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From: Panu Matilainen <pmatilai@redhat.com>
To: Olivier MATZ <olivier.matz@6wind.com>,
	Mario Carrillo <mario.alfredo.c.arevalo@intel.com>,
	dev@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/7] Add hierarchical support to make install
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 13:36:33 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56012F31.1080800@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56012A12.5030909@redhat.com>

On 09/22/2015 01:14 PM, Panu Matilainen wrote:
> On 09/22/2015 12:00 PM, Olivier MATZ wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 09/22/2015 10:34 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote:
>>> On 09/22/2015 11:00 AM, Olivier MATZ wrote:
>>>> Actually, the current "install" directive means: install all stuff
>>>> required to build a project for the specified targets (example:
>>>> x86_64-native-linuxapp-gcc).
>>>>
>>>> If we just do "make install T=${target}", the target is installed
>>>> into the current SDK source. Adding DESTDIR will install the binary
>>>> DPDK in a new directory. Example:
>>>>
>>>>    make -j32 T="*-native-linuxapp-gcc" DESTDIR=/tmp/binary-dpdk install
>>>>
>>>> In both cases, the result can be used to build an application (like
>>>> the one found in examples) using the the DPDK framework. So, the
>>>> current
>>>> "install" directive should be understood as "install binary sdk".
>>>
>>> I know. What it now does is the very problem being addressed :)
>>>
>>> The current behavior is just so alien to the rest of the OSS world it
>>> actually creates an extra barrier of entry to the project. Besides that,
>>> it forces people to manually do the cp/mv dance instead - witness
>>> %install in pkg/dpdk.spec. It also unnecessarily rebuilds stuff when it
>>> should be just copying.
>>
>> I agree, I was just trying to summarize what the "install" does
>> right now, I don't say it's the proper behavior.
>
> Oh, ok.
>
>>>>   From what I understand, what Mario wants to add is a "install runtime
>>>> libraries" directive.
>>>
>>> Its not limited to runtime libraries, it installs headers and such too.
>>> The point, AFAICS, is have "make install" do what people actually expect
>>> it to do - a system-wide installation. Principle of least surprise
>>> and all.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I agree that using H=1 is maybe not the clearest solution. What about
>>>> renaming the "install" directive to:
>>>>     - install-sdk
>>>>     - install-runtime
>>>>
>>>> It would help to keep the current behavior of "install" for some time,
>>>> marking it as deprecated.
>>>
>>> Nothing wrong with having separate targets for installing runtime- and
>>> sdk-specific bits, but thats not the point here.
>>
>> Hmm I think it is.
>
> "make install" usually installs everything, including headers,
> documentation etc on top of binaries and libraries.  Thats more or less
> what the patches here do. For packaging purposes they're usually split
> up to different sub-packages and in the make-system there usually are
> separate targets for the individual elements like install-doc.
>
> The notion of SDK in DPDK is something entirely different from how the
> average OSS project is used in development of other software. Some
> projects like pktgen-dpdk rely on the SDK structure, mk snippets and
> scripts and all, others like openvswitch try to deal with it more like
> it was any old OSS citizen.

...so...

Talking about "runtime" misses the point, it'd be more like:
- install-sdk (for current dpdk specific sdk hierarchy)
- install-fhs (for filesystem hierarchy standard)

Getting the latter implemented would be the first step (which is what 
these patches are about, even if the details differ). Changing default 
behavior is a kind of different question (that I dragged into the 
picture, sorry for mixing it up).

  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-22 10:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 150+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-18 20:33 Mario Carrillo
2015-09-18 20:33 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/7] mk: Add hierarchy-file support Mario Carrillo
2015-09-18 20:33 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/7] mk: Add hierarchy-file support (sbin) Mario Carrillo
2015-09-18 20:33 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/7] mk: Add hierarchy-file support (doc) Mario Carrillo
2015-09-18 20:33 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/7] mk: Add hierarchy-file support (app) Mario Carrillo
2015-09-18 20:33 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 5/7] mk: Add hierarchy-file support (include) Mario Carrillo
2015-09-22  8:03   ` Panu Matilainen
2015-09-18 20:33 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 6/7] mk: Add hierarchy-file support (lib) Mario Carrillo
2015-09-22  7:46   ` Panu Matilainen
2015-09-18 20:33 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 7/7] mk: Add hierarchy-file support (linux mod) Mario Carrillo
2015-09-22  6:56   ` Panu Matilainen
2015-11-27 15:40     ` Thomas Monjalon
2015-11-27 16:01       ` Ferruh Yigit
2015-11-27 16:20         ` David Marchand
2015-11-27 16:23           ` Bruce Richardson
2015-11-27 16:48             ` Ferruh Yigit
2015-11-27 21:05         ` Arevalo, Mario Alfredo C
2015-09-22  6:29 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/7] Add hierarchical support to make install Panu Matilainen
2015-09-22  8:00   ` Olivier MATZ
2015-09-22  8:34     ` Panu Matilainen
2015-09-22  9:00       ` Olivier MATZ
2015-09-22 10:14         ` Panu Matilainen
2015-09-22 10:36           ` Panu Matilainen [this message]
2015-09-22 14:40           ` Olivier MATZ
2015-09-23 14:54             ` Arevalo, Mario Alfredo C
2015-09-22 10:39         ` Neil Horman
2015-09-22  8:16 ` Olivier MATZ
2015-09-29  0:00 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/8] Add instalation rules for dpdk files Mario Carrillo
2015-09-29  0:00   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/8] mk: Add rule for installing headers Mario Carrillo
2015-09-29  8:49     ` Panu Matilainen
2015-09-29  0:00   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/8] mk: Add rule for installing app files Mario Carrillo
2015-09-29  0:00   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/8] mk: Add rule for installing libraries Mario Carrillo
2015-09-29  9:28     ` Panu Matilainen
2015-09-29  0:00   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 4/8] mk: Add rule for installing modules Mario Carrillo
2015-09-29  0:01   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 5/8] mk: Add rule for installing documentation Mario Carrillo
2015-09-29  0:01   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 6/8] mk: Add rule for installing nic bind files Mario Carrillo
2015-09-29  0:01   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 7/8] mk: Add rule for installing sdk files Mario Carrillo
2015-09-29  0:01   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 8/8] mk: Add rule for installing runtime files Mario Carrillo
2015-10-01  0:11 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/8] Add instalation rules for dpdk files Mario Carrillo
2015-10-01  0:11   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/8] mk: Add rule for installing headers Mario Carrillo
2015-10-01  0:11   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/8] mk: Add rule for installing app files Mario Carrillo
2015-10-01  0:11   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/8] mk: Add rule for installing libraries Mario Carrillo
2015-10-01  0:11   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 4/8] mk: Add rule for installing modules Mario Carrillo
2015-10-02 10:38     ` Panu Matilainen
2015-10-02 16:26       ` Arevalo, Mario Alfredo C
2015-10-05  7:13         ` Panu Matilainen
2015-10-01  0:11   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 5/8] mk: Add rule for installing documentation Mario Carrillo
2015-10-01  0:11   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 6/8] mk: Add rule for installing nic bind files Mario Carrillo
2015-10-02 10:49     ` Panu Matilainen
2015-10-02 10:54       ` Richardson, Bruce
2015-10-02 16:27         ` Arevalo, Mario Alfredo C
2015-11-27 15:52         ` Thomas Monjalon
2015-11-27 16:10           ` Bruce Richardson
2015-10-01  0:11   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 7/8] mk: Add rule for installing sdk files Mario Carrillo
2015-10-01  0:11   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 8/8] mk: Add rule for installing runtime files Mario Carrillo
2015-10-02 11:15     ` Panu Matilainen
2015-10-02 11:25       ` Bruce Richardson
2015-10-02 16:29       ` Arevalo, Mario Alfredo C
2015-10-12  9:28       ` Jan Blunck
2015-10-05 20:19 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/7] Add instalation rules for dpdk files Mario Carrillo
2015-10-05 20:20   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/7] mk: Add rule for installing headers Mario Carrillo
2015-10-16 19:29     ` Olivier MATZ
2015-10-19 23:35       ` Arevalo, Mario Alfredo C
2015-10-05 20:20   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/7] mk: Add rule for installing app files Mario Carrillo
2015-10-16 19:30     ` Olivier MATZ
2015-10-05 20:20   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/7] mk: Add rule for installing libraries Mario Carrillo
2015-10-05 20:20   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 4/7] mk: Add rule for installing modules Mario Carrillo
2015-10-05 20:20   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 5/7] mk: Add rule for installing documentation Mario Carrillo
2015-10-16 19:30     ` Olivier MATZ
2015-10-19 23:36       ` Arevalo, Mario Alfredo C
2015-10-05 20:20   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 6/7] mk: Add rule for installing sdk files Mario Carrillo
2015-10-16 19:31     ` Olivier MATZ
2015-10-19 14:00       ` Panu Matilainen
2015-10-05 20:20   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 7/7] mk: Add rule for installing runtime files Mario Carrillo
2015-10-10 17:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/7] Add instalation rules for dpdk files Arevalo, Mario Alfredo C
2015-10-15 12:32     ` Panu Matilainen
2015-10-14 15:58   ` Miguel Bernal Marin
2015-10-16 19:32   ` Olivier MATZ
2015-10-30  1:47 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 00/10] " Mario Carrillo
2015-10-30  1:47   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 01/10] mk: Add rule for installing headers Mario Carrillo
2015-10-30  1:47   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 02/10] mk: Add rule for installing app files Mario Carrillo
2015-10-30  1:47   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 03/10] mk: Add rule for installing libraries Mario Carrillo
2015-10-30  1:47   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 04/10] mk: Add rule for installing modules Mario Carrillo
2015-10-30  1:47   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 05/10] mk: Add rule for installing documentation Mario Carrillo
2015-10-30  1:47   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 06/10] mk: Add rule for installing sdk files Mario Carrillo
2015-10-30  1:47   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 07/10] mk: Add rule for installing runtime files Mario Carrillo
2015-10-30  1:47   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 08/10] mk: Rename install rule as mbuild rule Mario Carrillo
2015-10-30  1:47   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 09/10] mk: Add new install rule Mario Carrillo
2015-10-30  1:47   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 10/10] doc: Add information about new installation rules Mario Carrillo
2015-11-10 17:07 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 00/10] Add installation rules for dpdk files Mario Carrillo
2015-11-10 17:07   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 01/10] mk: Add rule for installing headers Mario Carrillo
2015-11-10 17:07   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 02/10] mk: Add rule for installing app files Mario Carrillo
2015-11-10 17:07   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 03/10] mk: Add rule for installing libraries Mario Carrillo
2015-11-10 17:07   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 04/10] mk: Add rule for installing modules Mario Carrillo
2015-11-10 17:07   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 05/10] mk: Add rule for installing documentation Mario Carrillo
2015-11-10 17:07   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 06/10] mk: Add rule for installing sdk files Mario Carrillo
2015-11-30 16:20     ` Thomas Monjalon
2015-11-30 16:26       ` Arevalo, Mario Alfredo C
2015-11-10 17:07   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 07/10] mk: Add rule for installing runtime files Mario Carrillo
2015-11-10 17:07   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 08/10] mk: Rename install rule as mbuild rule Mario Carrillo
2015-11-10 17:07   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 09/10] mk: Add new install rule Mario Carrillo
2015-11-10 17:07   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 10/10] doc: Add information about new installation rules Mario Carrillo
2015-11-10 17:18   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 00/10] Add installation rules for dpdk files Aaron Conole
2015-11-10 23:25     ` Arevalo, Mario Alfredo C
2015-11-11 10:48       ` Bruce Richardson
2015-11-11 17:43         ` Arevalo, Mario Alfredo C
2015-12-01  0:53 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 00/11] " Mario Carrillo
2015-12-01  0:53   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 01/11] mk: Add rule for installing headers Mario Carrillo
2015-12-01  0:53   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 02/11] mk: Add rule for installing app files Mario Carrillo
2015-12-01  0:53   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 03/11] mk: Add rule for installing libraries Mario Carrillo
2015-12-01  0:53   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 04/11] mk: Add rule for installing modules Mario Carrillo
2015-12-01  0:53   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 05/11] mk: Add rule for installing documentation Mario Carrillo
2015-12-01  0:53   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 06/11] mk: Add rule for installing sdk files Mario Carrillo
2015-12-01  0:53   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 07/11] mk: Add rule for installing runtime files Mario Carrillo
2015-12-01  0:53   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 08/11] app: Change name to test binary Mario Carrillo
2015-12-01  0:53   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 09/11] mk: Rename install rule as mbuild rule Mario Carrillo
2015-12-01  0:53   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 10/11] mk: Add new install rule Mario Carrillo
2015-12-01  0:53   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 11/11] doc: Add information about new installation rules Mario Carrillo
2015-12-01 11:11     ` Mcnamara, John
2015-12-01 12:08     ` Mcnamara, John
2015-12-01 13:36       ` Arevalo, Mario Alfredo C
2015-12-01 19:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 00/11] Add installation rules for dpdk files Thomas Monjalon
2015-12-01 19:36     ` Arevalo, Mario Alfredo C
2015-12-01 19:39 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 " Mario Carrillo
2015-12-01 19:39   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 01/11] mk: Add rule for installing headers Mario Carrillo
2015-12-01 19:39   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 02/11] mk: Add rule for installing app files Mario Carrillo
2015-12-01 19:39   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 03/11] mk: Add rule for installing libraries Mario Carrillo
2015-12-01 19:39   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 04/11] mk: Add rule for installing modules Mario Carrillo
2015-12-01 19:39   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 05/11] mk: Add rule for installing documentation Mario Carrillo
2015-12-01 19:39   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 06/11] mk: Add rule for installing sdk files Mario Carrillo
2015-12-01 19:39   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 07/11] mk: Add rule for installing runtime files Mario Carrillo
2015-12-01 19:39   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 08/11] app: Change name to test binary Mario Carrillo
2015-12-01 19:39   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 09/11] mk: Rename install rule as mbuild rule Mario Carrillo
2015-12-01 19:39   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 10/11] mk: Add new install rule Mario Carrillo
2015-12-01 19:39   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 11/11] doc: Add information about new installation rules Mario Carrillo
2015-12-02  9:33   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 00/11] Add installation rules for dpdk files Panu Matilainen
2015-12-02 23:04     ` Arevalo, Mario Alfredo C
2015-12-03 21:37 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 " Mario Carrillo
2015-12-03 21:37   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 01/11] mk: Add rule for installing headers Mario Carrillo
2015-12-03 21:37   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 02/11] mk: Add rule for installing app files Mario Carrillo
2015-12-03 21:37   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 03/11] mk: Add rule for installing libraries Mario Carrillo
2015-12-03 21:37   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 04/11] mk: Add rule for installing modules Mario Carrillo
2015-12-03 21:37   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 05/11] mk: Add rule for installing documentation Mario Carrillo
2015-12-03 21:37   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 06/11] mk: Add rule for installing sdk files Mario Carrillo
2015-12-03 21:37   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 07/11] mk: Add rule for installing runtime files Mario Carrillo
2015-12-03 21:37   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 08/11] app: Change name to test binary Mario Carrillo
2015-12-03 21:37   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 09/11] mk: Rename install rule as mbuild rule Mario Carrillo
2015-12-03 21:37   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 10/11] mk: Add new install rule Mario Carrillo
2015-12-03 21:37   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 11/11] doc: Add information about new installation rules Mario Carrillo
2015-12-04 15:38   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 00/11] Add installation rules for dpdk files Thomas Monjalon

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