardson
2014-09-11 13:15   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 05/13] mbuf: minor changes for readability Bruce Richardson
2014-09-11 13:15   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 06/13] mbuf: use macros only to access the mbuf metadata Bruce Richardson
2014-09-11 13:15   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 07/13] mbuf: move metadata macros to rte_port library Bruce Richardson
2014-09-11 13:15   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 08/13] mbuf: add named points inside the mbuf structure Bruce Richardson
2014-09-11 13:15   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 09/13] ixgbe: rework vector pmd following mbuf changes Bruce Richardson
2014-09-11 13:15   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 10/13] mbuf: split mbuf across two cache lines Bruce Richardson
2014-09-11 13:15   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 11/13] mbuf: move l2_len and l3_len to second cache line Bruce Richardson
2014-09-11 13:15   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 12/13] ixgbe: Fix perf regression due to moved pool ptr Bruce Richardson
2014-09-15 16:20     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 " Bruce Richardson
2014-09-11 13:15   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 13/13] ixgbe: Improve slow-path perf: vector scattered RX Bruce Richardson
2014-09-17 22:35   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 00/13] Mbuf Structure Rework, part 2 Thomas Monjalon

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