From: "Wiles, Keith" <keith.wiles@intel.com>
To: "Richardson, Bruce" <bruce.richardson@intel.com>
Cc: David Marchand <david.marchand@redhat.com>,
Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>, dpdk-dev <dev@dpdk.org>,
"Lu, Wenzhuo" <wenzhuo.lu@intel.com>,
"Wu, Jingjing" <jingjing.wu@intel.com>,
"Iremonger, Bernard" <bernard.iremonger@intel.com>,
Maxime Coquelin <mcoqueli@redhat.com>,
"Yigit, Ferruh" <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>,
"Andrew Rybchenko" <arybchenko@solarflare.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/5] app/testpmd: add missing transmit errors stats
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 14:13:53 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4298C471-6BC5-413C-9F5A-7537828A498B@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190215140526.GB790616@bricha3-MOBL.ger.corp.intel.com>
> On Feb 15, 2019, at 8:05 AM, Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 10:33:47AM +0100, David Marchand wrote:
>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 9:58 AM Thomas Monjalon
>> <[1]thomas@monjalon.net> wrote:
>>
>> 14/02/2019 19:51, David Marchand:
>>> What is the purpose of oerrors ?
>>>
>>> Since the drivers (via rte_eth_tx_burst return value) report the
>> numbers of
>>> packets successfully transmitted, the application can try to
>> retransmit the
>>> packets that did not make it and counts this.
>>> If the driver counts such "missed" packets, then it does the job
>> the
>>> application will do anyway (wasting some cycles).
>>> But what is more a problem is that the application does not know
>> if the
>>> packets in oerrors are its own retries or problems that the driver
>> can not
>>> detect (hw problems) but the hw can.
>>>
>>> So the best option is that oerrors does not report the packets the
>> driver
>>> refuses (and I can see some drivers that do not comply to this)
>> but only
>>> "external" errors from the driver pov.
>> I can see the benefit of having driver errors in the stats,
>> so it is generically stored for later analysis or print.
>> It could be managed at ethdev level instead of the application
>> doing the computation.
>> What about splitting the Tx errors in 2 fields? oerrors / ofull ?
>> Who said it's awful? sorry Bruce for anticipating ;)
>>
>> Summary, correct me if we are not aligned :-)
>> - ofull (maybe ofifoerrors?) is actually a count of SW failed transmits
>> - it would be handled in rte_eth_tx_burst() itself in a generic way
>> - the drivers do not need to track such SW failed transmits
>> - oerrors only counts packets HW failed transmits, dropped out of the
>> driver tx_pkt_burst() knowledge
>> - the application does not have to track SW failed transmits since the
>> stats is in ethdev
>> It sounds good to me, this means an ethdev abi breakage.
>
> Hang on, why do we need ethdev to track this at all, given that it's
> trivial for apps to track this themselves. Would we not be better just to
> add this tracking into testpmd and leave ethdev and drivers alone? Perhaps
> I'm missing something?
Adding the counters to ethdev stats is a good idea to me, the number of tx full failures is a great counter as it can tell you a lot about performance of the application. if the ofull counter is high then we have a lot of re-xmit attempts which can point to the problem quicker IMO. Adding it to the PMDs is the right place for this type of information as it is a very common needed counter.
>
Regards,
Keith
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-02-15 14:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-02-14 15:42 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/5] display testpmd forwarding engine stats on the fly David Marchand
2019-02-14 15:42 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/5] app/testpmd: remove unused fwd_ctx field David Marchand
2019-02-18 19:55 ` Rami Rosen
2019-02-14 15:42 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/5] app/testpmd: add missing newline when showing statistics David Marchand
2019-02-19 5:48 ` Rami Rosen
2019-02-14 15:42 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/5] app/testpmd: add missing transmit errors stats David Marchand
2019-02-14 16:30 ` Bruce Richardson
2019-02-14 17:39 ` David Marchand
2019-02-14 18:51 ` David Marchand
2019-02-15 8:57 ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-02-15 9:33 ` David Marchand
2019-02-15 14:05 ` Bruce Richardson
2019-02-15 14:13 ` Wiles, Keith [this message]
2019-02-15 15:04 ` David Marchand
2019-02-15 16:19 ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-02-15 17:32 ` David Marchand
2019-02-15 18:15 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-02-15 18:31 ` David Marchand
2019-02-15 18:42 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-02-15 19:38 ` Thomas Monjalon
2019-02-16 0:37 ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-02-16 13:23 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-02-16 12:50 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-02-20 8:33 ` David Marchand
2019-02-24 11:55 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2019-02-14 15:42 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/5] app/testpmd: remove useless casts on statistics David Marchand
2019-02-14 15:42 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 5/5] app/testpmd: display/clear forwarding stats on demand David Marchand
2019-03-11 15:35 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/4] display testpmd forwarding engine stats on the fly David Marchand
2019-03-11 15:35 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/4] app/testpmd: remove unused fwd_ctx field David Marchand
2019-03-19 18:29 ` [dpdk-dev] [dpdk-stable] " Ferruh Yigit
2019-03-19 18:29 ` Ferruh Yigit
2019-03-11 15:35 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/4] app/testpmd: add missing newline when showing statistics David Marchand
2019-03-11 15:53 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-03-11 15:35 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/4] app/testpmd: remove useless casts on statistics David Marchand
2019-03-11 15:57 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-03-11 16:03 ` David Marchand
2019-03-11 15:35 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 4/4] app/testpmd: display/clear forwarding stats on demand David Marchand
2019-03-20 10:02 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/4] display testpmd forwarding engine stats on the fly David Marchand
2019-03-20 10:02 ` David Marchand
2019-03-20 10:02 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/4] app/testpmd: add missing newline when showing statistics David Marchand
2019-03-20 10:02 ` David Marchand
2019-03-20 13:49 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-03-20 13:49 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-03-20 10:02 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/4] app/testpmd: extend fwd statistics to 64bits David Marchand
2019-03-20 10:02 ` David Marchand
2019-03-20 13:55 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-03-20 13:55 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-03-20 10:02 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/4] app/testpmd: remove useless casts on statistics David Marchand
2019-03-20 10:02 ` David Marchand
2019-03-20 13:58 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-03-20 13:58 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-03-20 10:02 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 4/4] app/testpmd: display/clear forwarding stats on demand David Marchand
2019-03-20 10:02 ` David Marchand
2019-03-20 12:25 ` Ferruh Yigit
2019-03-20 12:25 ` Ferruh Yigit
2019-03-20 12:44 ` David Marchand
2019-03-20 12:44 ` David Marchand
2019-03-20 13:29 ` Ferruh Yigit
2019-03-20 13:29 ` Ferruh Yigit
2019-03-21 18:50 ` Ferruh Yigit
2019-03-21 18:50 ` Ferruh Yigit
2019-03-21 20:34 ` David Marchand
2019-03-21 20:34 ` David Marchand
2019-03-22 13:37 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/4] display testpmd forwarding engine stats on the fly David Marchand
2019-03-22 13:37 ` David Marchand
2019-03-22 13:37 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/4] app/testpmd: add missing newline when showing statistics David Marchand
2019-03-22 13:37 ` David Marchand
2019-03-22 17:03 ` Maxime Coquelin
2019-03-22 17:03 ` Maxime Coquelin
2019-03-22 17:17 ` Maxime Coquelin
2019-03-22 17:17 ` Maxime Coquelin
2019-03-22 17:23 ` David Marchand
2019-03-22 17:23 ` David Marchand
2019-03-22 17:31 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-03-22 17:31 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-03-22 17:35 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-03-22 17:35 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-03-22 17:43 ` David Marchand
2019-03-22 17:43 ` David Marchand
2019-03-23 19:12 ` David Marchand
2019-03-23 19:12 ` David Marchand
2019-03-25 6:34 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-03-25 6:34 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-03-22 13:37 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/4] app/testpmd: extend fwd statistics to 64bits David Marchand
2019-03-22 13:37 ` David Marchand
2019-03-22 17:06 ` Maxime Coquelin
2019-03-22 17:06 ` Maxime Coquelin
2019-03-22 13:37 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/4] app/testpmd: remove useless casts on statistics David Marchand
2019-03-22 13:37 ` David Marchand
2019-03-22 17:11 ` Maxime Coquelin
2019-03-22 17:11 ` Maxime Coquelin
2019-03-22 13:37 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 4/4] app/testpmd: display/clear forwarding stats on demand David Marchand
2019-03-22 13:37 ` David Marchand
2019-03-22 17:22 ` Maxime Coquelin
2019-03-22 17:22 ` Maxime Coquelin
2019-03-25 8:51 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/4] display testpmd forwarding engine stats on the fly David Marchand
2019-03-25 8:51 ` David Marchand
2019-03-25 8:51 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/4] app/testpmd: add missing newline when showing statistics David Marchand
2019-03-25 8:51 ` David Marchand
2019-03-25 8:55 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-03-25 8:55 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2019-03-25 8:51 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/4] app/testpmd: extend fwd statistics to 64bits David Marchand
2019-03-25 8:51 ` David Marchand
2019-03-25 8:51 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/4] app/testpmd: remove useless casts on statistics David Marchand
2019-03-25 8:51 ` David Marchand
2019-03-25 8:51 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 4/4] app/testpmd: display/clear forwarding stats on demand David Marchand
2019-03-25 8:51 ` David Marchand
2019-03-25 14:05 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/4] display testpmd forwarding engine stats on the fly Ferruh Yigit
2019-03-25 14:05 ` Ferruh Yigit
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