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From: Vlad Zolotarov <vladz@cloudius-systems.com>
To: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 5/5] ixgbe: Add LRO support
Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2015 11:36:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54F82390.9090500@cloudius-systems.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150304105424.3a789782@urahara>



On 03/04/15 20:54, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Mar 2015 09:57:24 +0200
> Vlad Zolotarov <vladz@cloudius-systems.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 03/04/15 02:33, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
>>> On Tue,  3 Mar 2015 21:48:43 +0200
>>> Vlad Zolotarov <vladz@cloudius-systems.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +	next_desc:
>>>> +		/*
>>>> +		 * The code in this whole file uses the volatile pointer to
>>>> +		 * ensure the read ordering of the status and the rest of the
>>>> +		 * descriptor fields (on the compiler level only!!!). This is so
>>>> +		 * UGLY - why not to just use the compiler barrier instead? DPDK
>>>> +		 * even has the rte_compiler_barrier() for that.
>>>> +		 *
>>>> +		 * But most importantly this is just wrong because this doesn't
>>>> +		 * ensure memory ordering in a general case at all. For
>>>> +		 * instance, DPDK is supposed to work on Power CPUs where
>>>> +		 * compiler barrier may just not be enough!
>>>> +		 *
>>>> +		 * I tried to write only this function properly to have a
>>>> +		 * starting point (as a part of an LRO/RSC series) but the
>>>> +		 * compiler cursed at me when I tried to cast away the
>>>> +		 * "volatile" from rx_ring (yes, it's volatile too!!!). So, I'm
>>>> +		 * keeping it the way it is for now.
>>>> +		 *
>>>> +		 * The code in this file is broken in so many other places and
>>>> +		 * will just not work on a big endian CPU anyway therefore the
>>>> +		 * lines below will have to be revisited together with the rest
>>>> +		 * of the ixgbe PMD.
>>>> +		 *
>>>> +		 * TODO:
>>>> +		 *    - Get rid of "volatile" crap and let the compiler do its
>>>> +		 *      job.
>>>> +		 *    - Use the proper memory barrier (rte_rmb()) to ensure the
>>>> +		 *      memory ordering below.
>>> This comment screams "this is broken".
>>> Why not get proper architecture independent barriers in DPDK first.
>> This series is orthogonal to the issue above. I just couldn't stand to
>> mention this ugliness when I noticed it on the way.
>> Note that although this is obviously not the right way to write this
>> kind of code it is still not a bug and most likely the performance
>> implications are minimal here.
>> The only overhead is that there may be read "too much" data from the
>> descriptor that we may not actually need. The descriptor is 16 bytes so
>> this doesn't seem to be a critical issue.
>>
>> So, fixing the above issue may wait, especially since the same s..t may
>> be found in other Intel PMDs (see i40e for example). Fixing this issue
>> should be a matter of a massive cleanup series that cover all the
>> relevant PMDs. Of course we may start with ixgbe but even in this single
>> PMD there are at least 3 non-LRO related functions that have to be
>> fixed, so IMHO even fixing ONLY ixgbe should be a matter of a separate
>> series.
> In userspace-rcu and kernel there is a simple macro that would make this
> kind of code more sane.
>
> What about adding:
>
> #define rte_access_once(x)  (*(volatile typeof(x) *)&(x))
>
> Then doing
>              rxdp = rte_access_once(rx_ring + idx);

This workaround doesn't address the described above issue - it just 
hides it inside a macro, which is even uglier.
The main reason I haven't fixed this issue in (at least) a function I've 
added is that the hw->rx_ring (HW ring) is defined as volatile and this 
fact is used all over the file in different places and all such places 
have to be fixed if I drop the "volatile" qualifier which should be the 
first thing to do.

>
>
>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-05  9:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-03 19:48 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 0/5]: Add LRO support to ixgbe PMD Vlad Zolotarov
2015-03-03 19:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 1/5] ixgbe: Cleanups Vlad Zolotarov
2015-03-03 19:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 2/5] ixgbe: Bug fix: Properly configure Rx CRC stripping for x540 devices Vlad Zolotarov
2015-03-03 19:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 3/5] ixgbe: Code refactoring Vlad Zolotarov
2015-03-03 19:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 4/5] common_linuxapp: Added CONFIG_RTE_ETHDEV_LRO_SUPPORT option Vlad Zolotarov
2015-03-03 19:48 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v1 5/5] ixgbe: Add LRO support Vlad Zolotarov
2015-03-04  0:33   ` Stephen Hemminger
2015-03-04  7:24     ` Vlad Zolotarov
2015-03-04  0:33   ` Stephen Hemminger
2015-03-04  7:57     ` Vlad Zolotarov
2015-03-04 18:54       ` Stephen Hemminger
2015-03-05  9:36         ` Vlad Zolotarov [this message]
2015-03-04  8:05     ` Avi Kivity
2015-03-04  0:34   ` Stephen Hemminger
2015-03-04  7:57     ` Vlad Zolotarov
2015-03-04  0:36   ` Stephen Hemminger
2015-03-04  7:59     ` Vlad Zolotarov
2015-03-04 18:51       ` Stephen Hemminger

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