[dpdk-dev] [RFC] pci: force address of mappings in secondary process

[dpdk-dev] [RFC] pci: force address of mappings in secondary process

[Stephen Hemminger]

The PCI memory resources in the secondary process should be in
the exact same location as the primary process. Otherwise
there is a risk of a stray pointer.

Not sure if this is right, but it looks like a potential
problem.

---
 lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c b/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
index 367a6816dcb8..2156b1a436c4 100644
--- a/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
+++ b/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
@@ -77,7 +77,7 @@ pci_uio_map_secondary(struct rte_pci_device *dev)
 
 			void *mapaddr = pci_map_resource(uio_res->maps[i].addr,
 					fd, (off_t)uio_res->maps[i].offset,
-					(size_t)uio_res->maps[i].size, 0);
+					(size_t)uio_res->maps[i].size, MAP_FIXED);
 			/* fd is not needed in slave process, close it */
 			close(fd);
 			if (mapaddr != uio_res->maps[i].addr) {
-- 
2.11.0

Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] pci: force address of mappings in secondary process

[Tan, Jianfeng]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev [mailto:dev-bounces@dpdk.org] On Behalf Of Stephen
> Hemminger
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 9:13 AM
> To: dev@dpdk.org
> Cc: Stephen Hemminger
> Subject: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] pci: force address of mappings in secondary
> process
> 
> The PCI memory resources in the secondary process should be in
> the exact same location as the primary process. Otherwise
> there is a risk of a stray pointer.
> 
> Not sure if this is right, but it looks like a potential
> problem.
> 
> ---
>  lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c | 2 +-
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
> b/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
> index 367a6816dcb8..2156b1a436c4 100644
> --- a/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
> +++ b/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
> @@ -77,7 +77,7 @@ pci_uio_map_secondary(struct rte_pci_device *dev)
> 
>  			void *mapaddr = pci_map_resource(uio_res-
> >maps[i].addr,
>  					fd, (off_t)uio_res->maps[i].offset,
> -					(size_t)uio_res->maps[i].size, 0);
> +					(size_t)uio_res->maps[i].size,
> MAP_FIXED);
>  			/* fd is not needed in slave process, close it */
>  			close(fd);
>  			if (mapaddr != uio_res->maps[i].addr) {
> --
> 2.11.0

+1 for this RFC. I also once encounter such problem, and I use the same way to solve it. The addr parameter of mmap() syscall is only a hint instead of a must even the VMA is not occupied yet.

Thanks,
Jianfeng

Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] pci: force address of mappings in secondary process

[Sergio Gonzalez Monroy]

On 11/07/2017 02:56, Tan, Jianfeng wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dev [mailto:dev-bounces@dpdk.org] On Behalf Of Stephen
>> Hemminger
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 9:13 AM
>> To: dev@dpdk.org
>> Cc: Stephen Hemminger
>> Subject: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] pci: force address of mappings in secondary
>> process
>>
>> The PCI memory resources in the secondary process should be in
>> the exact same location as the primary process. Otherwise
>> there is a risk of a stray pointer.
>>
>> Not sure if this is right, but it looks like a potential
>> problem.
>>
>> ---
>>   lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c | 2 +-
>>   1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
>> b/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
>> index 367a6816dcb8..2156b1a436c4 100644
>> --- a/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
>> +++ b/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
>> @@ -77,7 +77,7 @@ pci_uio_map_secondary(struct rte_pci_device *dev)
>>
>>   			void *mapaddr = pci_map_resource(uio_res-
>>> maps[i].addr,
>>   					fd, (off_t)uio_res->maps[i].offset,
>> -					(size_t)uio_res->maps[i].size, 0);
>> +					(size_t)uio_res->maps[i].size,
>> MAP_FIXED);
>>   			/* fd is not needed in slave process, close it */
>>   			close(fd);
>>   			if (mapaddr != uio_res->maps[i].addr) {
>> --
>> 2.11.0
> +1 for this RFC. I also once encounter such problem, and I use the same way to solve it. The addr parameter of mmap() syscall is only a hint instead of a must even the VMA is not occupied yet.
>
> Thanks,
> Jianfeng

How do you know the VMA is not occupied?

I think the risk here is that the dynamic linker loaded some shared 
library in that VMA, and forcing MAP_FIXED is not a safe solution.
What I have observed is that Linux will return a different VMA than the 
one hinted when there is already a mapping in the requested/hinted VMA.

I reckon this is a similar issue as we have with the multi-process model 
when we do not get the VMA requested for the huge-pages.
AFAIK we do not have a robust solution for this issue other than restart 
the program and hope the dynamic linker does not map anything in the VMA 
ranges that we need to map from the primary. This is also assuming that 
the application does not allocate memory and maps things before calling 
eal_init as it could potentially use VMA ranges that we need in the 
secondary process.

The proposal for new secondary process model would solve these issues:
http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/dev/2017-May/066147.html

Thanks,
Sergio

Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] pci: force address of mappings in secondary process

[Stephen Hemminger]

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 12:35:39 +0100
Sergio Gonzalez Monroy <sergio.gonzalez.monroy@intel.com> wrote:

> On 11/07/2017 02:56, Tan, Jianfeng wrote:
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: dev [mailto:dev-bounces@dpdk.org] On Behalf Of Stephen
> >> Hemminger
> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 9:13 AM
> >> To: dev@dpdk.org
> >> Cc: Stephen Hemminger
> >> Subject: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] pci: force address of mappings in secondary
> >> process
> >>
> >> The PCI memory resources in the secondary process should be in
> >> the exact same location as the primary process. Otherwise
> >> there is a risk of a stray pointer.
> >>
> >> Not sure if this is right, but it looks like a potential
> >> problem.
> >>
> >> ---
> >>   lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c | 2 +-
> >>   1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
> >> b/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
> >> index 367a6816dcb8..2156b1a436c4 100644
> >> --- a/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
> >> +++ b/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
> >> @@ -77,7 +77,7 @@ pci_uio_map_secondary(struct rte_pci_device *dev)
> >>
> >>   			void *mapaddr = pci_map_resource(uio_res-  
> >>> maps[i].addr,  
> >>   					fd, (off_t)uio_res->maps[i].offset,
> >> -					(size_t)uio_res->maps[i].size, 0);
> >> +					(size_t)uio_res->maps[i].size,
> >> MAP_FIXED);
> >>   			/* fd is not needed in slave process, close it */
> >>   			close(fd);
> >>   			if (mapaddr != uio_res->maps[i].addr) {
> >> --
> >> 2.11.0  
> > +1 for this RFC. I also once encounter such problem, and I use the same way to solve it. The addr parameter of mmap() syscall is only a hint instead of a must even the VMA is not occupied yet.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jianfeng  
> 
> How do you know the VMA is not occupied?
> 
> I think the risk here is that the dynamic linker loaded some shared 
> library in that VMA, and forcing MAP_FIXED is not a safe solution.
> What I have observed is that Linux will return a different VMA than the 
> one hinted when there is already a mapping in the requested/hinted VMA.
> 
> I reckon this is a similar issue as we have with the multi-process model 
> when we do not get the VMA requested for the huge-pages.
> AFAIK we do not have a robust solution for this issue other than restart 
> the program and hope the dynamic linker does not map anything in the VMA 
> ranges that we need to map from the primary. This is also assuming that 
> the application does not allocate memory and maps things before calling 
> eal_init as it could potentially use VMA ranges that we need in the 
> secondary process.
> 
> The proposal for new secondary process model would solve these issues:
> http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/dev/2017-May/066147.html
> 
> Thanks,
> Sergio

That proposal defeats some of the isolation of secondary process model.
The idea is that secondary could be built separately. It is also overly
complex and would make a somewhat fragile part of the DPDK, more difficult.

Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] pci: force address of mappings in secondary process

[Tan, Jianfeng]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gonzalez Monroy, Sergio
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 7:36 PM
> To: Tan, Jianfeng; Stephen Hemminger; dev@dpdk.org
> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] pci: force address of mappings in secondary
> process
> 
> On 11/07/2017 02:56, Tan, Jianfeng wrote:
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: dev [mailto:dev-bounces@dpdk.org] On Behalf Of Stephen
> >> Hemminger
> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 9:13 AM
> >> To: dev@dpdk.org
> >> Cc: Stephen Hemminger
> >> Subject: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] pci: force address of mappings in secondary
> >> process
> >>
> >> The PCI memory resources in the secondary process should be in
> >> the exact same location as the primary process. Otherwise
> >> there is a risk of a stray pointer.
> >>
> >> Not sure if this is right, but it looks like a potential
> >> problem.
> >>
> >> ---
> >>   lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c | 2 +-
> >>   1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
> >> b/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
> >> index 367a6816dcb8..2156b1a436c4 100644
> >> --- a/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
> >> +++ b/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
> >> @@ -77,7 +77,7 @@ pci_uio_map_secondary(struct rte_pci_device *dev)
> >>
> >>   			void *mapaddr = pci_map_resource(uio_res-
> >>> maps[i].addr,
> >>   					fd, (off_t)uio_res->maps[i].offset,
> >> -					(size_t)uio_res->maps[i].size, 0);
> >> +					(size_t)uio_res->maps[i].size,
> >> MAP_FIXED);
> >>   			/* fd is not needed in slave process, close it */
> >>   			close(fd);
> >>   			if (mapaddr != uio_res->maps[i].addr) {
> >> --
> >> 2.11.0
> > +1 for this RFC. I also once encounter such problem, and I use the same
> way to solve it. The addr parameter of mmap() syscall is only a hint instead of
> a must even the VMA is not occupied yet.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jianfeng
> 
> How do you know the VMA is not occupied?

I did by check /proc/self/maps.

> 
> I think the risk here is that the dynamic linker loaded some shared
> library in that VMA, and forcing MAP_FIXED is not a safe solution.
> What I have observed is that Linux will return a different VMA than the
> one hinted when there is already a mapping in the requested/hinted VMA.

IMO, that's not the target of this RFC. The target is to solve the situation (in current primary/secondary model) that kernel will not use the addr even there's no VMA on that addr. This is my understanding, Stephen, please correct me if I'm wrong.

> 
> I reckon this is a similar issue as we have with the multi-process model
> when we do not get the VMA requested for the huge-pages.
> AFAIK we do not have a robust solution for this issue other than restart
> the program and hope the dynamic linker does not map anything in the VMA
> ranges that we need to map from the primary. This is also assuming that
> the application does not allocate memory and maps things before calling
> eal_init as it could potentially use VMA ranges that we need in the
> secondary process.

This is another problem.

> 
> The proposal for new secondary process model would solve these issues:
> http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/dev/2017-May/066147.html

And yes, this might happen to solve the targeted issue in this RFC. But before the new model is out, this patch seems a workable way for the original issue.

Thanks,
Jianfeng

> 
> Thanks,
> Sergio

Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] pci: force address of mappings in secondary process

[Sergio Gonzalez Monroy]

On 11/07/2017 21:00, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 12:35:39 +0100
> Sergio Gonzalez Monroy <sergio.gonzalez.monroy@intel.com> wrote:
>
>> On 11/07/2017 02:56, Tan, Jianfeng wrote:
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: dev [mailto:dev-bounces@dpdk.org] On Behalf Of Stephen
>>>> Hemminger
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 9:13 AM
>>>> To: dev@dpdk.org
>>>> Cc: Stephen Hemminger
>>>> Subject: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] pci: force address of mappings in secondary
>>>> process
>>>>
>>>> The PCI memory resources in the secondary process should be in
>>>> the exact same location as the primary process. Otherwise
>>>> there is a risk of a stray pointer.
>>>>
>>>> Not sure if this is right, but it looks like a potential
>>>> problem.
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>>    lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c | 2 +-
>>>>    1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
>>>> b/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
>>>> index 367a6816dcb8..2156b1a436c4 100644
>>>> --- a/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
>>>> +++ b/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
>>>> @@ -77,7 +77,7 @@ pci_uio_map_secondary(struct rte_pci_device *dev)
>>>>
>>>>    			void *mapaddr = pci_map_resource(uio_res-
>>>>> maps[i].addr,
>>>>    					fd, (off_t)uio_res->maps[i].offset,
>>>> -					(size_t)uio_res->maps[i].size, 0);
>>>> +					(size_t)uio_res->maps[i].size,
>>>> MAP_FIXED);
>>>>    			/* fd is not needed in slave process, close it */
>>>>    			close(fd);
>>>>    			if (mapaddr != uio_res->maps[i].addr) {
>>>> --
>>>> 2.11.0
>>> +1 for this RFC. I also once encounter such problem, and I use the same way to solve it. The addr parameter of mmap() syscall is only a hint instead of a must even the VMA is not occupied yet.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jianfeng
>> How do you know the VMA is not occupied?
>>
>> I think the risk here is that the dynamic linker loaded some shared
>> library in that VMA, and forcing MAP_FIXED is not a safe solution.
>> What I have observed is that Linux will return a different VMA than the
>> one hinted when there is already a mapping in the requested/hinted VMA.
>>
>> I reckon this is a similar issue as we have with the multi-process model
>> when we do not get the VMA requested for the huge-pages.
>> AFAIK we do not have a robust solution for this issue other than restart
>> the program and hope the dynamic linker does not map anything in the VMA
>> ranges that we need to map from the primary. This is also assuming that
>> the application does not allocate memory and maps things before calling
>> eal_init as it could potentially use VMA ranges that we need in the
>> secondary process.
>>
>> The proposal for new secondary process model would solve these issues:
>> http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/dev/2017-May/066147.html
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sergio
> That proposal defeats some of the isolation of secondary process model.
> The idea is that secondary could be built separately. It is also overly
> complex and would make a somewhat fragile part of the DPDK, more difficult.
>

I did not mean/want to change the focus of this thread.
Those are valid concerns which should be discussed in its own thread.

Thanks,
Sergio

Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] pci: force address of mappings in secondary process

[Sergio Gonzalez Monroy]

On 12/07/2017 03:45, Tan, Jianfeng wrote:
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gonzalez Monroy, Sergio
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 7:36 PM
>> To: Tan, Jianfeng; Stephen Hemminger; dev@dpdk.org
>> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] pci: force address of mappings in secondary
>> process
>>
>> On 11/07/2017 02:56, Tan, Jianfeng wrote:
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: dev [mailto:dev-bounces@dpdk.org] On Behalf Of Stephen
>>>> Hemminger
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 9:13 AM
>>>> To: dev@dpdk.org
>>>> Cc: Stephen Hemminger
>>>> Subject: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] pci: force address of mappings in secondary
>>>> process
>>>>
>>>> The PCI memory resources in the secondary process should be in
>>>> the exact same location as the primary process. Otherwise
>>>> there is a risk of a stray pointer.
>>>>
>>>> Not sure if this is right, but it looks like a potential
>>>> problem.
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>>    lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c | 2 +-
>>>>    1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
>>>> b/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
>>>> index 367a6816dcb8..2156b1a436c4 100644
>>>> --- a/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
>>>> +++ b/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
>>>> @@ -77,7 +77,7 @@ pci_uio_map_secondary(struct rte_pci_device *dev)
>>>>
>>>>    			void *mapaddr = pci_map_resource(uio_res-
>>>>> maps[i].addr,
>>>>    					fd, (off_t)uio_res->maps[i].offset,
>>>> -					(size_t)uio_res->maps[i].size, 0);
>>>> +					(size_t)uio_res->maps[i].size,
>>>> MAP_FIXED);
>>>>    			/* fd is not needed in slave process, close it */
>>>>    			close(fd);
>>>>    			if (mapaddr != uio_res->maps[i].addr) {
>>>> --
>>>> 2.11.0
>>> +1 for this RFC. I also once encounter such problem, and I use the same
>> way to solve it. The addr parameter of mmap() syscall is only a hint instead of
>> a must even the VMA is not occupied yet.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jianfeng
>> How do you know the VMA is not occupied?
> I did by check /proc/self/maps.
>
>> I think the risk here is that the dynamic linker loaded some shared
>> library in that VMA, and forcing MAP_FIXED is not a safe solution.
>> What I have observed is that Linux will return a different VMA than the
>> one hinted when there is already a mapping in the requested/hinted VMA.
> IMO, that's not the target of this RFC. The target is to solve the situation (in current primary/secondary model) that kernel will not use the addr even there's no VMA on that addr. This is my understanding, Stephen, please correct me if I'm wrong.

The point I was trying to make is, that you do not know if there is a 
mapping or not in that address, and by using MAP_FIXED it will unmap 
whatever was in there before.

So unless you parse /proc/self/maps and check that the VMA range is not 
being used, forcing MAP_FIXED is not safe.

>> I reckon this is a similar issue as we have with the multi-process model
>> when we do not get the VMA requested for the huge-pages.
>> AFAIK we do not have a robust solution for this issue other than restart
>> the program and hope the dynamic linker does not map anything in the VMA
>> ranges that we need to map from the primary. This is also assuming that
>> the application does not allocate memory and maps things before calling
>> eal_init as it could potentially use VMA ranges that we need in the
>> secondary process.
> This is another problem.

It is the same problem, VMA ranges that we need to map being already used.

Thanks,
Sergio

>> The proposal for new secondary process model would solve these issues:
>> http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/dev/2017-May/066147.html
> And yes, this might happen to solve the targeted issue in this RFC. But before the new model is out, this patch seems a workable way for the original issue.
>
> Thanks,
> Jianfeng
>
>> Thanks,
>> Sergio

Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] pci: force address of mappings in secondary process

[Tan, Jianfeng]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gonzalez Monroy, Sergio
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 3:32 PM
> To: Tan, Jianfeng; Stephen Hemminger; dev@dpdk.org
> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] pci: force address of mappings in secondary
> process
> 
> On 12/07/2017 03:45, Tan, Jianfeng wrote:
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Gonzalez Monroy, Sergio
> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 7:36 PM
> >> To: Tan, Jianfeng; Stephen Hemminger; dev@dpdk.org
> >> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] pci: force address of mappings in secondary
> >> process
> >>
> >> On 11/07/2017 02:56, Tan, Jianfeng wrote:
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: dev [mailto:dev-bounces@dpdk.org] On Behalf Of Stephen
> >>>> Hemminger
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 9:13 AM
> >>>> To: dev@dpdk.org
> >>>> Cc: Stephen Hemminger
> >>>> Subject: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] pci: force address of mappings in secondary
> >>>> process
> >>>>
> >>>> The PCI memory resources in the secondary process should be in
> >>>> the exact same location as the primary process. Otherwise
> >>>> there is a risk of a stray pointer.
> >>>>
> >>>> Not sure if this is right, but it looks like a potential
> >>>> problem.
> >>>>
> >>>> ---
> >>>>    lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c | 2 +-
> >>>>    1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >>>>
> >>>> diff --git a/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
> >>>> b/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
> >>>> index 367a6816dcb8..2156b1a436c4 100644
> >>>> --- a/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
> >>>> +++ b/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
> >>>> @@ -77,7 +77,7 @@ pci_uio_map_secondary(struct rte_pci_device
> *dev)
> >>>>
> >>>>    			void *mapaddr = pci_map_resource(uio_res-
> >>>>> maps[i].addr,
> >>>>    					fd, (off_t)uio_res->maps[i].offset,
> >>>> -					(size_t)uio_res->maps[i].size, 0);
> >>>> +					(size_t)uio_res->maps[i].size,
> >>>> MAP_FIXED);
> >>>>    			/* fd is not needed in slave process, close it */
> >>>>    			close(fd);
> >>>>    			if (mapaddr != uio_res->maps[i].addr) {
> >>>> --
> >>>> 2.11.0
> >>> +1 for this RFC. I also once encounter such problem, and I use the same
> >> way to solve it. The addr parameter of mmap() syscall is only a hint instead
> of
> >> a must even the VMA is not occupied yet.
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Jianfeng
> >> How do you know the VMA is not occupied?
> > I did by check /proc/self/maps.
> >
> >> I think the risk here is that the dynamic linker loaded some shared
> >> library in that VMA, and forcing MAP_FIXED is not a safe solution.
> >> What I have observed is that Linux will return a different VMA than the
> >> one hinted when there is already a mapping in the requested/hinted
> VMA.
> > IMO, that's not the target of this RFC. The target is to solve the situation (in
> current primary/secondary model) that kernel will not use the addr even
> there's no VMA on that addr. This is my understanding, Stephen, please
> correct me if I'm wrong.
> 
> The point I was trying to make is, that you do not know if there is a
> mapping or not in that address, and by using MAP_FIXED it will unmap
> whatever was in there before.

Oh, I missed that if there's conflict, the existing VMA will be unmapped. That's a bad effect.

> 
> So unless you parse /proc/self/maps and check that the VMA range is not
> being used, forcing MAP_FIXED is not safe.
> 
> >> I reckon this is a similar issue as we have with the multi-process model
> >> when we do not get the VMA requested for the huge-pages.
> >> AFAIK we do not have a robust solution for this issue other than restart
> >> the program and hope the dynamic linker does not map anything in the
> VMA
> >> ranges that we need to map from the primary. This is also assuming that
> >> the application does not allocate memory and maps things before calling
> >> eal_init as it could potentially use VMA ranges that we need in the
> >> secondary process.
> > This is another problem.
> 
> It is the same problem, VMA ranges that we need to map being already used.

Still two problems from my side:
(1) A VMA already exists on that addr/len range; conflict happens.
(2) Kernel will not allocate the VMA to DPDK even there is no VMA on that ranges; there's no conflict.

Thanks,
Jianfeng

> 
> Thanks,
> Sergio
> 
> >> The proposal for new secondary process model would solve these issues:
> >> http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/dev/2017-May/066147.html
> > And yes, this might happen to solve the targeted issue in this RFC. But
> before the new model is out, this patch seems a workable way for the
> original issue.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jianfeng
> >
> >> Thanks,
> >> Sergio
> 

Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] pci: force address of mappings in secondary process

[Ferruh Yigit]

On 7/12/2017 9:58 AM, jianfeng.tan at intel.com (Tan, Jianfeng) wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gonzalez Monroy, Sergio
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 3:32 PM
>> To: Tan, Jianfeng; Stephen Hemminger; dev at dpdk.org
>> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] pci: force address of mappings in secondary
>> process
>>
>> On 12/07/2017 03:45, Tan, Jianfeng wrote:
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Gonzalez Monroy, Sergio
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 7:36 PM
>>>> To: Tan, Jianfeng; Stephen Hemminger; dev at dpdk.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] pci: force address of mappings in secondary
>>>> process
>>>>
>>>> On 11/07/2017 02:56, Tan, Jianfeng wrote:
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: dev [mailto:dev-bounces at dpdk.org] On Behalf Of Stephen
>>>>>> Hemminger
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 9:13 AM
>>>>>> To: dev at dpdk.org
>>>>>> Cc: Stephen Hemminger
>>>>>> Subject: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] pci: force address of mappings in secondary
>>>>>> process
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The PCI memory resources in the secondary process should be in
>>>>>> the exact same location as the primary process. Otherwise
>>>>>> there is a risk of a stray pointer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not sure if this is right, but it looks like a potential
>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>    lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c | 2 +-
>>>>>>    1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
>>>>>> b/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
>>>>>> index 367a6816dcb8..2156b1a436c4 100644
>>>>>> --- a/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
>>>>>> +++ b/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
>>>>>> @@ -77,7 +77,7 @@ pci_uio_map_secondary(struct rte_pci_device
>> *dev)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    			void *mapaddr = pci_map_resource(uio_res-
>>>>>>> maps[i].addr,
>>>>>>    					fd, (off_t)uio_res->maps[i].offset,
>>>>>> -					(size_t)uio_res->maps[i].size, 0);
>>>>>> +					(size_t)uio_res->maps[i].size,
>>>>>> MAP_FIXED);
>>>>>>    			/* fd is not needed in slave process, close it */
>>>>>>    			close(fd);
>>>>>>    			if (mapaddr != uio_res->maps[i].addr) {
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> 2.11.0
>>>>> +1 for this RFC. I also once encounter such problem, and I use the same
>>>> way to solve it. The addr parameter of mmap() syscall is only a hint instead
>> of
>>>> a must even the VMA is not occupied yet.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Jianfeng
>>>> How do you know the VMA is not occupied?
>>> I did by check /proc/self/maps.
>>>
>>>> I think the risk here is that the dynamic linker loaded some shared
>>>> library in that VMA, and forcing MAP_FIXED is not a safe solution.
>>>> What I have observed is that Linux will return a different VMA than the
>>>> one hinted when there is already a mapping in the requested/hinted
>> VMA.
>>> IMO, that's not the target of this RFC. The target is to solve the situation (in
>> current primary/secondary model) that kernel will not use the addr even
>> there's no VMA on that addr. This is my understanding, Stephen, please
>> correct me if I'm wrong.
>>
>> The point I was trying to make is, that you do not know if there is a
>> mapping or not in that address, and by using MAP_FIXED it will unmap
>> whatever was in there before.
> 
> Oh, I missed that if there's conflict, the existing VMA will be unmapped. That's a bad effect.
> 
>>
>> So unless you parse /proc/self/maps and check that the VMA range is not
>> being used, forcing MAP_FIXED is not safe.
>>
>>>> I reckon this is a similar issue as we have with the multi-process model
>>>> when we do not get the VMA requested for the huge-pages.
>>>> AFAIK we do not have a robust solution for this issue other than restart
>>>> the program and hope the dynamic linker does not map anything in the
>> VMA
>>>> ranges that we need to map from the primary. This is also assuming that
>>>> the application does not allocate memory and maps things before calling
>>>> eal_init as it could potentially use VMA ranges that we need in the
>>>> secondary process.
>>> This is another problem.
>>
>> It is the same problem, VMA ranges that we need to map being already used.
> 
> Still two problems from my side:
> (1) A VMA already exists on that addr/len range; conflict happens.
> (2) Kernel will not allocate the VMA to DPDK even there is no VMA on that ranges; there's no conflict.

Hi Stephen,

Both Sergio & Jianfeng are not active anymore in DPDK, which the discussion
seems was going on with. cc'ed Anatoly.

Is this RFC still valid?
Should we expect an update on it?

Thanks,
ferruh

> 
> Thanks,
> Jianfeng
> 
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sergio
>>
>>>> The proposal for new secondary process model would solve these issues:
>>>> http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/dev/2017-May/066147.html
>>> And yes, this might happen to solve the targeted issue in this RFC. But
>> before the new model is out, this patch seems a workable way for the
>> original issue.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jianfeng
>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Sergio
>>
> 
> 

Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] pci: force address of mappings in secondary process

[Stephen Hemminger]

On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 19:21:03 +0000
Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@intel.com> wrote:

> On 7/12/2017 9:58 AM, jianfeng.tan at intel.com (Tan, Jianfeng) wrote:
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Gonzalez Monroy, Sergio
> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 3:32 PM
> >> To: Tan, Jianfeng; Stephen Hemminger; dev at dpdk.org
> >> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] pci: force address of mappings in secondary
> >> process
> >>
> >> On 12/07/2017 03:45, Tan, Jianfeng wrote:  
> >>>  
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Gonzalez Monroy, Sergio
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 7:36 PM
> >>>> To: Tan, Jianfeng; Stephen Hemminger; dev at dpdk.org
> >>>> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] pci: force address of mappings in secondary
> >>>> process
> >>>>
> >>>> On 11/07/2017 02:56, Tan, Jianfeng wrote:  
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: dev [mailto:dev-bounces at dpdk.org] On Behalf Of Stephen
> >>>>>> Hemminger
> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 9:13 AM
> >>>>>> To: dev at dpdk.org
> >>>>>> Cc: Stephen Hemminger
> >>>>>> Subject: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] pci: force address of mappings in secondary
> >>>>>> process
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The PCI memory resources in the secondary process should be in
> >>>>>> the exact same location as the primary process. Otherwise
> >>>>>> there is a risk of a stray pointer.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Not sure if this is right, but it looks like a potential
> >>>>>> problem.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>    lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c | 2 +-
> >>>>>>    1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> diff --git a/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
> >>>>>> b/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
> >>>>>> index 367a6816dcb8..2156b1a436c4 100644
> >>>>>> --- a/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
> >>>>>> +++ b/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
> >>>>>> @@ -77,7 +77,7 @@ pci_uio_map_secondary(struct rte_pci_device  
> >> *dev)  
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>    			void *mapaddr = pci_map_resource(uio_res-  
> >>>>>>> maps[i].addr,  
> >>>>>>    					fd, (off_t)uio_res->maps[i].offset,
> >>>>>> -					(size_t)uio_res->maps[i].size, 0);
> >>>>>> +					(size_t)uio_res->maps[i].size,
> >>>>>> MAP_FIXED);
> >>>>>>    			/* fd is not needed in slave process, close it */
> >>>>>>    			close(fd);
> >>>>>>    			if (mapaddr != uio_res->maps[i].addr) {
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> 2.11.0  
> >>>>> +1 for this RFC. I also once encounter such problem, and I use the same  
> >>>> way to solve it. The addr parameter of mmap() syscall is only a hint instead  
> >> of  
> >>>> a must even the VMA is not occupied yet.  
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Jianfeng  
> >>>> How do you know the VMA is not occupied?  
> >>> I did by check /proc/self/maps.
> >>>  
> >>>> I think the risk here is that the dynamic linker loaded some shared
> >>>> library in that VMA, and forcing MAP_FIXED is not a safe solution.
> >>>> What I have observed is that Linux will return a different VMA than the
> >>>> one hinted when there is already a mapping in the requested/hinted  
> >> VMA.  
> >>> IMO, that's not the target of this RFC. The target is to solve the situation (in  
> >> current primary/secondary model) that kernel will not use the addr even
> >> there's no VMA on that addr. This is my understanding, Stephen, please
> >> correct me if I'm wrong.
> >>
> >> The point I was trying to make is, that you do not know if there is a
> >> mapping or not in that address, and by using MAP_FIXED it will unmap
> >> whatever was in there before.  
> > 
> > Oh, I missed that if there's conflict, the existing VMA will be unmapped. That's a bad effect.
> >   
> >>
> >> So unless you parse /proc/self/maps and check that the VMA range is not
> >> being used, forcing MAP_FIXED is not safe.
> >>  
> >>>> I reckon this is a similar issue as we have with the multi-process model
> >>>> when we do not get the VMA requested for the huge-pages.
> >>>> AFAIK we do not have a robust solution for this issue other than restart
> >>>> the program and hope the dynamic linker does not map anything in the  
> >> VMA  
> >>>> ranges that we need to map from the primary. This is also assuming that
> >>>> the application does not allocate memory and maps things before calling
> >>>> eal_init as it could potentially use VMA ranges that we need in the
> >>>> secondary process.  
> >>> This is another problem.  
> >>
> >> It is the same problem, VMA ranges that we need to map being already used.  
> > 
> > Still two problems from my side:
> > (1) A VMA already exists on that addr/len range; conflict happens.
> > (2) Kernel will not allocate the VMA to DPDK even there is no VMA on that ranges; there's no conflict.  
> 
> Hi Stephen,
> 
> Both Sergio & Jianfeng are not active anymore in DPDK, which the discussion
> seems was going on with. cc'ed Anatoly.
> 
> Is this RFC still valid?
> Should we expect an update on it?
> 
> Thanks,
> ferruh
> 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Jianfeng
> >   
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Sergio
> >>  
> >>>> The proposal for new secondary process model would solve these issues:
> >>>> http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/dev/2017-May/066147.html  
> >>> And yes, this might happen to solve the targeted issue in this RFC. But  
> >> before the new model is out, this patch seems a workable way for the
> >> original issue.  
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Jianfeng
> >>>  
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Sergio  
> >>  
> > 
> >   
> 

MAP_FIXED is the wrong solution. If the secondary passes the address
it wants, and gets something else that means that is overlapping.
The current code returns an error which is the best response.

Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] pci: force address of mappings in secondary process

[Burakov, Anatoly]

On 23-Jan-19 8:37 PM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 19:21:03 +0000
> Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@intel.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 7/12/2017 9:58 AM, jianfeng.tan at intel.com (Tan, Jianfeng) wrote:
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Gonzalez Monroy, Sergio
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 3:32 PM
>>>> To: Tan, Jianfeng; Stephen Hemminger; dev at dpdk.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] pci: force address of mappings in secondary
>>>> process
>>>>
>>>> On 12/07/2017 03:45, Tan, Jianfeng wrote:
>>>>>   
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Gonzalez Monroy, Sergio
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 7:36 PM
>>>>>> To: Tan, Jianfeng; Stephen Hemminger; dev at dpdk.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] pci: force address of mappings in secondary
>>>>>> process
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/07/2017 02:56, Tan, Jianfeng wrote:
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: dev [mailto:dev-bounces at dpdk.org] On Behalf Of Stephen
>>>>>>>> Hemminger
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 9:13 AM
>>>>>>>> To: dev at dpdk.org
>>>>>>>> Cc: Stephen Hemminger
>>>>>>>> Subject: [dpdk-dev] [RFC] pci: force address of mappings in secondary
>>>>>>>> process
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The PCI memory resources in the secondary process should be in
>>>>>>>> the exact same location as the primary process. Otherwise
>>>>>>>> there is a risk of a stray pointer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not sure if this is right, but it looks like a potential
>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>     lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c | 2 +-
>>>>>>>>     1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> diff --git a/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
>>>>>>>> b/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
>>>>>>>> index 367a6816dcb8..2156b1a436c4 100644
>>>>>>>> --- a/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
>>>>>>>> +++ b/lib/librte_eal/common/eal_common_pci_uio.c
>>>>>>>> @@ -77,7 +77,7 @@ pci_uio_map_secondary(struct rte_pci_device
>>>> *dev)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     			void *mapaddr = pci_map_resource(uio_res-
>>>>>>>>> maps[i].addr,
>>>>>>>>     					fd, (off_t)uio_res->maps[i].offset,
>>>>>>>> -					(size_t)uio_res->maps[i].size, 0);
>>>>>>>> +					(size_t)uio_res->maps[i].size,
>>>>>>>> MAP_FIXED);
>>>>>>>>     			/* fd is not needed in slave process, close it */
>>>>>>>>     			close(fd);
>>>>>>>>     			if (mapaddr != uio_res->maps[i].addr) {
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> 2.11.0
>>>>>>> +1 for this RFC. I also once encounter such problem, and I use the same
>>>>>> way to solve it. The addr parameter of mmap() syscall is only a hint instead
>>>> of
>>>>>> a must even the VMA is not occupied yet.
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Jianfeng
>>>>>> How do you know the VMA is not occupied?
>>>>> I did by check /proc/self/maps.
>>>>>   
>>>>>> I think the risk here is that the dynamic linker loaded some shared
>>>>>> library in that VMA, and forcing MAP_FIXED is not a safe solution.
>>>>>> What I have observed is that Linux will return a different VMA than the
>>>>>> one hinted when there is already a mapping in the requested/hinted
>>>> VMA.
>>>>> IMO, that's not the target of this RFC. The target is to solve the situation (in
>>>> current primary/secondary model) that kernel will not use the addr even
>>>> there's no VMA on that addr. This is my understanding, Stephen, please
>>>> correct me if I'm wrong.
>>>>
>>>> The point I was trying to make is, that you do not know if there is a
>>>> mapping or not in that address, and by using MAP_FIXED it will unmap
>>>> whatever was in there before.
>>>
>>> Oh, I missed that if there's conflict, the existing VMA will be unmapped. That's a bad effect.
>>>    
>>>>
>>>> So unless you parse /proc/self/maps and check that the VMA range is not
>>>> being used, forcing MAP_FIXED is not safe.
>>>>   
>>>>>> I reckon this is a similar issue as we have with the multi-process model
>>>>>> when we do not get the VMA requested for the huge-pages.
>>>>>> AFAIK we do not have a robust solution for this issue other than restart
>>>>>> the program and hope the dynamic linker does not map anything in the
>>>> VMA
>>>>>> ranges that we need to map from the primary. This is also assuming that
>>>>>> the application does not allocate memory and maps things before calling
>>>>>> eal_init as it could potentially use VMA ranges that we need in the
>>>>>> secondary process.
>>>>> This is another problem.
>>>>
>>>> It is the same problem, VMA ranges that we need to map being already used.
>>>
>>> Still two problems from my side:
>>> (1) A VMA already exists on that addr/len range; conflict happens.
>>> (2) Kernel will not allocate the VMA to DPDK even there is no VMA on that ranges; there's no conflict.
>>
>> Hi Stephen,
>>
>> Both Sergio & Jianfeng are not active anymore in DPDK, which the discussion
>> seems was going on with. cc'ed Anatoly.
>>
>> Is this RFC still valid?
>> Should we expect an update on it?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> ferruh
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jianfeng
>>>    
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Sergio
>>>>   
>>>>>> The proposal for new secondary process model would solve these issues:
>>>>>> http://dpdk.org/ml/archives/dev/2017-May/066147.html
>>>>> And yes, this might happen to solve the targeted issue in this RFC. But
>>>> before the new model is out, this patch seems a workable way for the
>>>> original issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Jianfeng
>>>>>   
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Sergio
>>>>   
>>>
>>>    
>>
> 
> MAP_FIXED is the wrong solution. If the secondary passes the address
> it wants, and gets something else that means that is overlapping.
> The current code returns an error which is the best response.
> 

...which is why this: 
http://patches.dpdk.org/bundle/aburakov/reliable_device_map/

is a better approach :)

-- 
Thanks,
Anatoly