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From: Zoltan Kiss <zoltan.kiss@linaro.org>
To: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	Matthew Hall <mhall@mhcomputing.net>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] Reshuffling of rte_mbuf structure.
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 11:44:22 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56389E16.4010407@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151103102042.GC15320@bricha3-MOBL3>

Also, there could be places in the code where we change a set of 
continuous fields in the mbuf. E.g. ixgbe vector pmd receive function 
takes advantage of 128 bit vector registers and fill out 
rx_descriptor_fields1 with one instruction. But I guess there are other 
places too, and they are really hard to find with code analysis. A 
change in the mbuf structure would probably bring a plethora of nasty 
bugs due to this.

On 03/11/15 10:20, Bruce Richardson wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 02, 2015 at 07:21:17PM -0500, Matthew Hall wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 02, 2015 at 11:51:23PM +0100, Thomas Monjalon wrote:
>>> But it is simpler to say that having an API depending of some options
>>> is a "no-design" which could seriously slow down the DPDK adoption.
>>
>> What about something similar to how Java JNI works? It needed to support
>> multiple Java JRE / JDK brands, implementations etc. Upon initialization, a
>> function pointer array is created, and specific slots are filled with pointers
>> to the real implementation of some native API functions you can call from
>> inside your library to perform operations.
>>
>> In the DPDK case, we need flexible data instead of flexible function
>> implementations.
>>
>> To do this there would be some pointer slots in the mbuf that are are filled
>> with pointers to metadata for required DPDK features. The data could be placed
>> in the following cachelines, using some reserved tailroom between the mbuf
>> control block and the packet data block. Then the prefetch could be set up to
>> prefetch only the used parts of the tailroom at any given point, to prevent
>> unwanted slowdowns.
>>
>> Matthew.
>
> The trouble is that a lot of the metadata comes from the receive descriptor on
> the RX code path, which is extremely sensitive to cache line usage. This is why
> in the 1.8 changes to the mbuf, the data used by the RX code paths were all put
> on the first cacheline.
>
> /Bruce
>

  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-03 11:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-31  4:44 shesha Sreenivasamurthy (shesha)
2015-11-01  4:45 ` Arnon Warshavsky
2015-11-02 16:24   ` Stephen Hemminger
2015-11-02 18:30     ` shesha Sreenivasamurthy (shesha)
2015-11-02 18:35       ` Arnon Warshavsky
2015-11-02 22:19         ` shesha Sreenivasamurthy (shesha)
2015-11-02 22:51           ` Thomas Monjalon
2015-11-03  0:21             ` Matthew Hall
2015-11-03 10:20               ` Bruce Richardson
2015-11-03 11:44                 ` Zoltan Kiss [this message]
2015-11-03 14:33                   ` Matthew Hall
2015-11-04 18:56               ` shesha Sreenivasamurthy (shesha)

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