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From: Panu Matilainen <pmatilai@redhat.com>
To: "Xie, Huawei" <huawei.xie@intel.com>,
	Olivier MATZ <olivier.matz@6wind.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>
Cc: "dprovan@bivio.net" <dprovan@bivio.net>
Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/2] mbuf: provide rte_pktmbuf_alloc_bulk API
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 14:11:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56CD9DFE.4070702@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C37D651A908B024F974696C65296B57B4C5F0655@SHSMSX101.ccr.corp.intel.com>

On 02/23/2016 07:35 AM, Xie, Huawei wrote:
> On 2/22/2016 10:52 PM, Xie, Huawei wrote:
>> On 2/4/2016 1:24 AM, Olivier MATZ wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 01/27/2016 02:56 PM, Panu Matilainen wrote:
>>>> Since rte_pktmbuf_alloc_bulk() is an inline function, it is not part of
>>>> the library ABI and should not be listed in the version map.
>>>>
>>>> I assume its inline for performance reasons, but then you lose the
>>>> benefits of dynamic linking such as ability to fix bugs and/or improve
>>>> itby just updating the library. Since the point of having a bulk API is
>>>> to improve performance by reducing the number of calls required, does it
>>>> really have to be inline? As in, have you actually measured the
>>>> difference between inline and non-inline and decided its worth all the
>>>> downsides?
>>> Agree with Panu. It would be interesting to compare the performance
>>> between inline and non inline to decide whether inlining it or not.
>> Will update after i gathered more data. inline could show obvious
>> performance difference in some cases.
>
> Panu and Oliver:
> I write a simple benchmark. This benchmark run 10M rounds, in each round
> 8 mbufs are allocated through bulk API, and then freed.
> These are the CPU cycles measured(Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2680 0 @
> 2.70GHz, CPU isolated, timer interrupt disabled, rcu offloaded).
> Btw, i have removed some exceptional data, the frequency of which is
> like 1/10. Sometimes observed user usage suddenly disappeared, no clue
> what happened.
>
> With 8 mbufs allocated, there is about 6% performance increase using inline.
[...]
>
> With 16 mbufs allocated, we could still observe obvious performance
> difference, though only 1%-2%
>
[...]
>
> With 32/64 mbufs allocated, the deviation of the data itself would hide
> the performance difference.
> So we prefer using inline for performance.

At least I was more after real-world performance in a real-world 
use-case rather than CPU cycles in a microbenchmark, we know function 
calls have a cost but the benefits tend to outweight the cons.

Inline functions have their place and they're far less evil in project 
internal use, but in library public API they are BAD and should be ... 
well, not banned because there are exceptions to every rule, but highly 
discouraged.

	- Panu -

  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-24 12:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-13 23:35 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/2] provide rte_pktmbuf_alloc_bulk API and call it in vhost dequeue Huawei Xie
2015-12-13 23:35 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/2] mbuf: provide rte_pktmbuf_alloc_bulk API Huawei Xie
2015-12-13 23:35 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/2] vhost: call rte_pktmbuf_alloc_bulk in vhost dequeue Huawei Xie
2015-12-14  1:14 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/2] provide rte_pktmbuf_alloc_bulk API and call it " Huawei Xie
2015-12-14  1:14   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/2] mbuf: provide rte_pktmbuf_alloc_bulk API Huawei Xie
2015-12-17  6:41     ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-17 15:42       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2015-12-18  2:17         ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-18  5:01     ` Stephen Hemminger
2015-12-18  5:21       ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-18  7:10       ` Xie, Huawei
2015-12-18 10:44       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2015-12-18 17:32         ` Stephen Hemminger
2015-12-18 19:27           ` Wiles, Keith
2015-12-21 15:21             ` Xie, Huawei
2015-12-21 17:20               ` Wiles, Keith
2015-12-21 21:30                 ` Thomas Monjalon
2015-12-22  1:58                   ` Xie, Huawei
2015-12-21 22:34               ` Don Provan
2015-12-21 12:25           ` Xie, Huawei
2015-12-14  1:14   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/2] vhost: call rte_pktmbuf_alloc_bulk in vhost dequeue Huawei Xie
2015-12-17  6:41     ` Yuanhan Liu
2015-12-22 16:17   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/2] provide rte_pktmbuf_alloc_bulk API and call it " Huawei Xie
2015-12-22 16:17     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/2] mbuf: provide rte_pktmbuf_alloc_bulk API Huawei Xie
2015-12-23 18:37       ` Stephen Hemminger
2015-12-23 18:49         ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2015-12-24  1:33           ` Xie, Huawei
2015-12-22 16:17     ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/2] vhost: call rte_pktmbuf_alloc_bulk in vhost dequeue Huawei Xie
2015-12-23 11:22       ` linhaifeng
2015-12-23 11:39         ` Xie, Huawei
2015-12-22 23:05 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/2] provide rte_pktmbuf_alloc_bulk API and call it " Huawei Xie
2015-12-22 23:05   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/2] mbuf: provide rte_pktmbuf_alloc_bulk API Huawei Xie
2015-12-22 23:05   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/2] vhost: call rte_pktmbuf_alloc_bulk in vhost dequeue Huawei Xie
2015-12-27 16:38 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 0/2] provide rte_pktmbuf_alloc_bulk API and call it " Huawei Xie
2015-12-27 16:38   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 1/2] mbuf: provide rte_pktmbuf_alloc_bulk API Huawei Xie
2015-12-27 16:38   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 2/2] vhost: call rte_pktmbuf_alloc_bulk in vhost dequeue Huawei Xie
2016-01-26 17:03 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 0/2] provide rte_pktmbuf_alloc_bulk API and call it " Huawei Xie
2016-01-26 17:03   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 1/2] mbuf: provide rte_pktmbuf_alloc_bulk API Huawei Xie
2016-01-27 13:56     ` Panu Matilainen
2016-02-03 17:23       ` Olivier MATZ
2016-02-22 14:49         ` Xie, Huawei
2016-02-23  5:35           ` Xie, Huawei
2016-02-24 12:11             ` Panu Matilainen [this message]
2016-02-24 13:23               ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2016-02-26  7:39                 ` Xie, Huawei
2016-02-26  8:45                   ` Olivier MATZ
2016-02-29 10:51                 ` Panu Matilainen
2016-02-29 16:14                   ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-02-26  8:55             ` Olivier MATZ
2016-02-26  9:07               ` Xie, Huawei
2016-02-26  9:18                 ` Olivier MATZ
2016-01-26 17:03   ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 2/2] vhost: call rte_pktmbuf_alloc_bulk in vhost dequeue Huawei Xie
2016-02-28 12:44 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v7] mbuf: provide rte_pktmbuf_alloc_bulk API Huawei Xie
2016-02-29 16:27   ` Thomas Monjalon

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