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From: Vlad Zolotarov <vladz@cloudius-systems.com>
To: "Zhang, Helin" <helin.zhang@intel.com>,
	"Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] i40e xmit path HW limitation
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 19:44:24 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55BA5468.80109@cloudius-systems.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F35DEAC7BCE34641BA9FAC6BCA4A12E70A8B7B16@SHSMSX104.ccr.corp.intel.com>



On 07/30/15 19:10, Zhang, Helin wrote:
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vlad Zolotarov [mailto:vladz@cloudius-systems.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 7:58 AM
>> To: dev@dpdk.org; Ananyev, Konstantin; Zhang, Helin
>> Subject: RFC: i40e xmit path HW limitation
>>
>> Hi, Konstantin, Helin,
>> there is a documented limitation of xl710 controllers (i40e driver) which is not
>> handled in any way by a DPDK driver.
>>   From the datasheet chapter 8.4.1:
>>
>> "• A single transmit packet may span up to 8 buffers (up to 8 data descriptors per
>> packet including both the header and payload buffers).
>> • The total number of data descriptors for the whole TSO (explained later on in
>> this chapter) is unlimited as long as each segment within the TSO obeys the
>> previous rule (up to 8 data descriptors per segment for both the TSO header and
>> the segment payload buffers)."
> Yes, I remember the RX side just supports 5 segments per packet receiving.
> But what's the possible issue you thought about?
Note that it's a Tx size we are talking about.

See 30520831f058cd9d75c0f6b360bc5c5ae49b5f27 commit in linux net-next repo.
If such a cluster arrives and you post it on the HW ring - HW will shut 
this HW ring down permanently. The application will see that it's ring 
is stuck.

>
>> This means that, for instance, long cluster with small fragments has to be
>> linearized before it may be placed on the HW ring.
> What type of size of the small fragments? Basically 2KB is the default size of mbuf of most
> example applications. 2KB x 8 is bigger than 1.5KB. So it is enough for the maximum
> packet size we supported.
> If 1KB mbuf is used, don't expect it can transmit more than 8KB size of packet.

I kinda lost u here. Again, we talk about the Tx side here and buffers 
are not obligatory completely filled. Namely there may be a cluster with 
15 fragments 100 bytes each.

>
>> In more standard environments like Linux or FreeBSD drivers the solution is
>> straight forward - call skb_linearize()/m_collapse() corresponding.
>> In the non-conformist environment like DPDK life is not that easy - there is no
>> easy way to collapse the cluster into a linear buffer from inside the device driver
>> since device driver doesn't allocate memory in a fast path and utilizes the user
>> allocated pools only.
>> Here are two proposals for a solution:
>>
>>   1. We may provide a callback that would return a user TRUE if a give
>>      cluster has to be linearized and it should always be called before
>>      rte_eth_tx_burst(). Alternatively it may be called from inside the
>>      rte_eth_tx_burst() and rte_eth_tx_burst() is changed to return some
>>      error code for a case when one of the clusters it's given has to be
>>      linearized.
>>   2. Another option is to allocate a mempool in the driver with the
>>      elements consuming a single page each (standard 2KB buffers would
>>      do). Number of elements in the pool should be as Tx ring length
>>      multiplied by "64KB/(linear data length of the buffer in the pool
>>      above)". Here I use 64KB as a maximum packet length and not taking
>>      into an account esoteric things like "Giant" TSO mentioned in the
>>      spec above. Then we may actually go and linearize the cluster if
>>      needed on top of the buffers from the pool above, post the buffer
>>      from the mempool above on the HW ring, link the original cluster to
>>      that new cluster (using the private data) and release it when the
>>      send is done.
>>
>>
>> The first is a change in the API and would require from the application some
>> additional handling (linearization). The second would require some additional
>> memory but would keep all dirty details inside the driver and would leave the
>> rest of the code intact.
>>
>> Pls., comment.
>>
>> thanks,
>> vlad
>>

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-30 16:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-30 14:57 [dpdk-dev] RFC: " Vlad Zolotarov
2015-07-30 16:10 ` [dpdk-dev] " Zhang, Helin
2015-07-30 16:44   ` Vlad Zolotarov [this message]
2015-07-30 17:33     ` Zhang, Helin
2015-07-30 17:56       ` Vlad Zolotarov
2015-07-30 19:00         ` Zhang, Helin
2015-07-30 19:25           ` Vladislav Zolotarov
2015-07-30 16:17 ` [dpdk-dev] RFC: " Stephen Hemminger
2015-07-30 16:20   ` Avi Kivity
2015-07-30 16:50     ` Vlad Zolotarov
2015-07-30 17:01       ` Stephen Hemminger
2015-07-30 17:14         ` Vlad Zolotarov
2015-07-30 17:22         ` Avi Kivity

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