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From: Tetsuya Mukawa <mukawa@igel.co.jp>
To: "Xie, Huawei" <huawei.xie@intel.com>,
	Yuanhan Liu <yuanhan.liu@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"ann.zhuangyanying@huawei.com" <ann.zhuangyanying@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/3] vhost: Add callback and private data for vhost PMD
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 11:10:00 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56775F78.9040603@igel.co.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C37D651A908B024F974696C65296B57B4C549371@SHSMSX101.ccr.corp.intel.com>

On 2015/12/18 19:03, Xie, Huawei wrote:
> On 12/18/2015 12:15 PM, Yuanhan Liu wrote:
>> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 12:15:42PM +0900, Tetsuya Mukawa wrote:
>>> On 2015/12/17 20:42, Yuanhan Liu wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 06:00:01PM +0900, Tetsuya Mukawa wrote:
>>>>> The vhost PMD will be a wrapper of vhost library, but some of vhost
>>>>> library APIs cannot be mapped to ethdev library APIs.
>>>>> Becasue of this, in some cases, we still need to use vhost library APIs
>>>>> for a port created by the vhost PMD.
>>>>>
>>>>> Currently, when virtio device is created and destroyed, vhost library
>>>>> will call one of callback handlers. The vhost PMD need to use this
>>>>> pair of callback handlers to know which virtio devices are connected
>>>>> actually.
>>>>> Because we can register only one pair of callbacks to vhost library, if
>>>>> the PMD use it, DPDK applications cannot have a way to know the events.
>>>>>
>>>>> This may break legacy DPDK applications that uses vhost library. To prevent
>>>>> it, this patch adds one more pair of callbacks to vhost library especially
>>>>> for the vhost PMD.
>>>>> With the patch, legacy applications can use the vhost PMD even if they need
>>>>> additional specific handling for virtio device creation and destruction.
>>>>>
>>>>> For example, legacy application can call
>>>>> rte_vhost_enable_guest_notification() in callbacks to change setting.
>>>> TBH, I never liked it since the beginning. Introducing two callbacks
>>>> for one event is a bit messy, and therefore error prone.
>>> I agree with you.
>>>
>>>> I have been thinking this occasionally last few weeks, and have came
>>>> up something that we may introduce another layer callback based on
>>>> the vhost pmd itself, by a new API:
>>>>
>>>> 	rte_eth_vhost_register_callback().
>>>>
>>>> And we then call those new callback inside the vhost pmd new_device()
>>>> and vhost pmd destroy_device() implementations.
>>>>
>>>> And we could have same callbacks like vhost have, but I'm thinking
>>>> that new_device() and destroy_device() doesn't sound like a good name
>>>> to a PMD driver. Maybe a name like "link_state_changed" is better?
>>>>
>>>> What do you think of that?
>>> Yes,  "link_state_changed" will be good.
>>>
>>> BTW, I thought it was ok that an DPDK app that used vhost PMD called
>>> vhost library APIs directly.
>>> But probably you may feel strangeness about it. Is this correct?
>> Unluckily, that's true :)
>>
>>> If so, how about implementing legacy status interrupt mechanism to vhost
>>> PMD?
>>> For example, an DPDK app can register callback handler like
>>> "examples/link_status_interrupt".
>>>
>>> Also, if the app doesn't call vhost library APIs directly,
>>> rte_eth_vhost_portid2vdev() will be needless, because the app doesn't
>>> need to handle virtio device structure anymore.
>>>
>>>> On the other hand, I'm still thinking is that really necessary to let
>>>> the application be able to call vhost functions like rte_vhost_enable_guest_notification()
>>>> with the vhost PMD driver?
>>> Basic concept of my patch is that vhost PMD will provides the features
>>> that vhost library provides.
>> I don't think that's necessary. Let's just treat it as a normal pmd
>> driver, having nothing to do with vhost library.
>>
>>> How about removing rte_vhost_enable_guest_notification() from "vhost
>>> library"?
>>> (I also not sure what are use cases)
>>> If we can do this, vhost PMD also doesn't need to take care of it.
>>> Or if rte_vhost_enable_guest_notification() will be removed in the
>>> future, vhost PMD is able to ignore it.
>> You could either call it in vhost-pmd (which you already have done that),
>> or ignore it in vhost-pmd, but dont' remove it from vhost library.
>>
>>> Please let me correct up my thinking about your questions.
>>>  - Change concept of patch not to call vhost library APIs directly.
>>> These should be wrapped by ethdev APIs.
>>>  - Remove rte_eth_vhost_portid2vdev(), because of above concept changing.
>>>  - Implement legacy status changed interrupt to vhost PMD instead of
>>> using own callback mechanism.
>>>  - Check if we can remove rte_vhost_enable_guest_notification() from
>>> vhost library.
>> So, how about making it __fare__ simple as the first step, to get merged
>> easily, that we don't assume the applications will call any vhost library
>> functions any more, so that we don't need the callback, and we don't need
>> the rte_eth_vhost_portid2vdev(), either. Again, just let it be a fare
>> normal (nothing special) pmd driver.  (UNLESS, there is a real must, which
>> I don't see so far).
>>
>> Tetsuya, what do you think of that then?
>>
>>> Hi Xie,
>>>
>>> Do you know the use cases of rte_vhost_enable_guest_notification()?
> If vhost runs in loop mode, it doesn't need to be notified. You have
> wrapped vhost as the PMD, which is nice for OVS integration. If we
> require that all PMDs could be polled by select/poll, then we could use
> this API for vhost PMD, and wait on the kickfd. For physical nics, we
> could wait on the fd for user space interrupt.

Thanks for clarification.
I will ignore the function for first release of vhost PMD.

Thanks,
Tetsuya


>> Setting the arg to 0 avoids the guest kicking the virtqueue, which
>> is good for performance, and we should keep it.
>>
>> 	--yliu
>>

  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-21  2:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 199+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-31  3:55 [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH v2] Add VHOST PMD Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-08-31  3:55 ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH v2] vhost: " Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-09-23 17:47   ` Loftus, Ciara
2015-10-16  8:40     ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-10-20 14:13       ` Loftus, Ciara
2015-10-21  4:30         ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-10-21 10:09           ` Bruce Richardson
2015-10-16 12:52   ` Bruce Richardson
2015-10-19  1:51     ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-10-19  9:32       ` Loftus, Ciara
2015-10-19  9:45         ` Bruce Richardson
2015-10-19 10:50           ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-10-19 13:26             ` Panu Matilainen
2015-10-19 13:27               ` Richardson, Bruce
2015-10-21  4:35                 ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-10-21  6:25                   ` Panu Matilainen
2015-10-21 10:22                     ` Bruce Richardson
2015-10-22  9:50                       ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-10-27 13:44                         ` Traynor, Kevin
2015-10-28  2:24                           ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-10-22  9:45   ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH v3 0/2] " Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-10-22  9:45     ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH v3 1/2] vhost: Add callback and private data for vhost PMD Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-10-27  6:12       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/3] Add VHOST PMD Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-10-27  6:12         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/3] vhost: Fix wrong handling of virtqueue array index Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-10-27  6:29           ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-10-27  6:33             ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-10-27  6:47           ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-10-27  7:28             ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-10-27  7:34               ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-10-27  6:12         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/3] vhost: Add callback and private data for vhost PMD Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-10-30 17:49           ` Loftus, Ciara
2015-11-02  3:15             ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-10-27  6:12         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/3] vhost: Add VHOST PMD Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-11-02  3:58           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/2] " Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-11-02  3:58             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/2] vhost: Add callback and private data for vhost PMD Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-11-09  5:16               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/2] Add VHOST PMD Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-11-09  5:17                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/2] vhost: Add callback and private data for vhost PMD Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-11-09 18:16                   ` Aaron Conole
2015-11-10  3:13                     ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-11-10  7:16                       ` Panu Matilainen
2015-11-10  9:48                         ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-11-10 10:05                           ` Panu Matilainen
2015-11-10 10:15                             ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-11-09  5:17                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/2] vhost: Add VHOST PMD Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-11-09  6:21                   ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-11-09  6:27                     ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-11-09 22:22                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2015-11-10  3:14                     ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-11-12 12:52                   ` Wang, Zhihong
2015-11-13  3:09                     ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-11-13  3:50                       ` Wang, Zhihong
2015-11-13  4:03                   ` Rich Lane
2015-11-13  4:29                     ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-11-13  5:20                   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/2] " Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-11-13  5:20                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/2] vhost: Add callback and private data for vhost PMD Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-11-17 13:29                       ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-11-19  2:03                         ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-11-19  2:18                           ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-11-19  3:13                             ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-11-19  3:33                               ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-11-19  5:14                                 ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-11-19  5:45                                   ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-11-19  5:58                                     ` Tetsuya Mukawa
     [not found]                                       ` <20151119063137.GJ2326@yliu-dev.sh.intel.com>
2015-11-19  6:37                                         ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-11-13  5:20                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/2] vhost: Add VHOST PMD Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-11-16  1:57                       ` Wang, Zhihong
2015-11-20 11:43                       ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-11-24  2:48                         ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-11-24  3:40                           ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-11-24  3:44                             ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-11-21  0:15                       ` Rich Lane
2015-11-24  4:41                         ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-11-24  9:00                       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/3] " Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-11-24  9:00                         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/3] vhost: Add callback and private data for vhost PMD Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-12-17 11:42                           ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-18  3:15                             ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-12-18  3:36                               ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-12-18  4:15                               ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-18  4:28                                 ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-12-18 18:01                                   ` Rich Lane
2015-12-21  2:10                                     ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-12-22  4:36                                       ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-22  3:41                                     ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-22  4:47                                       ` Rich Lane
2015-12-22  5:47                                         ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-22  9:38                                           ` Rich Lane
2015-12-23  2:44                                             ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-23 22:00                                               ` Thomas Monjalon
2015-12-24  3:51                                                 ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-24  4:07                                                   ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-12-24  3:09                                         ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-12-24  3:54                                           ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-12-24  4:00                                           ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-24  4:23                                             ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-12-24  5:37                                           ` Rich Lane
2015-12-24  7:58                                             ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-12-28 21:59                                               ` Rich Lane
2016-01-06  3:56                                                 ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-01-06  7:38                                                   ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-18 10:03                                 ` Xie, Huawei
2015-12-21  2:10                                   ` Tetsuya Mukawa [this message]
2016-02-02 11:18                           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/2] Add VHOST PMD Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-02-02 19:52                             ` Rich Lane
2016-02-02 11:18                           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/2] ethdev: Add a new event type to notify a queue state changed event Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-02-02 11:18                           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 2/2] vhost: Add VHOST PMD Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-02-02 23:43                             ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-03  2:13                               ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-02-03  7:48                               ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-02-03  9:24                                 ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-03  9:35                                   ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-02-04  7:26                           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 0/2] " Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-02-04  7:26                           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 1/2] ethdev: Add a new event type to notify a queue state changed event Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-02-04  7:26                           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7 2/2] vhost: Add VHOST PMD Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-02-04 11:17                             ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-05  6:28                               ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-02-05  6:35                                 ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-02-05  7:10                                   ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-02-08  9:42                                 ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-09  1:54                                   ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-02-05 11:28                             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 0/2] " Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-02-05 11:28                             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 1/2] ethdev: Add a new event type to notify a queue state changed event Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-02-06  4:57                               ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-02-05 11:28                             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v8 2/2] vhost: Add VHOST PMD Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-02-06  5:12                               ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-02-09  9:38                               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 0/2] " Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-02-24  2:45                                 ` Qiu, Michael
2016-02-24  5:09                                   ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-02-25  7:51                                     ` Qiu, Michael
2016-02-26  4:29                                       ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-02-26  8:35                                         ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-01  2:00                                           ` Qiu, Michael
2016-03-01  2:19                                             ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-02  2:24                                               ` Qiu, Michael
2016-03-04  1:12                                                 ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-02-09  9:38                               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 1/2] ethdev: Add a new event type to notify a queue state changed event Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-04  4:17                                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 0/2] Add VHOST PMD Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-04  4:17                                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 1/2] ethdev: Add a new event type to notify a queue state changed event Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-04  4:17                                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v10 2/2] vhost: Add VHOST PMD Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-04  8:39                                   ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-03-04  9:58                                     ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-07  2:07                                   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 0/2] " Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-07  2:07                                   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 1/2] ethdev: Add a new event type to notify a queue state changed event Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-07  2:07                                   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v11 2/2] vhost: Add VHOST PMD Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-14 12:02                                     ` Bruce Richardson
2016-03-15  5:35                                       ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-15  8:31                                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v12 0/2] " Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-15  8:31                                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v12 1/2] ethdev: Add a new event type to notify a queue state changed event Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-18 13:54                                       ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-03-15  8:31                                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v12 2/2] vhost: Add VHOST PMD Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-18 12:27                                       ` Bruce Richardson
2016-03-18 13:41                                         ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-18 13:52                                           ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-03-18 14:03                                             ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-18 14:13                                               ` Bruce Richardson
2016-03-18 14:21                                                 ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-21  5:41                                         ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-21  5:45                                       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v13 0/2] " Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-21 12:42                                         ` Bruce Richardson
2016-03-21  5:45                                       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v13 1/2] ethdev: Add a new event type to notify a queue state changed event Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-21  8:37                                         ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-03-21  9:24                                           ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-21 11:05                                             ` Bruce Richardson
2016-03-21 13:51                                               ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-21  5:45                                       ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v13 2/2] vhost: Add VHOST PMD Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-21 15:40                                         ` Loftus, Ciara
2016-03-22  1:55                                           ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-22  2:50                                             ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2016-03-22 10:33                                               ` Loftus, Ciara
2016-02-09  9:38                               ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v9 " Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-11-24  9:00                         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/3] " Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-12-18  7:45                           ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-18  9:25                             ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-11-24  9:00                         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 3/3] vhost: Add helper function to convert port id to virtio device pointer Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-12-17 11:47                           ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-18  3:15                             ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-12-18  4:19                               ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-08  1:12                         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/3] Add VHOST PMD Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-12-08  2:03                           ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-08  2:10                             ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-11-13  5:32                     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/2] " Yuanhan Liu
2015-11-13  5:37                       ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-11-13  6:50                       ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-11-17 13:26                         ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-11-19  1:20                           ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-11-09  5:42                 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 " Yuanhan Liu
2015-11-02  3:58             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/2] vhost: " Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-11-06  2:22               ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-11-06  3:54                 ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-11-05  2:17             ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/2] " Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-11-09 22:25           ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/3] vhost: " Stephen Hemminger
2015-11-10  3:27             ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-10-27  7:54         ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/3] " Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-10-30 18:30           ` Thomas Monjalon
2015-11-02  3:15             ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-10-22  9:45     ` [dpdk-dev] [RFC PATCH v3 2/2] vhost: " Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-10-22 12:49       ` Bruce Richardson
2015-10-23  3:48         ` Tetsuya Mukawa
2015-10-29 14:25       ` Xie, Huawei
2015-10-30  1:18         ` Tetsuya Mukawa

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